Cory Taylor joins our usual hosts for this week's cotillion of a podcast, and the first thing on the agenda is to remind people to get their Noblegarden ducky costume! Transmog and costuming is very important to us. But, then we get into the usual topic du jour when Cory joins the crew: how Heroes of the Storm is primed for a comeback. Cory, as usual, makes a very compelling argument that Blizzard's MOBA is just sleeping on a farm upstate and is definitely making a triumphant return anytime now, for real. Plus, Overwatch 2 Stadium released and the motion sick among us are cautiously optimistic that they won't hurl. It uses a similar perspective to a zoomed out version of Elder Scrolls Oblivion, and we're just going to take a big swig of water before we read the next bullet point here...
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hello everybody and welcome to the Blizzard Watch podcast i'm Matt i'm hosting this thing um it's kind of like
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a catillian but with only three guests and and they're usually the same two guests and then a special surprise get
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so not a very good catillian but hey you know it's I do the best I can uh with me
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this week are my two usual compatriots and our lunacy the captain of the vessel
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the fine ship uh Liz Harper hi Liz hello and the I don't know i guess she'd be
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the cannon guy like the guy in charge of the arsenal or whatever uh Joe Perez um I guess if I wanted to blow up another
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boat up I would ask Joe to shoot it with the guns okay I'm okay with that okay
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and uh with us this week as somebody we've keelhauled along is Corey Taylor corey hi how you doing i'm doing good
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but I thought we were a catillian we kind of turned into a starship or a a regular boat i'm thinking like pirates
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now we're like a catillian with four pirates i I'm not sure like how this
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works uh but then again I've never I've literally never been to a catillian so I don't actually know what they are i mean
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I've never been on a pirate ship either so Oh no i have been on a pirate ship
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funny story actually no you know anyway um let's just jump into things that are
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happening because uh first off we're going to talk about um World of Warcraft here because you know you guys know what
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this podcast is right it it we talk about Blizzard games hey just in case I forgot to mention it
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uh if you were listening to the pre-show you'd understand why the four of us might be a little off right now but we'll get to that um Noble Gardens
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started yesterday as we're recording ends next week um Monday which is I
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believe it's the 28th it's a It's a very short week i It's a very short event I should say so if you want to get
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yourself a duck costume you have a week and you've already missed a couple of days if by the time we record this every
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time we we put this on the site if you're listening to it you know recorded then you have even less time you're like
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it'll be Thursday or Friday so you'll be like "Oh if you want a duck you've got to go get your duck." Yeah whenever you
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hear this do it now also you got six years to collect all six kinds of duck
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yeah if you you didn't especially if you missed a month like a year or two you're even further behind yeah if you if you
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skip this year then you have you know that's an extra year you have to do this event to get every color of duck
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disguise which I mean I can't explain to you why that's good but but it is um
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next up we should mention that again since as we're recording this patch 11.1.5 has just released uh with
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Nightfall and a whole bunch of stuff we've talked about it kind of a few times now so I don't think we need to
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like really dig too hard into it but I should mention that the Great Vault is broken um so how is this working it's
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giving you multiples of the same items oh so the great vault is not supposed to give you you know five copies of the
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same item i got some bad news for the devs it can this this week it can and
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uh probably the big problem is if you are hit with this Blizzard is working on fixing this but if you have this problem
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and you have an entire row of the great vault which is the same thing which is possible they can't fix it let's let's
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it's just let's ask a clarifying question here um so when you say same thing you mean same exact thing same
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exact eye level same exact level of upgrade every like the exact identical
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item uh let me The reason I ask is because I have absolutely before this
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week gotten multiples of the same item on multiple rows of my my my box um I
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believe it is same item same item level identical we had someone in our guild
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this afternoon got three of the same cloak at the same item level filling out
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the whole dungeon tier in their vault with the same cloak okay which is not
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that exciting no okay a certain Janicequa so yeah I don't know if
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waiting to do your great vault will help cuz I don't know if the second you log on it's already determined does I think
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it generates loot when you click on it also we don't have an ETA on this being fixed so you might want to wait a couple
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days and see if it's fixed but then again if you're listening to this recorded maybe you don't have a lot of time you may just want to jump on it and
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deal with it maybe you want the cloak i don't know but that is a little frustrating i've also heard that the
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Nightfall event is not entirely working hopefully by the time you're listening to this it has smoothed out usually
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patch day is a little rough and yes that is true also yeah I I did think the p
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the roll out today went pretty well the servers came up early and you could you
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know you could log on you could get into the game you could do your stuff but it sounds like Nightfall may not be 100%
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yet hopefully by the time you're listening to this 100% and you can go uh kill kill more spiders in Hallow cuz we
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we love killing spiders that's the expansion i'll be happy if you have arachnophobia
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in which case you can turn them into crabs killing crabs yes we also enjoy killing crabs that is part of the
