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This week's podcast is all about the fun new stuff that just hit WoW with patch 11.1 and Undermine. The Everlasting Nogginfogger was a popular topic, as was the overall Goblin mystique -- and the IRL hot rod Blizzard made last week. We also delved into Delves, the new rares we'll be killing -- or taming! -- and the new cool campfire scenes players can select for their Warbands.
We also discuss Heroes of the Storm and its influence on the rest of Blizzard's games. If you're a regular listener, you know that means Cory is guest hosting this week. He recommends Creepy Redneck Dinosaur Mansion 3 if you're looking to sample a game demo during Steam Next Fest, and said so three times fast, like Beetlejuice only slightly more cursed. And yes, that is a real game.
Also, if you're wondering what the best soundtrack is to get your Golds on the Kalimdor Cup now that that's back, we have some ideas.
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behold the blizzard watch podcast thrill to Liz Harper editor-in chief of the be
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a gast at Joe Perez who's trying to turn himself into a bat mutant I guess Hi and
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hi it's Corey say hi Corey oh now I'm disappointed th to Cory's disappointment
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I'm glad that you have a soundboard now oh that's so nice that was perfect anyway hi guys it's podcast we're gonna
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talk about a bunch of stuff um I'm gonna do something a little unusual here in that we have had bunch of questions for
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three weeks now and we've never gotten to them I'm going to read one of them now TMI asked this one it's a question
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for the blizzard watch podcast giving the recent Revelation SLC confirmation of EA being EA in regards to BioWare
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what companies are taking BioWare place in your heart my answer is very simple none BioWare if it dies it dies I will
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never replace it it will always have a special place in my heart that's just how it is for me if you guys want to
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answer go for it I think I've agement yeah I think that I've moved into the phase of my life where I no Gods no
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Kings no Masters uh if a game if a company makes a great game I'm there for it but we've just seen too much nonsense
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around the gaming industry for me to be like super ride or die about something yeah yeah I'm I'm kind of in the same
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boat and this kind of ties in I guess with a little bit of of my fatigue with video games in general is game companies
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aren't monoliths anymore they're not these bastions that we thought they were none of them are uh and I say this as
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I'm on a blizzard podcast go figure um oh yeah except for blizzard keep paying me
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Liz but EA isn't what EA was when it originally started cuz EA used to have
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some really great games like I literally went on a rant in our uh Guild Discord
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and I think even on the the blizzard watch Discord about how we never got a third American McGee Alice game even
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though there was a script written for it and they they tried multiple times and EA just will not let go of the uh the IP
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or produce it they just are holding it hostage whereas years ago 20 years ago 30 years ago they would have been like
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sure let's make this let's go uh same thing with BioWare BioWare was a unique time where like they get like lightning
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just like blizzard did they were right time right place with the right type of game that did exactly what people wanted
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at that specific time and it launched them into this huge trajectory and then
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they've been to Shell of their former self for a while at this point uh and even when you see the glimmers of like
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the good stuff right it gets taken away from us like yeah we we we just wanted a
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whole thing about uh you know uh The Dread wolf uh Saga coming to a close and
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that being it we're not getting it anymore we're not getting any more Dragon Age this just it might be it might come back as a Pinko machine maybe
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uh but like sadly we're we're we're kind of done right and with BioWare kind of
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moving into that EA being sunsetting them you look at how many game companies
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how many developers how many of the people that produced the games we loved year over all these years have gone that
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way or have been absorbed by a larger entity and then tasked with doing something that isn't their primary role
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so when BioWare goes away I will be will Ferell at the grave site singing Dust in
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the Wind uh for the Fallen comrade because you know it's the time has come
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and gone right it's just and I'm with Matt nothing will take that place it's just it was there and when it's gone
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it's gone yeah nobody made Jade Empire but BioWare nobody made kns of the Old Republic but BioWare I will never stop
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loving the guys who gave me you know balers gate one and two I will never stop Ling that those those times but
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those times are gone and those the company no company is going to come in and be the company that made those those
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companies will have to be the game they made the games they made and I'll Stand and fall on those but I'm I think Jo I
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think Corey had a good point in that no gods or no Masters I I don't owe a
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company my loyalty if you make a good game then and I like it I'll buy it but I'm not gonna I'm not going to be ride
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or die anymore as as people have said not even for Mass Effect you know if the
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next Mass Effect game doesn't strike me as something I want to play I'm not going it's just there there will always
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be a BioWare shaped space in all of our hearts even if it's an empty dead space
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c the Sarah mclf music and uh let's move on to talking about the various news about blizzard um because you know we do
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have to actually talk about Blizzard at least I think 45% of the show has to be blizzard according to the FBA by volume
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Yeah by volume and you we're definitely supplying the canc con required by the Canadian version of that company yes
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that's true because we mentioned BioWare and of course two of us are Canadian there we go so World of Warcraft what
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are you doing World of Warcraft patch 11.1 has been released uh it's out today as we're recording I believe yeah it is
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live now are the servers up at this time or we still down they servers are up the
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shop issue that popped up too I believe what's the shop issue yes this there wasn't you just couldn't buy things
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oh okay they broke but sorry Liz go ahead um the servers actually came up on
