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This week's Blizzard Watch Podcast kicks off with the new hotness -- or maybe old hotness. Horrific Visions return this week in World of Warcraft. There are head enchants to collect, but no keys, which is great news for people who did these back in the day. The new player housing preview from a smattering of other content creators with an emphasis on neighborhoods has us revisiting the possibility of a player housing HOA. Plus, which Blizzard character would make the best WWE wrestler? One thing's for sure -- nobody's breaking kayfabe in this match.
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hi everybody and welcome to the Blizzard Watch podcast uh this is the show where we talk about Blizzard entertainment and
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its many games and also sometimes other things uh which will be happening this week as well uh besides myself uh for
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sure we're going to have my amazing co-hosts Liz Harour and Joe Perez here uh how how are we we think Cory's going
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to try and make it or is he just not able no he's not there's a question mark there so now we know Cory's not here so
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you guys won't find out he swears in French really well um h I was I was
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shocked i was straight up shocked i've not seen that word used in in weeks months there there's a there's a I have
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a flashback for those of you I I recorded a bonus episode of Lore Watch that is we don't I don't know when it's
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going to release or when I'm going to get it to to uh Liz and and Dan for for
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release but it's my original lore podcast crew from For the Lore and Roger
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who is a long-term friend of mine is French Canadian and every time somebody swears in French I immediately hear it
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in his voice echoing like through my headphones because it's just it's
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ingrained that that accent and yes if Corey would do that live I would be very very pleased and giggle probably
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uncontrollably for like 20 minutes whereas I can't do it at all so I'm not going to try but we have lots of things to talk about so first up the horrific
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visions they're back on the mysterious future day of May 20th which is technically as we're talking yeah yeah
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they're here they're here they're here visions are here has anyone got to run them yet cuz I have not cuz I had to go
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to the doctor i I have not yet but uh I I actually I actually ran them to a few
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today i ran three or four before uh podcast uh so like I mean what would you
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like to know uh how much have they changed are they pretty much the same so a lot of it is the same the difference
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is that you don't have the cloak anymore so you have a track in which you
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essentially earn uh curios you spend the curios to get you convert the curios
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into another currency that you then use to buy talent points on this tree that do things like the cloak used to do like
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reduce the amount of sanity you take or give you access to resurrection or the the purity orbs uh make you take less
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damage make you do more damage things like that uh so that that's there and
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replacing it you can go in with Siridomi which is one of the bronze dragon
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flights she makes a construct and goes with you uh they can take on any role very similar to what Bran does in Delves
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uh so it can take a healer tank uh can take that DPS role um the interesting
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thing about the Go ahead i think I know what you're going to say but go ahead i I have a question and I have heard that bringing Sidori with you actually gives
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the mobs in there a big buff because it's like you've gone from being one player to being two players essentially
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and what I've heard is that it's actually not worth bringing her because of how much she increases the difficulty
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did you see this in action nope not like I brought her along with me on two runs with my paladin and noticed absolutely
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zero difference between whether she was there or whether she's not so I it may very well depend on the person's eye
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level so if you are a lower eye level or depending on what class you are and what
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role you take there may very well be an element to that because we saw that with
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delves with Bran right like when when delves first released and I complain about this on my shaman going into a
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delve with Bran was just death like he could do nothing for me it was he might
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as well just not have been there uh but on my paladin he's fine right and they I
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think they fix his AI and they fix a bunch of stuff and I think they may have learned from that because Siridomi was fine like I had her as a healer I had
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her as a tank and I had her as a DPS as a DPS she's a rogue she vanishes uh and
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just winds up like disappearing and like coming back and like murderating something for you uh tank actually holds
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aggro pretty well um I was still able to snap aggro from her but I'm also in the
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660s so I don't know how that scales with what she's at uh and then as a
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healer she was perfectly adequate um am I the only one who's like you know is is
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it just me or does story dormi end up having to do a lot of the actual work of the bronze dragon flight while those
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dormu sitting around mop moping about time and so like yeah is someone going to do Oh yes I have to actually do
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things okay yeah sure why not more or less meanwhile I'm not there but
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whatever meanwhile Chromy's in the background mostly making trouble yeah yeah but she's She tries but you know
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yeah that's true i mean I accept Chromy for whatever Chromy wants to be in do but Okay can you tell a lot of making