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expansion too i'll be happy if uh whatever add-on is causing my add-on explosion that happened before uh we
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recorded to be fixed cuz I I don't know which one it is but it only happens when I'm dragon
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riding and it's very annoying all right um one thing I can mention also if you
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are for some reason just getting into Nightfall and you decided hey I'd like to switch to a new main or if you're
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just playing at your own pace and you hadn't m hit max level yet or what have you uh the Winds of Mysterious Fortune
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event starts today as we're recording and will be lasting until May 20th so you got a bit more time on that it's not
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a duck costume it's an XP boost um one of those is more important to limit than
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the others yes you you don't want to let people just get all the duck costumes in the first year because then they'll be
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happy you don't you know we don't want to let you be happy i mean you know too not too happy you can be happy just
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happy enough happy enough that you come back for more happiness later yes rather than just overdosing you want duck
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goodness we're going to give you like a trickle it's gonna be a trickle a sixyear trickle there's a joke in there
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about duck duck go or duck duck goose i'll leave it for smarter people than me to figure out yeah we'll workshop it
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later i do I do want to add something that I did not include on the list one
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small but very helpful thing that is coming with this patch is a couple of reputation changes your Shadowlands
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reputations are all Warbandwide as of now right now now that is
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reputation not the renown yeah not the four big guys yeah not the four biggies
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still if you want that you got to go get it individually per character but all of the Shadowlands reputations including
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like Venari and all of that so if you were just really jonesing for like a
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Cora armor set but you've done it on another character you're just you've got you've got the reputation now across all
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of your characters to go in and do that i don't really know why anyone would want to go back to the mall but it has
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been a few years maybe maybe the mall looks appealing now um I wish I remember what guild I was in at the time because
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I had a whole song I used to sing when we did the mall it's basically just let's go to the mall
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but uh I do want to jump player it was always fine going to the mall because I could just go around and travel for him
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and if something got too hairy I just disappeared it was great okay but really quickly I want to mention the the buff
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for the uh the mysterious winds because you know winds of mysterious fortune it's not just an XP boost um it's also
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reputation buff um it gives you 20% experience bonus which you can actually
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get items that will boost it to 30% like potions and so forth and then the experience boost is also included and
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that's a this one got me i didn't know this the dragon flight factions get a 200% experience boost and the war within
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faction reputation yeah yes reputation boost and the War Within factions get a 100% bonus so in including the you know
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that that's kind of cool like I I had not heard that so if you if you if you had missed out on that expansion or you
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like me were lazy and never finished I I never finished Niffan Reputation or uh
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Dream Wharton Reputation so maybe maybe I could go back and do that maybe maybe
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maybe but you but you know we'll see what happens and but one thing to note about that is that goblins the new uh
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goblin cartel factions not included in that reputation bonus
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yeah but there is a change that will make it a little easier which is that the cartels the individual cartels not
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the big undermined faction their reputation has been doubled the
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reputation you get from doing uh rare kills and let me scrolling down to the
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place um totally lost this uh so reputation for the individual cartels
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for world quests weekly quests side gigs and rares is all doubled so if you're
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trying to get a particular cartel up to max to get their unique mount color or
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transmog color it's going to be a little easier to do that i don't I don't think I have the patience to get all of the
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goblin cartels to max rep so I I may not take advantage of it but if you were
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dying for some of those rewards going to be easier to get them okay um that's really cool uh let's also now jump
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quickly to the Heroes of the Storm patch because Cory is sitting right here and I don't want it to vibrate through the floor uh tell us about the new patch for
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Heroes of the Storm Corey and and keep your delusion that it's coming back alive it's coming back any day now i
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swear in fact PC Gamer just ran an article saying you know hey guys here's
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the storm is still going and for a game in maintenance mode it's surprisingly alive yeah I saw that i saw that article
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because my my my hopemium is high exa exactly so any day now I'm sure we're
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going to get that announcement they wouldn't say they wouldn't make us wait until 2026 Blizzcon for that i'm sure um
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we got a new patch it's a lot like the other ones there's some minor bug fixes and stuff they are buffing Anna
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everyone's favorite Overwatch grandma to improve her biotic grenade making it a
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little bit easier for her to heal herself and hurt enemies and if you're bad at aiming especially if they are
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buffing or they're changing Imperious's um stabby thy uh spear strike to be a
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little bit easier to use although it does less damage for targets past the first one which is fine because you know
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it was really powerful if you got the team that was dumb enough to line up all five in a row for you and everyone's
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favorite dryad Lunara is getting extra vines on her ultimate if you upgrade it