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time you know I was hearing a lot of speculation that it would be a long maintenance this is a really big patch
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there are lots of changes Lots going on uh but they came back up on time they weren't entirely
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stable but they were online on time oh God you know you know you know
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how it is uh certainly if you're logging on be sure to update those add-ons
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because I logged on and nothing worked it was an add-on of course it was an add-on it's always an add-on almost
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add-on so maybe a little instability but uh hop on it's looking good so there's a
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trailer out that's got gwick and zotth in case you were wondering is zotth actually involved in any of this yeah
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she's there yeah it does it it does feel like a narrative leap but there it is
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there it ISAT zat's involved in many things including wacky Goblin hij Jinks uhy
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those wacky goblins it's like a it's there's a tone disconnect between these
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two things that they're they're definitely trying to make it work they but it's it does feel odd to have uh
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zotth in the same room as gwick it just feels weird these are
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two these are characters that exist in their own little worlds and gwick especially is really a caricature so
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it it feels weird to put them together in a scene yeah you keep thinking at some point CLA Christian's just going to
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kill this man I I I don't know how to put this it just feels like the Ivanova
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speeches from from uh you know I can't remember the name of the show my God I'm I'm gonna get destroyed people
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are gonna come to my house you guys remember the show anyway yeah that's gonna happen it's possible it it is
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possible we know we're going into the liberation of undermine raid if we know gwick is the final boss you know yeah
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maybe maybe she comes in and kill steals at the very end I could see that or I could see her showing up just to just to
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be amused at his death but we should talk about in addition to the goblin cartels that you can get with rep with
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there's a Everlasting Noggin foger potion yes that cost you 50 silver every
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time you use it yes that is so Goblin wow Noggin fucker's got to make his
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money right you know you used to have to go all the way out to Gad Gad to buy your nogin fogger potion now you
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can just buy this Everlasting Noggin fogger potion and pay as you go it's the
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per sub he's got a subscription service you
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know what also this show was Babylon 5 I'm in I'm like this this is this is gonna be one of the first things I get
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dang it I'm gonna find my way to it um so this is on the uh the the Noggin
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fogger reput track I am yes I'm totally blanking on the name of the cartel so
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someone someone fill in for me here I think it isn't it just the Noggin foger
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am I am I just like my brain breaking or is it steam Weedle it's steam Weedle
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steam Weedle that's it yeah because that's where he is down in gadg Gad hands see yeah there we go my brain
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broke sorry folks all of our brains broke at the same time until my brain didn't break it
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just was refusing to engage in the first place I was like no man I ain't I don't care he's nogg and foger to me I don't
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know what his name is this is it's very it's very much like ash cahat reputation
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you pick cartel to work with this week so you may want to go steam Weedle so
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you can get your very exciting nog and fogger Elixir and so you can pay 50
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silver every time you want to use it but you it's better than going to buy a new one yeah you have to go buy a new one
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anyway so it's kind of like it's like a food delivery system like when you have one of those companies
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against the cart and you're paying more but you don't have to walk in like negative 37 snow and and ice I'm
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Canadian again we just felt we we'd throw more of that in there um but yeah it it it is interesting to see them do
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that um quite frankly I think it's kind of nice that you just instead of having to constantly go back to get new stuff
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in fact I want them to bring out some kind of like winter spring trainer like he's like this big you know this big uh
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they I forget what the bear people big furb and you go and buy this Everlasting uh winter spring thing and
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you just be big whenever you want and yeah sure you have to pay another 50 silver but great that way I don't have to worry about it I mean I thought
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translog was gonna bankrupt bankrupt me but now it's GNA be nogg and fogger you would you would have to drink
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a lot of nogan fogger to go bankrupt in this economy even in this economy you would
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have to drink a lot of this so in addition to this uh we should talk at least briefly about the the big time
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thing he's a car rebuilding YouTuber and he's building like one of the hot rods from from the whole new expansion it's
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it's ready it's done it's drivable yeah but in the video he's building it like the video is him building this car and
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yeah I it reminds me of like videos they did in the past I really loved like the whole deal where they would make a sword
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although they never madey the cowards um so yeah I'm totally down for this right away so I wanted to mention that uh it's
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really great to see blizzard flexing their like influencer budget a bit there and like doing cool stuff like this
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again because it's always it's always such a fun thing to see in-game things come to life in the real also now we get
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the warband campsite steel oh so already he lives I'm sorry go ahead I mean the end result looks exactly like an in game
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Goblin card they nailed it it it shoots fire it's it's a hole it's very Goblin
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it's it's the Goblin little it's got the little r tail hanging off the aerial yep it does I
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mean I I do wonder if it is like street legal in California where they were
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building it but I also I also wonder that about the ones in game are the is anything street legal are there you know
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yeah goblins aren't big on laws anyway so this does not seem safe they've got that scene from Parks and wreck where
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Nick offerman's character runs once and just hold up the note saying I can do what I want and yeah pretty much I