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trouble yeah can you tell us about the head enchants what are those up to there so the head knows those were going to be
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there yeah the head enchants are essentially you can get them very early you just have to earn um 10 of the black
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blood samples because that's what essentially the the storyline behind it is that like everybody predicted from
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the beginning the black blood is all god blood woo um yeah I cannot see anything
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they put in game that every single person has gotten right more than that uh but you get 10 samples of it and if
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you're doing an average quick run you're going to get about three maybe four uh at first as you go through and and can
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defeat some of the sub bosses before defeating Yria um and you take 10 of
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those and it unlocks the ability to get you your first head enchant which are very similar to ones we've seen before
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whether it's uh you know the infinite stars one reminded me very much of that armor thing yes yeah and for for those
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you don't they do different effects based off of whatever you choose so like you're essentially putting a rune or head enchant like if you saw it last
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tier during dragon flight or two tiers ago during dragon flight where you got the head enchant and that gave you that
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buff whether you're a healer a DPS or a tank that's kind of what these are except you choose what it
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is um and it will only work during season two I believe uh so I don't know
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they never mentioned anything about carrying it forward but it's a little bit of a power bump and it's a little bit of a power power borrowed power uh
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Mhm but it's uh warbound so once you get
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it on one character you can send it to others or put it into your bank so that other characters can get it so you don't
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have to run the horrific visions on every single tune you have which I think is really really nice because the
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original one if you wanted rewards from it you were running it on all of your tunes to get here not so much here you
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can just pick one and you can just have them be your horrific vision person and
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go through and just earn all the stuff and then buy what you need and send it to where you need to go and then there's
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also a vendor that gives you gear so there's three tiers of gear there is uh
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essentially the equivalent of LFR normal heroic uh t three tiers of gear that you
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can buy with your displaced corrupted momentos uh with the highest tier of them being available after you complete
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uh what is essentially a five key dungeon so for those of you that don't know the horrific visions or weren't
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around for the first time in this particular case we're going through either Stormwind or Ogmar there is a
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main person that you have to fight or a main boss uh if you're alliance it's yria i forgot who it I think it's thr
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maybe if you are uh th I haven't done th I haven't done them in a while so I
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apologize the the horde side uh and then there's four sub bosses spread
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throughout the map and when you start you can get to one of them when you kill them or two of them uh and they're
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spread in different sections and they're noted by not having the exaggerated tentacle thing around them on the map
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they just look like normal tentacle things around them uh you go and kill them and as you kill them it unlocks
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more of the ability to go to the other sub bosses if you kill all four sub bosses and the main boss that's a five a
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five thing run right essentially you get all five of them uh then there's also uh the difficulty thing called masks and
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masks is a returning mechanic where you essentially increase your difficulty to
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earn higher rewards and the last tier of stuff that you can buy with momentos requires you to do a five mask run so
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five of these things uh enacted at the same time whether it's reducing your maximum sanity by 50% uh additional ads
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spawn when you're below 50% of your sanity uh you're whether it's each area
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consists of two different madnesses instead of one and I'm sorry I'm jumping around a little bit about around the
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place u madnesses are things that afflict you as you're going through it so as you go to different sections
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you'll have a different debuff um it could be something like oh it's sp it makes you less powerful you do less
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damage take more damage until you stand into a a inky black puddle of black blood and then it powers you up uh for a
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few seconds while you go and do the thing uh burning feet where like your feet will literally just poop out a
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flame puddle right below you uh and knock you back which can be dangerous and can do some pretty decent ticking
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damage if you don't have damage reduction uh leaden feet where if you move too much if you keep moving you get
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slower and slower and slower until you basically stop so one of the masks actually makes two of those active at
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the same time in each section um one that gives vengeance if you kill a mob like all other nearby mobs get
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buffed for a certain period of time 20 seconds it's it's but she killed their friend yeah more or less it's this weird
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intersection between scenario and mythic plus dungeon which I think is kind of cool but yes so that's the short version
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i could keep going on about it but it's fun it's I don't know that it's multiplayer content if you can still do