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at max level so it's it's the same stuff we've been seeing where there's been some tweaks designed to bring heroes
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that are under or overperforming more in line with each other and to fix things just like in a real live game
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balance-wise that make everyone have a better time playing so uh that's currently on the PTR and it will
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probably go live in a week or two weeks the biggest thing is that master and
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grandmaster players playing in the ranked mode the storm league can now only party up in groups of two so that
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you can't just find five gods of gaming and put them all on the same team and then get a bunch of puged randos to
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steamroll over two people max which is good for the high-end health of people
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playing just by themselves and will never affect me in the slightest because I don't think I ever climbed out of
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whatever's just above gold now if I I wanted to ask you quickly uh this is just on Game Pass Ultimate and Game Pass
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PC right it's not available for Xbox right yes it is not available for Xbox the Game Pass tie-in that came out a
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couple weeks ago now is just for the PC Game Pass users and that is it gives you
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a pack of 30 heroes so that you have a bigger starting pool to go from once you're starting the game which is great
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because you want everyone loves choice and what if you really want to play as someone that isn't Jim Rener yeah and
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it's a smart way to like that's how League of Legends got their start like I I always love like pointing that out
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where people would League of Legends was always a free game but you could go to like you know GameStop Walmart Target
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whatever and spend $10 and get uh a a code that unlocked like 30 champions and
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a bunch of RP and stuff like that to get you into the game system um doing it through Game Pass like that unlocking it
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is smart especially you know if you're planning on bringing the game back and you want to have a player base uh Mhm
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like I mean I know that we joke about the the Cory and I like really being
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honed in on the games coming back it really feels like they're gearing up for something like that or they're gearing
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up because they maybe the new corporate overlords understood what Blizzard slept on um because it was it was really
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really good it was a lot of fun and it was unique in terms of MOBAs uh in how
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it presented its gameplay loop and made it way more accessible than a lot of the others and I wouldn't be surprised if
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they're looking for ways to uh generate more players or you know maybe flirt
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with the idea of getting players involved into it that have never tried it before uh and maybe they're using it
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as a proof of concept i mean for all we know though it could also get resurrected as a mobile game which honestly I wouldn't even care like
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uh but it is interesting to see again consistent patches constant tweaks and
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updates for again for a game that's supposed to be in maintenance mode i It's just a matter of time before I feel
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like we hear about "By the way we're adding a new champion right?" like it just feels like that's going to be the
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next step or or by the way here's a new map uh or something that we've been quietly working on in the background it
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just it's got that that feel to it the host janitor is a is concept artist in his fair time and oh boy has he got a
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doozy for you kind of thing good good heroes of the storm hunting
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exactly yeah he's wicked smart and how you like them apples sorry go
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ahead Liz blizzard has been really consistent about rolling out monthly patches for
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Heroes of the Storm and these are not insignificant tiny little bug fix brushing off patches they're significant
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balance patches and it's very interesting it's interesting i think they have to be doing something here
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they they have to be i mean if nothing else they got to make sure that it's viable for Game Pass um which in and of
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itself isn't a ton of of new stuff but it is something so I I do think that
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there's at least some interest then again I also think there's interest in Starcraft so we'll see they put
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Starcraft on Game Pass and it definitely feels like they're sort of like inching their way towards things it could be
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both i remember too that they just put that Star the Starcraft heroes in
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Hearthstone and everyone loved that that was a huge go like a huge win everyone
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was like "Yeah this is great i love having Carrian as a usable character in my Hearthstone games because that was
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fun." So I think that there's there's so much goodwill around the Starcraft brand that it's it makes no sense for it to
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just stay out there on the shelf or behind glass kind of thing that like they should be doing something with it
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well I think we all pretty much agree on that um do you guys have anything else you want to say about it before we move on to something else no what is dead may
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never die okay thank you lovecraft um okay we should talk about
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Hearthstone since we just talked about Hearthstone um grounds 10 announced that's coming on April 29th uh since I
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don't play a ton of Hearthstone I'm turning to Liz and possibly Corey i don't know if you play it i haven't played in a minute but yeah liz what do
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you want to tell us about this so we have someone telling us about this uh yes battleground season 10 Second Nature
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is launching later this month and it's uh it's a little Shadowlands themed with
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uh it just has that vibe i mean really with a new Hearthstone season Hearthstone battleground season I should
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clarify we're getting a couple of new heroes we're getting the minion pool refreshed and a new set of cosmetics and
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a new battle pass because every every game we play has to have a battle pass
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um but with this uh with this new season we are getting uh four heroes forest