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understand what you're talking uh but while we're talking about this there's also a bunch of new rares for people who like to go out and kill rares or for I
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guess at least some of them for hunters who want to tame them I mean I don't think they're all going to be tameable because I'm sure some of them will just
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be people and you're not supposed to tame people I know you some of you tamed a wargan once but you you weren't
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supposed to and you know it however there's a really nice pink stork looking thing I'm pretty sure you could tame that um yeah I actually now I'm starting
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to think about that I don't think you could probably tame uh you know ephemeral agent lth um laid I don't
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think you could tame that and you should there there really are a lot of people people on this list people not beasts
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yeah so I mean we're we're in a whole new zone so it's not a surprise that we
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have new rares to summon and fight no that's a big deal from last few but it's
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still nice to have them yeah it's totally nice to have them I thought the the weird thing here was that some of
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them are cartel specific like you have to to you need to reach a certain amount
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of renown with a certain cartel to be able to summon and kill them yeah and
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don't you also have to be like Ren outed with the uh them you have to actually be aligned with them or is that just you
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have to generate the uh reputation by being align to to the best of my knowledge you have to get to a certain
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reputation level with them and you can only uh you can only summon the boss if you are aligned with them that week like
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you can choose a different one every week just like in Ash cahat but when you are at this reputation level which I
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think is renowned six and also aligned with them you can summon these rares and
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uh and kill them for loot reputation tame I don't
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know there's one for each cartel uh there's one for the bwat one for steam
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Weedle one for the Venture company and one for the Darkwater catel and then there's a fifth one that we don't know
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who they get that there's like a go ahead listen well it there is there is a
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secret fifth cartel which is not official yet secret right it's not it's
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not that secret but it's not one of the the main four that are going live at um
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so yes I mean the final rare is called the dark fuse precipitant precipitant am
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I saying that right I don't know what that word means me it means pre yeah
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precip precipitation is rain precipitant mean he makes it rain so okay sure so
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and so you so you would assume this is a dark fuse related rare that perhaps
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people aligned with the dark fuse could summon but they are not an our an official cartel right now but I'm sure
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if they ever become one we'll all be very shocked yeah we will be very shocked like I was very shocked to find
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that g Wix was working with zotth that was like I mean it makes sense I it
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makes sense for him to want to work with her it doesn't necessarily make as much sense that she's working with him unless
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she want wants something specific like you know all the casite yeah I just mean like I don't know it's it's a
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personality thing she feels very much and ends justify the means kind of kind of lady so I could see her putting up
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with gx's obnoxious to get her hands on some tasty tasty casite yeah and with
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that sorry I'm looking at I'm looking at the uh trailer and thinking to myself man this is some crazy stuff uh but yeah
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in addition to all of that what else have we got to talk about we talked about the rares I I didn't even mention the rare that is a crab with a bomb for
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a shell which I just love the very idea of it yes um there is because if you're
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living if you're living in undermine if you're a crab living in undermine you need a new shell you're going to use
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what's available even if it's like a bomb casing yeah I do not dispute that I
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think it is in fact very logical that you'd be using a bomb casing in undermine or something else I mean
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whatever you know detritus would happen to be at hand all right probably going to be one of those patches maybe a car
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maybe a car yeah car c oh it could be a beetle a beetle with a big bug
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car anyway uh I wanted to mention briefly the new warband campsites uh
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some of which you can get now some of which are coming later uh can we is it like I I remember I don't know if it was
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Joe talking about it or somebody some someone told me that you can basically have absolutely every single one of your
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characters in a campsite now so you instead of just having the one campsite for your one group of warbound you'd
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have like 30 campsites for all of them is is that real yes that is real you can
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have H different groups of characters on on different campsites and like scroll between the campsites instead of just
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like scrolling through your character list necessarily all right then my big question is which ones of these
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campsites are the ones you guys think you might use uh I logged on earlier and immediately switched to the hon Overlook
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which is just what it sounds like it's a little Campsite in onor on planes but I've got to admit that was mostly
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because I just you I needed a change of pace I wanted something different uh I really can't wait to get my hands on the
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the the goblin one where you get the statue of the GS in the background and
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it's bright lights and Goblin nonsense lay it on me the galago grand
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Gallery which uh you have to complete achievements in I think Liberation yeah
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just in the zone just in the zone I think it's actually yeah so basically by doing all the stuff in the zone that you
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would normally be doing always the playing you'll unlock it it's gonna be fun on the bun I'm sorry I like F I like
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the frey wal spring um it's really uh I don't have the yet but I have some of
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them uh so yeah that's kind of the that is one you can get now or you may
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already have you just have to get Seas kazalar it's that's just the Cazal gar