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it with friends you used to be able to do it with friends uh but it's a nice little in between thing to earn some
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rewards and the like you can earn uh mounts and armor and weapons and
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transmogs so there's a lot of cool stuff that you can do there it doesn't take a whole lot of time to go through a horrific uh vision 10 minutes 15 minutes
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you can go through a whole five stack maybe a half hour if you're being really really cautious it's not bad it's not
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bad at all uh and it's a nice little ask question side side side thing yeah go ahead keys you don't need them anymore
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yeah I felt like everyone would want to know that it's It's actually listed right here but I felt like I had to just
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throw it in there i had meant to say that and then completely forgot because of all the There's so much here that you
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that if you haven't done them before to like cover but yeah you used to have to have keys to unlock chests to get stuff
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you don't need keys anymore it's just you do the thing you get the thing okay the next thing on our list of things to
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discuss is well I don't know if you guys know PAX had a little preview uh this week and it it's there's a lot of people
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there at PAX who are talking about player housing and we have learned in
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the I I'm assuming you wrote this one Liz because it feels very much like your phrasing we have learned a lot and also
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very little about player housing this week so let's talk about what we have
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learned uh I I was skimming over the article um just so I would have things to talk about and we've definitely got a
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sign that they're they're taking that neighborhood thing seriously although we don't know much about what it's going to do uh either Liz you want to talk about
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neighborhoods a little like they come with an HOA and they don't come with there are no HOAs that's a lie i cannot have corpses
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on my on my front lawn liz I'm going to be building so many corpse houses near you man there there may be you know
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players enforcing or attempting to enforce rules but there is not going to be any sort of formal HOA but you know
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how emergent game play is sometimes even if the game developer doesn't do it it
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happens ex except that we we did find out that the neighborhoods are going to be themed and you can't deviate from
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that theme you can do lawn decoration but you like if it's Alliance it's Alliance if it's Horde it's Horde and
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it's one flavor am I wrong about that yeah we did actually that is here I think although it doesn't actually say
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that it's specifically what flavor it's going to be go ahead i mean we did learn that it's like your neighborhood is in a
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place you know so there are locations that are kind of horde themed there are locations that are more Alliance themed
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so I think your neighborhood is going to kind of be that theme but we don't see
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the reason I said we learned a lot and we didn't learn much is that a bunch of creators got hands-on this further
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question sort of stuff yeah yeah it so a lot of people got previews and they were
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not allowed to share footage from what they were doing and there were there were a lot of things they weren't allowed to share so they got to see
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things and talk about things but there's a lot of things they didn't say and we
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didn't see any of their creations so we we saw them talking a lot about these
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things and there were some developer interviews but yeah we're I would say we're mostly getting vibes about player
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housing right now we're getting impressions and uh feelings and descriptions and not we don't have our
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hands on it you know it's players don't have their hands on it it's not it's not on the PTR so there's that's exactly as
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Matt said we have more questions now um well just I did want to mention that one
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of the things I thought was really cool uh talking about the neighborhoods and how they the work and the loading screens and so forth is that uh the
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point you made in the article that if you have the loading screen you can basically TARDIS out your house like
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your house can be super huge on the inside and you know small on the outside
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so if you want to like I I personally don't think I'd want to put skulls and and corpses and all sorts of horrible
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stuff on the outside of my house because like the Adams family once said you know you want it to be you want your home to
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be horrible but it's your you know horrible in yours i don't necessarily want to share it my horribleness with
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people but I definitely want to have it in my house i invite you into my house i want you to see it i I want to do the
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homage to Rainer Road yeah I I do think that Rainbow Road definitely is something that we should
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be able to recreate some way but I you could the thing about that is you could do it in your house now you could have
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that be your house yeah you can do jumping puzzle stuff but I'll let I've talked a lot so I'm going to shut up and
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let this go i'm sorry no no that's I I enjoy it when we have multiple voices
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talking about things and enthusiasm i think we're all enthusiastic about player housing so yes I don't know how
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much control you're actually going to have over the outside of your house but inside your house it sounds you you do
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what you want you know you can place things you can make you can make jumping puzzles and things of that nature you
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can place up to 10,000 items in your house and uh apparently no one has