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Lord Sinarius and my personal favorite and probably your personal favorite too
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Buttons buttons is coming to Hearthstone and uh it's always nice to get a new new
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Battleground season it is they throw them out regularly so it's not a surprise that one is coming out now
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they're on a really pretty pretty strict schedule but every time you get a new
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season it really shakes up the meta and it it keeps it fresh so we've got two new heroes there are going to be 75 new
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minions or returning minions coming to the game we are seeing the return of
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trinkets which are items that you will draft during the game and now I'm now I'm saying draft because I was talking
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about blueprints earlier in the pre-show um just little bonus items which will
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change up how you play the game and it is arriving on April 29th april 29th
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everything Blizzard does happens at the same time the it's it's feast or famine over here folks april 29th new
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Hearthstone Battleground season you can go in and play buttons you will have a whole new battle pass rewards to work
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through and a ton of new minions as they adjust the minion pool again so another
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thing happening with the minion pool is that we are getting new frames for our minions which you know if you play
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standard ranked Hearthstone every class has their own colored border you know so
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a mage card is blue a rogue card is black and they're easy to identify at a
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glance but battlegrounds never had that but now it is picking up that theme so
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different minion types will have different card borders so again you can
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identify them at a glance and if they're a dual CL a dual minion type they will
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have a dual uh border with one color on one side and one color on another so for
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example elementals have a blue border that is like the mage border and an
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elemental like land lover which is an elemental pilot elemental Pirate that's
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the word you don't hear every day has a blue border on one side and a black
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border on the other side for pirate so that'll make it a lot easier to identify
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minions at a glance i know me being an idiot and maybe playing a little faster
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than I should maybe I should play a little more thoughtfully sometimes I'll grab a minion and I'm like "Oh yeah okay here's an elemental i've got an
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elemental board i'll grab this." And it turns Oh wait that's actually I should not have grabbed that that's not an
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elemental so it's it's nice it's a tiny change but it's nice visual improvement so everything is good it's always nice
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to have the meta shakeup and have some new gameplay going on i'm looking forward to it okay um since I have no
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idea what I missed um I'm just going to assume you guys are done and move on to
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the very confusing mixed up scary world of Diablo I's new battle pass system uh
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does anybody here actually understand it before we start going into this more because Liz and I talked about it liz
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and I talked about it and Liz do you understand it do you understand what's happening i Okay I'm going to I'm going
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to try I'm going to try this out so starting with the next season that's season 8 i think we're in season eight
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right no one's contradicting me so I think I'm I think I'm correct season i think you're right no eight oh we're
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eight i'm looking at the thing yeah yeah no we're in seven season 8 is file you wrote it down wrong that's the problem
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so Diablo 4 season 8 starts on April 29th it is totally the old battle pass
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system gone gone for good and it's being replaced with a new system called
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reoquaries which I think is a little unnecessarily complicated some of the
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stuff that was on the battle pass is being moved to the season journey most notably the season blessings which you
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know as you progress through the battle pass you would unlock season blessings which would give you unique buffs during
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the season to improve your power but that was always it always felt a little weird to be on the battle pass because
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the battle pass was largely a paid system of rewards i think it's going to
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work it's going to feel better being part of the season journey even if it's kind of the same thing you're just
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unlocking it the more you play but now it's in the season journey not on the battle pass and uh the relic system kind
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of splits up the battle pass in different ways so instead of buying a one big huge battle pass you could buy
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different parts of the battle pass and I keep saying battle pass but it's now the
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reoquaryy well no the relicquary is the individual pieces of it it's still a battle pass yeah oh gosh this just kind
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of breaks my head it's strange i The battle pass could it could use some
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shaking up so you could buy this whole thing or you can say "Man I just want those transmog appearances i don't want
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to deal with all this other stuff and just buy that portion of the battle pass oh I just want these weapons i'm just
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going to buy this part of the battle pass." And of course everything still costs platinum and if you just want this
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or just want that you can pay a certain amount of platinum to specifically unlock one part or the other or you can
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buy the whole battle pass and get all of them it'll it'll have a similar progression system where you know you
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play the game you earn reputation on the battle pass and you will eventually unlock the rewards by playing I'm pretty
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sure so it's it's the same and different it gives you a a few more options about the rewards you want to chase i I know
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for my part it's like I just don't care about emotes in Diablo i I don't care
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about any of that and it's I keep unlocking emotes every season and like I