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stuff for fre for freyal spring oh yeah it's the cus Quay where you have to season do things yes I don't know that I
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want I don't The ctis Quay is kind of dark just yeah so I Frey wal spring is
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you know it's an outdoor uh Isle of dor scene it's very pretty it's very I you know you've got
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your nice Dwarven buildings in the background you've got your plants and flowers and a little spring it looks
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like a nice place to hang out culus quain which you get by doing delve stuff
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in the season 2 delver's journey is it's kind of like a a dark shadowy dock
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that's going to be the place where you're going to put like all of your Rogues and like maybe warlocks all of
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your super sneaky types may want to hang out there Warlock the definition of
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super sneaky and then warlock I don't know if that' count them as well pretty they're they're very neon a lot
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of time they're they're kind of suspicious though you know they're they can be
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Joe are you going to switch to a new theme when you log on more than likely but I have not made
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a decision yet like I don't I haven't decided what it's going to what it's going to be so I will I will probably
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post the picture online when I log in after the podcast so there are only there are only the four of them right
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now there are not a lot but blizzard has talked about making more so I think in the future we'll probably see more of
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these and the one of them that's season two specific will probably be opening after next week because that's when
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season two opens that's a beautiful segue Matt amazing um next week we get a
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liberation of undermine raid um we got various mythics coming in uh I I don't
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do a lot of mythics but you know I do think it's cool that they're getting new stuff uh are we G do we are we getting
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different um I want to say catchphrases but that's not what they're called uh the words that you get to tell you
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what's happening in the the Mythic affixes say thank you geez I could not say that so we're getting new ones right
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I don't believe so I think it's still the zotth inspired uh grab bag of stuff
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don't quote me on that yeah there we we've already I think we've already covered the the changes that they're making which are more quality of life
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changes than anything else right yeah they're tweaking a lot of stuff to be friendlier for the pickup group scene
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because it was getting kind of dire that people weren't having the most
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fun and when it's a game about fun you know you should be having fun so in addition to all that we're also getting
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a new world boss named The Godfather um and The Godfather drops a warbound until
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equipped item on the first kill each week per account I that's it's a new
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kind of loot system for World bosses so up to this point World bosses have
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they'll drop a piece of loot they have a chance of dropping a piece of loot specifically for the character that you
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kill them on now instead of doing that for your first Kill by any character on
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your account for the week you will get a warbound piece of gear that may not be
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specific to your character it may not be anything for any of your characters but it sounds like it sounds like you will
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get a guaranteed piece of gear but it will be warbound and it will only happen for your first kill of the week so
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there's really no need to like run through all your characters to get it is what you're saying yeah so H I'm
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the boss right you just the first one will get you something for sure I don't I don't know that's not how they
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describe it they really describe it like it's you only get loot the first time which is kind of like the system we've
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seen them doing for the x45 heartbreaker which you have a a not good but better
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chance of getting it on your first kill of the day and then after that it's so low as to basically be pointless to keep
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grinding but the thing that I wonder about with this is you you're it sounds like you're
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definitely getting loot the first time you kill it but you won't necessarily be getting loot for your character so if
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you go in and kill the kill him with a character that you're trying to Gear Up it may not help you at all in fact if it
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can give you anything for any for any class or spec it's more likely that it
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won't help you then it will help you so I I'm kind of iffy about that one but
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Cory you're right maybe it gives gives people a point to keep killing it even after their main character could not
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necessarily make use of the gear yeah I've got nothing to add to that I I really yeah you covered it yeah that's
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pretty much where I was too um now we'll talk about the new delves mechanics because they're we're not going to talk
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about them we've talked about them before but they're in uh including tank uh brand bronzebeard even though the
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season's actually starting next week the delves are in right now am I understanding this sentence correctly
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I haven't gone looking for the new delves yet but all of the mechanical stuff is already in like if you look at
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your delver's journey it's still the season one Journey this week season 1 is still on this week this is the last time
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for season 1 but next week you'll get into all the new season but even so if
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you start a delve tonight you'll have tanky brand now you don't have you can
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you can choose to have a tanky brand and he's actually supposed to be easier to level up now
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uh I believe he takes less experience to level up so he may be a little easier to get him up through the levels if you
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haven't bothered in the past okay uh also we haven't mentioned this one that recently but both plunder storm and
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turbulent time wavs are now over for now until such time as they do another one yeah um but there's a note here that I
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wanted to discuss briefly because it's an interesting point uh I'm just going to read it so everybody you know listening to the show can actually know
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what the question is uh it seemed like far fewer people were engaging with plunder storm till the end was it a
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misstep to change the way plunder stor plunder Renown rewards sorry I was turning into plunder Renown it was
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really weird uh plunder Renown rewards were DED out from engagement numbers Gober standpoint uh do you think they'll
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bring it back a third time so do you think he'll bring it back a third time uh definitely 100% I would be I would be
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surprised if they didn't yeah it's such an easy break glass to incentivize some
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players to go out and do a different thing button that they can push basically whenever that I mean yeah you
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got to have a new pallet swap for your for your rewards but get a guy working on the rewards in the background it'll
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keep a bunch of players occupied within your game in a fun way like a people are enjoying themselves and they get to do
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the they get to do another plunder storm creators cup where they have a bunch of influencers team up and like run around
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and kill each other and then we get to watch Genji win again okay then the next question is do you think they're going
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to use this system or do you think they'll take it back to the original system I think that the public sentiment was
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more on the side of the system so yeah we did have a bunch of people that were just they're just for there for the loot
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they're going to get in and get out as fast as they can and this made them it's less of a slog you can get the thing you
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want the most right away so I feel like that from a psychology standpoint that's probably better than the you got to get
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on the treadmill and stay on the treadmill until you get the thing I think what do you think I think the new
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system was a lot better I really did not dive into plunder storm this time time it's not my favorite kind of gameplay
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and I decided you know I that pirate coat it looks really cool it probably would not take me very long with this
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new type of system to get it but you know I I don't have to do that it is very freeing to just decide I don't have
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to do that that's content I'm not super into I I can just not do it so I'm sorry
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Liz but that's not allowed you have to do everything all the time everywhere all uh no no no I don't yeah
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Liz running down to hit to throw a hammer at a screen outla that 1984 Apple ad that you know the fact that I'm
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mentioning it paints me as this ancient thing from a crypt Bel of the Earth from
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fbit bastions of antiquity I bring you this reference Joe I was going to say like I
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know people really enjoyed it like they there there's a reason they brought it back right and it wasn't just because it
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was a break glass in case of content drought because we're in the middle of an expansion um it was people enjoyed it
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people were asking when it was going to come back so they brought it back so it coming back a third time very likely umh
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it's not something that I will engage with because I tried the first time and as much as I like Battle Royal and I do
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I mean you can ask Mitch how many times we uh we took first place in teams in fortnite um but it's for me it's not
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scratching that itch it's Cory's going to probably jump through the internet for me here and and
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throttle me but it's like the first time I played Heroes of the Storm the very first time when it first released is it
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felt like Heroes of the Storm was a mobile light it eventually became its own thing and I really enjoyed Heroes but at first it was like mobile light uh
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in in this particular case for me plunder storm is Battle Royale light uh
27:20
it has a lot of didn't say pubg light I thought you sayg L and I'm like oh God I'm gonna cringe no I'm not going to
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compare it to a specific game because you can't it's just it's a genre and I'm I'm okay with just calling it that genre
27:32
and moving on um but it's one of those things where like it's not scratching that itch for me and that's okay I can
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just move on and for the people that enjoy it I'm glad that they got to enjoy it again the thing that I'm still waiting to see if they bring back and
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it'll probably be an end of expansion uh like the expansion is over we're waiting for the next expansion or we have a
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little bit of time before midnight or whatever the case is uh I'd love to see them do another remix and it doesn't
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necessarily have to be missed and maybe they're working out in the background or they just haven't said anything because it's still something because I know
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remissed was super popular and I'm curious if that's going to have a return
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as something else like I don't know rth or something else no it's it's gonna be
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Legion and they're going to call it fell again if they did fell again I'd be all for it yeah trust
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Fells okay uh next turn on the little list here um we've got the calendar is cut back and it's back this week is it
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back today as we're recording or is it back and it's going till March 10 so you got two weeks get to raise them now that
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the entire world is set up for it yeah I've I've always said that I'm gonna go out and do these and then and then I
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don't but there's transmog there's transmog here's what I did the last time
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I did I went hard on one of these was just I ran I sat down I put on a kicking
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soundtrack in the background and I just was like I'm going to do these races and I'm going to get gold and I'm going to
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move on to the next one I'm going to get gold I'm going to move on to the next one and so for a few hours I totally
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messed my Spotify algorithm up because all I was listening to was Ronnie James Dio and I feel like I flew a little bit
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faster when holy Rider Holy Diver was playing but I did it I got through the bird and Crusade ones and listened to a
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lot of di see I'm glad you went with Dio because I not not being an intellectual
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like you I would have gone with Kenny Loggins and I think yours was a superior choice look I I even wrote a breakfast
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topic about this a million years ago about like what song would you put on in the background when you're Dragon riding for that feeling and of course obviously
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danger zone is a standout because of really I would have gone with Mr knight from Kenny loggin he's just showing off
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as Kenny login that's all this is look at this guy who's big into kog I am I was going with my thing is quite simply