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just I mean occasionally I like one emote but J they're not like really my
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part of the game either it's like oh it's a it's a new battle pass here and I just unlocked a new rogue
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emote okay i don't usually play rogues and my whole selection of players on
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this in this game is like eight necromancers but sure I just I'm really
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excited to get this rogue emote thanks guys it's the um it's a thumbs up emoji
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to someone's big long wall of text in your group chat you're you're so you're so not even
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underwhelmed you're just wellelmed yes i mainly iron i ironically enough
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whelm and overwhelm mean the exact same thing oh man well then you are underwhelmed yeah it's one of those
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things that always annoyed me is that you know to be wellelmed is to be overwhelmed you you're dragged underneath the water and you know
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drowned that's what it is um and the only reason I know this is because of Dungeons and Dragons m um because
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there's a module called the uh um I want to say black you know white plume mountain yes white plume mountain and in
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it there's three magical items uh wave and black razor wellm is
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basically just you know a big hammer that you know you use it and people get like a big wave of earth comes up and
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just buries people cuz that's what is um and yes that's how I know that it's
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Dungeons and Dragons fault and I'm never able to like get it out of my head like
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every time someone says you know what is over you know overwhelmed or underwhelmed like ah wellming is
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underwhelmed shut up Robin from you know Young Justice being whelmed is the same
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thing as being overwhelmed um anyway so yeah that's
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that's what's going on with this battle pass go ahead Liz i want to hear more of it i believe you will be able to instead
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of it's like oh you know I really want this thing at the very end of the battle pass that's all I want i've got to play
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all the way to the end i believe if I'm understanding this correctly you will be able to choose which parts of the battle
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pass you want to claim first so it's like oh I really want this reward i'm going to get this first there is also a
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really a really crazy armor set on this battle pass which I don't How would you
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explain this Matt well I think Joe actually said it perfectly on the pre-show so Joe I forgot what I said he
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said it was a Gver of the Diablo universe if you know the Gver suits um
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they're skintight and disturbingly HR Geigeresque and this is very much that
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but Diablo so it's got flaming claws and weird bits just floating off in weird
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directions and yeah it's HR it's HR Gigger's version of a Power Ranger it's also very much like an evoker like if
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you took a an evoker from World of Warcraft and you diablified it and you made it into a set of armor that's what
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I'm looking at right now you've got the dragon claws on the feet you've got pointy things on your hands it's got a
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set of wings if you buy the premium battle pass and it's got big old horns on the top of your head it's like you
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skinned in war in a vulker so yay there that's very Diablo what's this weird new monster skin it wear it like we didn't
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even like hesitate you thought we could have at least asked it if we you know no we just did it sanctuary is messed up
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come on so yes the current season is ending and the new one is beginning on
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April 29th so there's actually only a small amount of time to finish earning your seasonal rewards which I have not
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finished doing because I just I ran out of steam and enthusiasm and I don't know if I'm going to get back in the next
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week you could do it Liz imagine how satisfied you'll be with that extra emote that you haven't unlocked yet i I
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could do it but do I want to is the question is it's an investment of time
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which is precious and energy which I have none of see Liz Liz takes Jurassic Park to heart she doesn't get so busy
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figuring out whether or not she can that she doesn't know if she should you know she knows should I should I do this or
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should I do literally anything else with my time they just play the game randomly and enjoy it or play the game to a rigid
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you know timetable and not enjoy it i I I might just enjoy it i'm weird except
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Except I have to finish the season journey if I want the raven pet and the the last I I'm on the last chapter but
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the last chapter is actually really hard yeah there is always that i I ran out of
28:15
steam so we'll we'll see we'll see if I finish all righty uh I think next up we
28:20
have Overwatch to talk about or Overwatch 2 I'm sorry um every so often I'm like why did they even bother to
28:27
make it a second game i come on oh yeah that's that's a question so we got
28:32
season 16 starting on April 22nd which I believe is today yep that is today it is
28:37
now live yeah as we're recording is today um Freya the new hero who I've
28:43
heard described as a di a demon hunter from Diablo III in coming from Attack on
28:49
Titan so you know the whole jumping around being vertical and shooting people with with you know arrows i don't
28:56
think she has a sword though um no engaged hand crossbow thing that's why that's where the Diablo comparison comes
29:03
in very I think very cool aesthetically and I did like the video that they put out where we got to hear the voice actor
29:09
who I thought was doing a really good job with the character um it's a shame we don't get big cinematics anymore
29:17
you know but regardless um also Stadium is out which is the I don't I still it
29:24
it's not like you don't get to watch it it doesn't have observer mode does it like it's just you go into a stadium and
29:30
your character is now like third person instead of first person is that accurate it's it's a different gameplay mode it
29:37
is third person and there are a number of powers that you can unlock so instead of just okay I'm this Overwatch
29:44
character it's as you advance in stadium you will be able to customize your character and unlock different powers
29:52
upgrade different powers instead of just being kind of standard Overwatch so it's
29:57
it's a twist it's Overwatch with a twist it really does feel like they are taking some features from the old PvP mode PvE
30:07
mode which was going to have a whole talent and advancement system and they're kind of trying to work it in to