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I I would have used the song sister chrisan there's a good one too by Night Ranger by Night Ranger wow okay
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see I can do this with you if you want to do this Joe we can we can do this let's let's go deep down the 80s rock
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hole here let's let's do it I mean I mean the other obvious uh one is Foo
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Fighters learn to fly but it's uh I would I mean it's I don't think it's got the right BPM like you're going if you're going to go old school You're
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Gonna Go mly Crew Kickstart My Heart uh a good little bit poison feel good can't
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say no to dror feel good yep uh 409 Beach Boys is actually pretty good for that as well Radar Love like I mean come
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on oh radar golden anything Golden Earring really running down a dream Tom Petty we could we could do this all
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night trust me I'm I'm music flock of seagull Space Age love
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song I defy you to prove me wrong on that Jerry Was a Race Car Driver by Primus let's go oh wow
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okay we're going to move on because if we keep doing this this will be the show um Heroes of the Storm news small
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balance patch on the PTR this week Cory go ahead and pretend that this means
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this thing's coming back go it's coming back at this time I'm sure of it any day now they're going to make the announcement that Heroes of the Storm is
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getting version 3.0 honestly did did anyone else feel like they're kind of like they're turning they taking stuff
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from Heroes of the Storm and putting it in OverWatch they're always doing that well the storm was such great here's the
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storm was such a great incubator for like Concepts and ideas and skills and
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characters that like you drop you don't need to have a fleshed out Demon Hunter
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but wait here's the storm has one named vaa and now oh Diablo I has a weapon named after her same with Johanna and
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kazim and all all the other characters in there and we still see like brightwing popping up and stuff still
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and brightwing was basically just a a one little fairy dragon that lived in Warcraft somewhere and then here's the
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storm put her in as a murderous psychopath and all of a sudden she's got a following and so that was what Heroes
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of the Storm was so good at was taking a character whether you knew them already whether they're a big tentpole character
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like TH or Rainer or a little smaller one like brightwing and then making them
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somebody you have your your quintessential like vaa is the quintessential Demon Hunter from Diablo
32:15
I Johanna is the quintessential Crusader from Diablo I because of Heroes of the Storm and I think that that was
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obviously when they took the game away that was what they lost with that they lost with way to like it it's like the
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cinematics that we don't see anymore like we're not seeing old Soldier style cinematics anymore yeah because there
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those things that cost money and they don't make money but they show that the company is investing in its games and
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that shows you that there's Worth to the game because the company thinks so and it flushes the world out in a way that
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you don't get just by playing in World of Warcraft which is what here's the storm was great for and then it's still
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chugging along they're still maintaining it they did it gave Daka a little teeny Nerf he's doing a little less damage
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he's going to be less oppressive and you can maybe get away from him a little better and they gave kazim a little tiny
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buff and he's going to be a better healer and he's going to be able to support you a little more and they gave Lucio a little tiny Nerf and he's going
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to do other things so like they're still tweaking things and they're still trying to get the game to a really good spot
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and it feels like it's in a really good spot and we're all just waiting for that big button in the sky that says 3.0
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would be very happy if they announced that they were getting back into development for it I'm not going to lie I really enjoyed what it became and like
33:34
going back to some of the earlier uh conversation like it I when it first started I wasn't super into it because I
33:40
was like oh this it this isn't like League of Legends I can't enjoy this uh and then I realized what it was and it
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was just a lot a lot of fun to play with friends uh and I mean I put hundreds of
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hours into that game with people um so many hours I bought so many skins and
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etc etc yeah and the other thing like to your point I want to just point this out real quick and I believe I mentioned
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this on the podcast and if I haven't I'm going to do it here I'm 90% sure I did it might have just been me like fever
34:11
dream talking about this in like raid night on on Discord or whatever but like we have evokers because of Heroes of the
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Storm like yeah you did talk yeah yeah the evoker Alex it's alexza and yera
34:24
it's both of them it's so like that was the blueprint for evokers and people who love evokers we wouldn't have them
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without Heroes of the Storm I really do hope that they realize what the value is
34:37
of that game and I know that there are people that are still working there that would love to get their hands on like
34:42
active development for it not just maintenance and I'm here for it like if they announced a 3.0 tomorrow and said
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hey here's a $40 you know 3.0 Founders pack with a bunch of skins and stuff like that and I I I 100% I would be
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there too right like I talked about earlier about how I'm like on this like weird thing for games I would make time
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for that I I love Heroes of the Storm that much it was always so much fun to get
35:07
together and you know you have a couple buds and you just kind of you play your games and yeah you have fun and you you
35:13
win you lose at the end of the night you probably had a pretty good time unless you lost a lot and then you had maybe less of a good time but just don't lose
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obviously I refused to accept that because I lost constantly and I actually had a pretty good time playing is of all
35:28
people maurion who was a really solid healer and he was a really solid healer but we're going to move on because we do
35:34
have other things to talk about real fast one Warcraft Rumble Lich King's coming hey did you know there must
35:40
always be a Lich King apparently yeah uh he comes out of a little machine now and and it's dropped onto a table and he's a
35:47
little cute mini he is you know and that is about all we know about him he's coming in the future they mention uh the
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cold Frozen lands of the north so it's possible that we're going to get another one zone of Rumble Maps maybe five
36:02
people maybe five new maps maybe 10 I don't know how many they're going to give us North friend was not a massive
36:08
Zone um he's been teased a couple times they froze Tyrion in a block of ice and they they've released a blog post saying
36:15
yes the L King is Coming details to be coming in the future and now they have a little trailer where they show him so
36:22
yeah and he looks good he looks kind of like he got a bit of his hot character model thrown in there because got the
36:28
nice kind of burnt gold Dusty gold edging on his armor that isn't quite
36:33
there in Warcraft but um he's probably going to be he's definitely going to be an undead leader if he comes alongside a
36:39
whole northrend Zone at least that's more zon uh we I which is weird because we were pretty sure that the next
36:45
content was going to be Outland but maybe Outland feels a bit too large to release all at once uh because it's a
36:52
whole other planet and if you release Outland then you probably have to release a demon Army because a lot you
36:58
fight a lot of demons in Outland so that's a whole extra family to add into the mix of things which could be a
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pretty big Endeavor for them yeah maybe but you know we love arthus great I mean
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yeah people do like arthus it's true um I even liked arus the dog one um
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Everyone likes arus he was good he a good boy good Frozen um Diablo 4 News
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patch 2.1.2 fixed the necromancers rings of Mel by not fixing it uh Community
37:28
apparently comes in and goes guys this still ain't working and so now go ahead Liz it's interesting because yes there
37:35
there was a whole patch and the a very large portion of the patch was devoted to fixing some Necromancer bugs about
37:42
minions not scaling and minions not scaling specifically with the Ring of mlin and they rolled out the patch and
37:51
then we saw a lot of content creators doing a lot of testing just to find out
37:57
it was exactly the same as it was pre patch and then blizzard is like oh oh we're going to fix it we're going to fix
38:03
it and they rolled out a patch that fixed they rolled out a hot fix that fixed some of it and now we're waiting
38:10
now we're waiting the next patch so I I do think it is now upgraded to mostly
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fixed but also this has been a bug with a core type of necromancer build that's
38:23
been in the game since season 7 launched which was a little while go at this point and it's it's still it's a tiny
38:31
bit broken it's less broken than it has been yes it's now it's tiny bit broken
38:37
it's mostly fixed mostly fixed is still kind of broken so yeah although there is also the thing even even the parts of it
38:43
that are fixed are not showing up on the tool tip properly and that w't be
38:48
changed until the next patch 2.1.3 before we get that fixed so which we
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don't we don't know when that's going to be they roll patches I kind of hot F patches out every couple of weeks all
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righty um we've talked about the warcraft Rumble thing so I am going to try and get the steam Fest the steam
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next Fest not steamfest next um February 24th which was yesterday that that
39:12
happened and it's going till March 3D have you guys been like looking at it at all paying attention to it what have you
39:17
guys been interested in I we should maybe lead by saying steam nextfest is a
39:23
celebration of new game demos so all of the games in Steam nextfest a have a new
39:28
demo which makes it a great time to check out new games because you know it's not like a steam sale where you're
39:34
compelled to buy like a hundred things that you may or may not play because they're such good deals so you have to
39:41
buy them yeah that that does happen yes it does happen not that any of us know
39:47
from personal experience no no no no but here it's just like hey there are a bunch of cool game demos and you can
39:53
download them right now and play them right now and I that's what makes nextfest super great because it's like
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okay here are all these great games give them a try and then when they're released you were like all and you
40:07
played some of it you know you want to play this game it's funny I just saw some uh I don't know what part of the
40:13
industry they were in but somebody was talking about how they feel like game trailers don't really make sense because
40:19
you put all this money into making a trailer and then it results in very little quickr and buying of game it
40:24
turns out that if you let people play your game for a little while it actually leads to a lot more sales and so it's
40:30
it's nice to see demos coming back because and and everyone made fun of it because it's like yeah you just reinvented demos for games
40:37
congratulations you reinvented a train kind of situation but you know it's great let's let's throw more you know
40:43
demos of things you wouldn't have to reinvent the thing if you guys have just been doing it exactly but I mean maybe you're not
40:51
going to look at a trailer for a game like creepy redneck dinosaur Mansion 3 and then buy it sight on scene if
40:59
you going to be dying that it's got dinosaur right in it Cory what's wrong with you I played Arc survival Hunter
41:06
for like three years man and that is a in fact a game that you could download a demo for and creepy
41:14
redneck dinosaur Mansion 3 right now if you wanted to it's true it's true I do but anyway noone's actually listed any
41:21
games that they've looked at and said oh that looks interesting I will start with one desperate place it's a strategic
41:28
tower defense game but it's also kind of like Space Marines and kind of like you
41:34
know it's kind of like a 4X a little bit and it's just a weird enough game concept and the art is interesting
41:41
enough that I am I'm now giving it the side ey and thinking oh maybe so anybody else got one uh well the next Duck
41:48
detective game has a demo it's uh you know it's kind of right there in the name you're a duck you are also a
41:55
detective as solving Mysteries the last one was it's a cute short game I I
42:01
enjoyed it you realize that that like started in Gravity Falls right was yeah duck detective was a TV
42:08
show in Gravity Falls that that everybody except for Dipper was obsessed with like when you I couldn't place it
42:14
when we first started talking about the duck detective game when you started talking about it and then I just rewatched Gravity Falls and I'm like
42:20
this is where it's from they even look similar well there's only so many ways to put a detective hat on a duck so fair
42:26
yeah yeah that's that's true that's true um there's also there's there's one I
42:33
ran into the other day omelet you cook which is a omelet cooking Rog likee with
42:40
a pun title oh my God it's a pun title yeah it's just I saw the title and I'm
42:45
like I have to know more and it is it is a Rog like omelet cooking game where you
42:52
make bizarre omelets for people so okay yeah yeah and it's not like I have to
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pay money to figure it out it's I can I can just go and download the demo and it's like I could say I love it or I
43:06
hate it and I'm never playing it again either way there's also beauty of these kinds of things exactly Cory have you
43:13
gone yet have you mentioned anything I mean I did mention creepy redneck dinosaur Mansion so I I feel like by
43:20
mentioning creepy redneck dinosaur management 3 I put my shoe in the camp of creepy redneck dinosaur 3 okay uh
43:26
lasz were you going to you had one you were going to list uh there's one another one I found is called deck of
43:32
haunts where the tagline is I don't think you need to say anything more than this the tagline is become a haunted
43:39
house and I didn't I didn't realize this was a choice but kind of now that I've
43:45
read that I'm into it I'm into it for me I mean I'm I'm showing my incredibly
43:51
prosaic and somewhat plean tastes because there's essentially a
43:57
merging between Diablo and Hades but you're a cyborg and you're shooting
44:03
things and it's called kiborg because you're a kit bash cyborg you're literally building your cyborg body out
44:09
of the people you beat up and it's just it's just this is this is me being the
44:15
most 16-year-old me imaginable but I am down for this I I I feel like this is
44:22
just this is a game that I don't understand why it didn't exist before like you play a prisoner who beats up uh
44:27
guards and such takes their stuff and makes himself into a cyborg with it I I I don't know why this was not already
44:33
here I feel like it should have always have been here and I'm very excited for it so well Jo you haven't said much of anything gonna make you talk I don't