30:15
Overwatch's PvPon gameplay it feel the the new mode feels very much like CSGO
30:23
or Valerant where you are you're playing around and then you're changing up your
30:28
strategy on the fly or you're buying for the next round as you as you go through
30:33
it and uh which makes sense because those are both pretty popular and longunning team-based shootery kind of
30:40
games like Overwatch and it's uh it's a good thing for Blizzard to get their to dip their toes into to keep interest in
30:47
Overwatch high and it lets them give Zarya an ability that gives lots of bubbles to everyone and that's always
30:53
the best ability yeah i mean I just think it's interesting to Oh go ahead Liz joe I'm sorry i was going to say I'm
30:58
definitely not Liz uh yeah I don't know how like I think it's cool that they're
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trying to like mix things up but I I don't know how popular it's going to be
31:10
i'm going to be really interested to see player engagement numbers on it um because one of the things that I think
31:15
made Overwatch one very popular was things were known quantities right like
31:22
you could you're switching your strategy on the fly with switching your comp but each one you knew what you were doing in
31:28
this one you know there may be an element of you know kind of customizing
31:34
your character i can I can kind of see that but it's still multiplayer it's still 5v5 and I think that might turn
31:42
some people off versus had this had been what it originally was uh intended to be
31:47
which was a PVE mode so I'm I'm really curious to see what engagement's going
31:52
to be like with this fair point i don't you know can't pretend I know um quite
31:57
frankly it's I I can play third person without getting motion sick as much um I
32:04
don't know how it is for other people but for me first person is the perspective that makes me very motion
32:09
sick it's one of the reasons that despite my love for cyberpunk I have to stop playing it every so often or I'm
32:16
just going to be like you know nauseous and and migrainy for extended periods um
32:22
whereas games like Balders's Gate or Diablo or um whatever I'm playing any
32:27
you know Rogue Dread or what have you when they're since they're third person and relatively pulled out I have no
32:33
problem playing those um I'm really interested in seeing if Overwatch
32:39
Stadium is something I could actually play i like if I if I yeah if I can play
32:44
that um then then it's you know I could see myself doing so just because I've always liked the feel of Overwatch um
32:52
but I I couldn't play it um and far as I know Rivals is first person rivals is
32:58
first person yeah and that's that's been the big reason I haven't tried to play Rivals because I mean as much as as much
33:04
as I you know love Marvel characters and would be totally okay you know playing a game where I played as one of them I I
33:10
don't want to make myself nauseous i have this real thing where I just don't want to make myself sick i have a real
33:16
problem with Bethesda games a lot of the time cuz you know people are like "You got to play it in first person." Like I
33:21
can't i don't I don't think you understand guys so for just as an accessibility thing uh the thing where
33:27
stadium lets you play in a more third person where the characters you're not the characters are not providing you
33:32
their perspective that's something I'm interested in but that's a niche thing i know that for a lot of people it isn't
33:38
an issue so but uh that covers our our talk on Overwatch unless anyone has
33:44
anything else they want to say about Overwatch i'm good liz no you you okay
33:49
Corey it remains a game that exists and I haven't really played in a long time yeah all right we have other games we
33:57
want to talk about uh first off the Switch 2 pre-orders are now started um
34:02
they're going to start on the 24th my bad but at least we now know when they are uh the whole US and Canada were
34:07
having problems for reasons I will not go into uh but regardless uh now we know
34:13
they're going to be on the 24th in US and Canada so yeah if you want to get a a Switch 2 you can do that now you can
34:21
Well you can't actually get the Switch 2 it's a pre-order um but at least Yeah i
34:28
mean I'd like to get one but I don't think the money is going to be there but regardless I'm still think it's cool that that they're coming out um I don't
34:35
know how interested guys are you guys are in talking about The Elder Scrolls Oblivion remaster um it's out they
34:42
announced it and then released it on the same day that it sure was something yeah
34:48
i I like what I mean they announced it like I remember like there were rumors
34:53
about it for like a like a week before and then boom they're like yeah here it
34:59
is what uh so any I'm going to just go around the circle here uh Joe do you
35:04
have any opinion on this i my only opinion is not a positive one
35:10
and don't get me wrong I I loved Oblivion but I'm kind of over the whole
35:16
let's keep remaking games that we already have thing like Oblivion was great do I need an updated version of it
35:23
no uh the same thing like do I need to be able to play Skyrim on my bloody toaster no but yet here we are are you
35:30
sure i'm absolutely sure but like But toasters are for Doom only not Skyrim
35:36
exactly but it even with Doom like like stuff like that like when games do that it it if it's frequent enough it it it
35:44
bothers me in this particular one i understand that this is the first time it's been remastered and people are
35:49
going to tell me to to calm down about it but it's like but that's what they do right that's that's basically what
35:54
they've been doing for years now and I would much rather see the next Elder
36:00
Scrolls game be further along than you know an an update on that than hey we
36:07
need money let's go to the Oblivion well right like that cuz that's what it feels like to me it feels like hey we need
36:12
some cash let's go with something that we know people love um and I'm not saying I'm not trying to undermine like the amount of work that they put into it
36:18
it's just that's what it feels like to me so I for anybody who's excited about
36:24
it I'm happy for you i am definitely not excited for it so I'll be skipping this cory uh two things one the best response
36:33
that I've seen today has been a meme where it's Phamir from Lord of the Rings bursting into the hall and being
36:39
"Father," and saying "Father I have brought you a remake of Oblivion." And then it's of course Denithor looking at
36:45
him and saying well Boramir would have brought me a remake of Mororrowind because that that Morowind is the weird
36:52
one like Oblivion is just kind of from what I remember of the two Oblivion is
36:58
just kind of a standard kind of fantasy game borin had some weird stuff going on in a way that Oblivion didn't and I they
37:06
probably didn't fix the biggest issue in Oblivion which it would be re-recording all the voice lines in a non in a in a
37:12
way that makes sense and not doing them all alphabetically for some reason because that's what you want your actors
37:17
to do is to read their lines in alphabetical order mhm so
37:22
I guess yeah all right liz you got anything uh well I will say that Todd
37:27
Howard first mentioned working on Elder Scrolls 6 in
37:33
2016 so you know you know it's going to be a long time before you get Elder Scrolls 6 but also it was 2016 and I
37:42
know it's tough it's tough to be excited for the next thing and the exciting
37:49
announcement you get is a remaster a remaster of an old thing that you've played and played and it's cool it's
37:57
cool that it's here and that they've gone in and remade this classic world but but also it's like okay where's my
38:05
Elder Scrolls 6 so you don't want to be too hard on it we had to get Starfield
38:10
out of the way too yes well they did not because I love Starfield and I'm not
38:15
doing this we're not doing the swag on Starfield thing no I'm not slagging on i'm just They They said that the first
38:21
thing that they were like when they announced that that 6second sizzle tree teaser of Elder Scrolls 6 that they were
38:28
going to work on Starfield that they had a sci-fi thing coming first yeah so yeah Cory is correct they did say that
38:35
Starfield was going to come before Elder Scrolls 6 starfield is now out um I feel
38:41