44:41
really have anything to add for this one I went through the list of games that were coming for like or are going to be
44:46
available nothing really jumped out at me uh the only thing that like is
44:52
potentially on my radar was uh retrowave does uh occasionally does games and
44:57
they're doing another uh Angry Video Game Nerd uh the Angry Video Game Nerd 8 bit uh which is going to be a demo
45:04
available I might check that out if I have a few spare moments but going through it the the one thing I did
45:10
notice is that like a lot of the titles were there's a lot of chaff right like there is just a lot of junk uh there's a
45:17
lot of like Veil thinned like weirdly sexual games and like there there's some
45:25
that look like they might be cool uh but then like you start reading a little bit further and then you start questioning
45:31
what the what the motivation behind it is it's all over the place and it's steam especially with like the
45:37
independent stuff um has been weird lately over the last like well several
45:43
years probably um so but nothing really jumped out at me like as particularly
45:48
attention worthy at least for me so but that also might be me being highly focused on you know the other thing that
45:54
I talked about during the pre-show uh you and not really seeing anything that that tickles my fancy enough to to
46:01
Really jump on the uh the the preview train there for it will say there is go
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ahead there's one more on my list called tiny Bookshop in which you run a
46:11
Bookshop but it's a Bookshop on a little trailer that you tow around behind your car and you just see like set your
46:17
Bookshop up at the beach and people come and buy books and you decorate your book shop and you shove books and it's like
46:24
yeah that sounds this is my this is my dream life I was say Chate here guys
46:30
running a book shop we have somebody in real life that does that in like the warmer months here in the city like like they have a little like a
46:38
little tiny home thing that they drive around and like Park in like some of the uh the more inaccessible areas and they just like sell books and stuff like that
46:44
and it's usually like really cheap or like directed towards like kids that don't have access to libraries or stuff
46:50
like that like it's yeah I like that that is exactly this game so it's a very
46:56
cute demo out now I still think haunted Chocolatea needs to come out tomorrow um yeah yeah I would I would be in on that
47:02
one also gonna at this point throw it over to Liz to do the patreon things that we get I am here to tell you that
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support thank you I don't know why I just sat there for a second listening and didn't respond you were mesmerized
49:41
no seriously like I just sitting here thinking about like complex relationship webs and I'm like what what is Matthew
49:48
you cannot do this now uh so yeah do we have enough time for any more questions I'd like to do at least one more could
49:53
it'd be nice if we could get one more what about we try to do that first question on the list oh okay uh oneup
49:59
versus CPU I I I think I like your your name that's actually really cool it it made
50:05
me think um this one is what would you do if you got a wow neighbor who did
50:11
something off-putting with their house like put Mal drax's theme on it and uh to me I am the kind of guy who when the
50:18
HOA is mad that my neighbor has a giant skeleton will go over to his house and tell him I love your giant skeleton
50:24
don't take it down so I think I'm okay with Mal draxis themes on the houses uh
50:30
but quite frankly I have no idea if that's even going to be possible um Joe I would grow a giant
50:39
Shrubbery so you're okay with the whatever your neighbor puts out right yeah I mean I you just don't want to see it yeah yeah my neighbors can do
50:45
whatever the heck they want as long as it doesn't violate my space whatever and if I if it was really that God aul
50:50
eyesight for me I would find some way to block it with something that I did enjoy whether it was like a tree or you know
50:56
fence with like a mural on it or a rock formation or you know skons an army of
51:02
giant skeletons which is exactly what I was going to say did you know they make giant skeleton chickens now for Halloween as well and I'm probably going
51:08
to get a couple of them for for hallowen uhuh you you're talking to the guy who not only knows about the CH about the
51:13
chickens but I also know about the skeletal T-Rex yeah that is even bigger than the giant skeleton Yep this is
51:20
going to become like some weird one-upsmanship where the the companies just keep trying to make a 17 foot sket
51:26
and all they all said they were mad but the dream of the 17t home skeleton has finally become true to be fair this is a
51:33
future I want yes yeah so Liz man I'm going to be the one to say that I'm going to burn that Tower of Bones to the
51:40
ground that probably won't be possible so I'll just have to sit here and become
51:46
like the neighborhood watch who is just really really aggravating and like
51:51
manages the paint colors that you can paint your houses that's watch becoming
51:56
the HOA run yeah I don't know what happened how did we go wrong there's
52:03
definitely going to be some streamers Guild out group out there that like in order to be part of streamer
52:08
neighborhood you have to conform with exactly this kind of aesthetic I mean there's I fully intend to judge
52:15
everyone's houses like I judge their transmogs and if someone builds a tower of Bones next to me next to my adorable
52:23
cute beach cottage with a perfect pristine little garden if someone does that going to be very and I maybe maybe
52:31
there will be a way to block The View with the giant Shrubbery if so I will continue to be content but I will still
52:37
be judging people okay uh Corey hi I'm the guy that's going to be doing the giant Tower of Bones
52:45
so it's it's a giant Tower of Bones and Good News Cory Works
52:52
in it works if you're in the kind of neighborhood that is like giant Tower of
52:58
Bones themed but if you're in like the Cozy Cottage neighborhood and you build
53:03
a giant Tower of Bones I Cory can I interest you in a cozy Tower of Bones oh
53:09
I mean it would be a giant Tower of bones but it would be cozy to me I just think you could like you know dress it
53:15
up with a nice pink mushroom top on the on the tower of Bones have like you know some some gay dressed uh bone servants I
53:24
I you know we'll Workshop it but will will the bone servants have like
53:29
bow ties and little jackets some kind of hat sometime of the
53:35
leader the leader has a monacle the leader of the bones of the of the bone servants uh but and when he goes bone
53:41
storm he's like I must say bone storm uh but anyway I think we've covered two
53:47
questions so that's cool that's that's better than we usually get we did some questions yep uh so at this point I
53:54
guess I'm going to do that thing where I say blizzard watch is brought to you by patreon um if you have any questions for
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got a Tavern watch recording coming up in March so good time to send questions in for that uh yeah this has been the
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blizzard watch podcast thank you so much to Corey for being here with us and and keeping us absolutely not even remotely
54:26
keeping us on track um oh no I'm very much guy yeah you keep leaving the back
54:34
door open and like a stray cat I keep wandering in well to be fair my my you know to be fair yeah we we need a stray
54:40
cat to wander in otherwise it's just gonna be me and Joe trying to one up each other on obscure 80s
54:48
songs mention the touch I I can't believe no it's I was going to because
54:53
I'm a huge Transformers freak I have a playlist for this friends and if you want it I will share it with you but I
54:59
legitimately have a songs to drive fast to playlist on Spotify yeah I believe
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you that's a that's a dangerous playlist it could get very expensive yes but um
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yeah Joe Liz also thank you guys for being here thank you to everyone listening for being here because
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otherwise this just be me sitting in my office kind of talking to myself for an hour and a half and I'm not above doing
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that but it's sad and this isn't sad because it's a podcast and we're all having a good good time hopefully So
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yeah thank you guys all so much thank you to everyone involved and we will be back next week
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