like this is a bit of a problem with the player expectations maybe like because
38:47
they talked about working on Elder Scrolls 6 so long ago we're sitting here
38:53
looking at Elder Scrolls 4 and being like "Well this is fine why can't you tell us something about Elder Scrolls 6
39:00
it's been 9 years Todd." But this is fine this is This is fine and that's
39:06
that's the problem that's the problem it's fine but I'm not excited about it
39:12
yeah I could definitely see that what's really weird to me is first off that
39:18
they announced it and released it the same day that's pretty great actually very rarely do you ever see that that's
39:25
just wow i think it was I I mean there's like a I think I can remember there's like a really important rhythm action
39:32
game whose name I'm totally forgetting that did this um by the same studio that that did Evil Within um may they rest in
39:39
peace uh but also they put in a Dark Souls like combat system for for
39:45
Oblivion what why why did you do that that's like the last thing I can think
39:53
anybody who likes a Bethesda game is going to want is to turn it into Dark
39:58
Souls i haven't gotten to play it yet but they straight up that's what they said in the announcement that it's got a
40:04
Dark Souls it's a I'm like what why why why why would you do that like that's
40:11
just weird nobody wants a remaster that fundamentally changes the gameplay do they is that Is that what people want
40:17
remasters for to just completely change the way the game plays i I feel confused
40:22
by this sometimes yes i mean and part of that is probably informed by the success
40:27
of Final Fantasy 7 remaster yeah but that thing is not a remake i mean it's a remake not a remaster yeah sorry yeah
40:35
it's not a remaster sorry the the point I'm trying to make is like people have sort of when you hear remaster there's
40:42
this weird expectation that it is a remake like I don't know when it started but it's definitely something I've
40:48
noticed so I don't know i again I've already said my piece on it but I'm just
40:54
going to move on yeah I haven't heard they were making
40:59
such dra drastic changes like that it's I if if you want to pick up on this if
41:04
this is your thing it's going to include all the original expansion all the expansions to the game it has new
41:11
atmospheric effects and improved lighting so better graphics that's kind of expected you can now sprint because
41:19
it's 2025 and you should be able to run around in a video game that's just a
41:25
thing uh different races now have appropriate audio for their voices lip
41:31
syncing is improved it would be because that's also it's 2025 um although games
41:37
never gonna actually improve lip syncing they just make it differently weird like that's the thing about it can get it can
41:44
get better i think it can get better there's always room for improvement especially when you're looking at a game
41:49
that is quite a few years old you can you can make it better um I still want
41:56
to see if like if they've done any kind of audio remastering because I mean Patrick Stewart sounded really weird uh
42:04
when I first played Oblivion but yeah I think we should talk about something else because we have been talking about Oblivion for a bit here and there are
42:10
other things to talk about um but yeah go ahead Liz i heard you were about to say something depatrick Sword sounds
42:16
really good in the remaster trailer so that's that's what I got uh all right um we should mention really quickly that
42:22
Thunderfolk uh the Dream Haven published uh Secret Door um developed game it's
42:29
releasing on the 23rd it's been in I I know it's had access you could download
42:34
it if you were get doing the the weird streaming thing uh I forget whose weird
42:40
streaming thing it was but I remember it was like was it Epic Games or something whose weird streaming thing were they on
42:45
i I don't know okay well we'll look that up at some point uh but regardless it's out tomorrow i've played a little of it
42:52
because I played it on the weird streaming thing and I liked it i think it's fun uh it's kind of like it's kind
42:58
of a combination of other games I've played it when Liz was describing uh you know Blueprints uh it was feeling a
43:07
little bit like the way Sunfolk plays but not quite not Not the the part where you're in and out of the house not so
43:12
much but the weird narrative aspect uh really is kind of there it's a It's a a
43:18
fun game um I liked it but I didn't play it very much so we'll see how if it's sustainable for over the long term i I'm
43:25
also fully aware that I'm never going to be doing Couch Co-op like I at most my wife and I might play it together i am
43:31
certainly not going to have friends come over to like party at my house the very idea terrifies and andors me so yeah no
43:38
but regardless and it has it has kind of an odd mechanic the thing that I don't understand how smooth this will feel is
43:45
you're going to be playing it like on a console but you're also going to be sitting there and like using your phone
43:51
as a controller yeah phone or tablet yeah it seems it's an unusual combination and
43:58
it could be one of those things that it's like "Wow why has no one ever done this before this works great." Or it
44:04
could be one of those things that it's like "This feels awkward i can't decide which one it's going to be." Yeah is
44:10
this going to be like a brand new thing that seems really amazing and cool or is it going to be Yeah yeah next year every
44:17
game is like oh you can control the game with your phone i don't know i don't know or is it going to be the connect
44:22
you know who knows it is a I should just say upfront it is
44:28
a tactical RPG adventure where you can play adorable little animal characters
44:34
or a polar bear who is an animal character who I don't know if I would call adorable i don't know if you'd want
44:40
to say that to his face though i would definitely say it to his face he's a little squishy polar bear guy he is also
44:46
carrying a hammer that is as that is as big as he is so it's a it's a little intimidating i don't know i feel like
44:53
he's I feel like he's perfectly chromulent he's he's fine but um so this one will be it'll be
45:00
interesting to see i think I'll probably I'm not going to buy it day one but I'd be I'm going to watch some people stream
45:06
it and see what I think about the game play yeah I definitely think it is going to be something that I I spend money on
45:12
later but I do think I'm going to pick it up at some point also if you hear tactical RPG and you're like sweating
45:18
because XCOM is coming to you it's not XCOM it's more like Mario versus Rabbids
45:23
in terms of difficulty here so don't don't get too upset um but we should also mention because it's the name is
45:29
Creepy Redneck Dinosaur Mansion 3 it comes out today as as we're recording i had not heard of this but the very fact
45:36
that it's redneck Dinosaur Mansion creepy redneck Dinosaur Mansion 3 um has
45:41
my attention so there you go i asked I asked Anna to explain this to me and she
45:47
did not just I think we're just leaving it at the name that this is this is on
45:52
the list of new games that we're paying attention to i cannot describe it i do not know what is happening here yeah
45:58
looking at it right now it looks a little bit like a builder and it's also got quite frankly it's got um Bejeweled
46:05
as a major mechanic in it like I'm literally watching them play Bejeweled to make dinosaurs i I I don't I don't
46:12
know what else to say about this subject but that's that's there you're playing Bejeweled as part of the process to make
46:18
dinosaurs in a weird old mansion i I guess that's that's something that we needed cuz Okay the game the game
46:26
description calls it a match three Metroid vania or Metroid vania
46:34
so how many Metroid Vania jokes are we going to have in this show
46:39
that's our third one that's We could have a fourth one that's only what I have left we could have a fourth Metroid Vania
46:45
joke but we haven't unlocked the punch line to go back three hours ago and unlock that yeah so yeah that's
46:51
happening i'm also going to mention I wrote this on the thing myself because I'm curious uh Alcat when are you
46:58
putting out the second DLC for Rogue Trader it's you had it like last year you were going to come out then you said
47:05
spring 2025 it's April spring is one more month and you have no date
47:11
announced for this game i need to know when it's coming i I I need this i had
47:16
no idea I was gonna like this game um one of the weird things about it and I I do don't want to spend too much time on
47:22
it because we have other things to do like you know Liz actually has to do say business but I will say that one of the
47:28
things I like about it is that it does something a lot of games don't do in
47:33
that it is fully aware of how messed up Warhammer 40k is like it is aware that
47:40
the Imperium of Man is a horrible thing like you ever know some people like
47:45
really like Judge Dread unironically they think he's a good dude and they want to be like him and the the
47:52
stories are actually all about how terrible he is and how terrible Mega City 1 is that's to me what Warhammer
47:58
40k has always had like underneath the surface when the orcs are probably the most likable people you're going to run
48:04
into in a in a setting i feel like that's important um the Imperium of Man
48:10
is awful like you are flying around oh yeah absolutely that that's part of the
48:16
story you're you're supposed to come away from it going "Wow." Okay um and and this this game does a really good
48:22
job like you are at one point I caught myself realizing oh hey I'm I'm
48:28
basically uh Bill Gates if he had the entire you know company you know
48:33
population of Microsoft's employees trapped on a boat with him and and you know I was constantly fighting monsters
48:40
and and they were dying and and they had no say in whether or not they could get
48:45
off the boat in fact if they tried I'd have them killed for heresy like wow I'm
48:51
a terrible person and it it's it's really it's one of those games that really does a great job of of conveying
48:58
that while still being fun to play which is very hard it's very hard to feel like a monster and still be you know it's fun
49:04
to play it's like yay so yeah I I just wanted to say where's my where's my DLC now um I will turn it over to Liz
49:11
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yes thank you much uh ordinarily I'd say "Oh we're at time but we had like a several minute
52:43
kurfuffle in the middle of recording." So I'm going to try and do at least one email here and I mean this question is
52:49
one that's been coming back for forever cuz we never got around to it so I'm going to do it right now this one is
52:55
from Maxia Blastrig of the Four Realms Sisters of Aloon Senarian Circle Shadow
53:01
Council and Blackwater Raiders US and the question is say I wanted to go on an
53:07
Avatar-esque journey learning the iconic fighting arcs of Azeroth where am I going and what am I learning anything
53:13
really unusual I should be looking out for among the nations of Azeroth and Drraanor um and that's sincerely Maxia
53:19
Blaster so um anybody want to talk about this one before I try and answer it like
53:25
anyone else have something come on i mean the really the really obvious one there is Pandaria they already have they
53:33
already have the monastery set up for training people in the arts of the monk
53:39
so you know you could you could just slide right in there go to your monk school on the Peak of Serenity and it's
53:47
all right there it's all right there for the learning is that still there i thought they moved it i haven't played
53:53
my monk in a while so I don't you Yeah okay so yes you would have to do a little time traveling it does depend on
53:59
which phase of Pandaria you are in because yes in Legion there did they
54:05
move back to the wandering aisle in Legion i think they may have i thought that's where they moved it but I don't remember i barely played my monk in
54:12
Legion i was like never mind but monk school it's it's right there begging you
54:17
to attend see for me the first thing that came to mind wasn't or anything mhm
54:23
uh it was Frey Island because back in vanilla the first warrior quest this
54:28
first significant one was to go out to Frey Island and get beat up and it was where all warriors went to get beat up
54:35
like to as part of their I'm a warrior now punch me and and and it was just it was just a pit fight and you went and
54:42
did that and so for me Frey Island is this big deal for for nobody else no
54:47
other class nobody else went there but for warriors it was this big deal um that we all did so yeah that was my
54:54
first one uh Corey you got anything oo uh the dark spear learn how to be a
54:59
shadow hunter go hang out with some trolls that's Yeah you know seems unique enough well plus it I mean they they've
55:06
really beefed up their whole starting area so now it's actually a cool place to go compared to the way it used to be
55:12
like a couple of shacks next to the coast so there's at least that uh Joe you got one uh go you and visit the High
55:19
Mountain Torin because they are an extremely accomplished warrior race that nobody seems to talk about uh in the
55:26
conversation of marshall prowess upon Azeroth uh they have a big tradition of
55:33
like traditional uh or more like I guess you would say wild uh martial arts but
55:39
like nobody talks about them they're so cool they like do the questing with them you get to meet so many cool like
55:45
wonderful high mountain tour and they're like they have a ton of battle prowess oh yeah but I mean it's kind of like the
55:51
same thing with like if you suggested going to Thunderluff i was almost going to do that yeah you can't learn how to
55:57
be a 9- foot tall minur i mean that's just kind of inherent yeah i'm imagining
56:04
like some some forsaken showing up going "Can you teach me our ways?" And then being like "Yeah you going to go live in
56:09
a cave and and talk to spirits?" No I meant your fighting ways okay we're going to have to put some horns on you
56:15
and then about six feet of height yeah but that's why stand up straight but that's why I mentioned the high mountain
56:21
because they they don't necessarily rely entirely on their size that's just is my opinion i mean I like the high mountain
56:27
i'm not against it i just thought I just find it hilarious to imagine going there you're like a gnome going "Teach me your
56:32
ways." And they're like "Okay do you have four friends in a trench coat?" But yeah that's actually I I'm kind of
56:39
glad you mentioned the High Mountain because they have those crazy eagle riding hawk those like bird riding crazy
56:45
people those guys were fun i liked that guy but all right I guess I hope that answers your question Maxia um yes i
56:53
think Liz is right in that Pandaria was really probably the go-to for this and then you you have some others but I mean
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quite frankly you go to Oramar i mean it's loaded with crazy orcs who like to hit things with axes i I feel like
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that's battle prowess you could learn blade masters pretty uh pretty good at swinging a blade around um there's the
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um the Acuras there where the death knights or I do they still have Acuras
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or they live somewhere else now i think it's still they still have Acuras i mean they lost the Lich King gang but um they
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now have Bolvar hanging around probably still up there so you could you could go learn necroantic fighting from from the
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death knights you could even go to Lope if you still wanted to go to Pandaria but you didn't want to hang out with the
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monks you could always hang out with the monkeys and pick up some uh fighting styles but yeah I think at this point
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that we've answered that question though so um that's pretty much it uh thank you guys for being here with us uh thank you
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to for Corey for being here with us you know special guest star type uh thank you to Liz and Joe for as always making
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sure that the show even happens and thank you to you our listeners for giving us something to do uh this has
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been the Blizzard Watch podcast thank you all very much and we'll be back next week bye everybody
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