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gotten up to that limit yet uh they've they've done some Yeah the size of the
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rooms that you can make like you can make quarters you can make rooms estimated to be 800 yards long that's
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pretty Did they you know this that's like you just build a room that's you know this is my crazy room i mean did
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they actually confirm that though because when they did the preview there were when they when they were
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interviewing the content or the content creators were interviewing them um and shout out to like folks like Talison and
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Evitel um they were saying that there are uh preset layouts that you can
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choose from but they didn't say anything about the at least at that time unless they really something different that
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said you could have that much space like 800 yards you can do a lot with the inside that was made by one of the other
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people but I don't know which one off the top of my head because Yeah um so there are pre-made houses like if
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you don't want to go in and create a house from scratch there are going to be pre-made houses that you can work with so but it does also sound like if you
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want to make your own house if you want to make a house that is all yours you can do that um so yes I for I also
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forget which which interview this was in but there were part of it was the break flip some of this comes from the break
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interview which is in French guys so um I'm doing my best you got to do some
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work there you got to do some work there it's like and it's arising with you know dangerous infants okay
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i'm going to have to like stop and think harder about this guys but I promise you they did talk about it there's a lot of
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you know stuff in here creative you know creative liberty and but you know and
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then I don't know what this one is but with such excitement okay good yeah I figured that one out uh again my French
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not great i did I did not get bilingual when I got up here you don't automatically get bilingualism when you
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come when you move to can become a citizen unfortunately for me but this does seem to be saying that you're going
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to have the ability to customize rooms it I'm not getting the the yards thing
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out but the first thing is you know yeah number of rooms is one of the things
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posting here so yeah you there you will have the ability to customize uh but I I
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I don't know h how far that's going to go because once again as Liz said you know this just raises further questions
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yeah it is well but I do they're going to have 50 lots each for the each neighborhood which is also interesting i
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did not know that yeah neighborhoods are going to be a fixed size um so that that
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will be interesting and also you will only be able to have one horde house and one alliance house I believe yeah so you
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cannot go and make infinite houses but you can have a couple of houses if you so desire they've learned to styy me
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well they they they're going to have to they're already letting you place like 10,000 things right like Oh yeah
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absolutely i'm not saying there has to be a limit yeah there is only so much
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space you know digital space included you can only go so far before you start
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crashing the servers which is you know players are immediately going to try because you're you've got this space
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where you can be just completely creative you can dye your furniture you can uh I assume you'll be able to make a
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reindeer road inside your house you can uh combine elements into new things
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there was talk in one of the interviews about someone at the preview was uh made something where they had you know you
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can get an enixia head but they like put it on a spit that that turned it like it
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was being cooked so by combining different elements in different ways so
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this sounds like an absolute playground of creativity and I think it's great but
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there's still so many details we don't know because we didn't see any of this ourselves all we're getting is creators
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who are explaining what they saw and that's it all it all just makes me want
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I want to see more okay when can I see more yeah when can we actually look at this thing it is one of those things
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where you you get the more people tell you about it the less you actually know about it but the more you want to um
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yeah I I I I do very much want to One of the things they said here is that that
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right now it's going to be sanctuaries but they are open to the possibility of letting players make fighting arenas in
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their houses yeah so like the outside the outside world is completely safe but
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maybe in your house if you wanted to have a a a fighting pit you could decide
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to do that so you have full control inside your house but the neighborhood is a safe space a sanctuary
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blizzard has also Oh go ahead blizzard has also said this may have been exactly what you were about to say
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that there aren't going to be auction houses or banks or things of that nature they do not want to make the mistake
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they made with garrisons and put everything you might ever need to do inside a neighborhood so that you always
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stay in your neighborhood that's a good move to me um if you want to keep cities working then yeah and neighborhoods are
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going to be a social space though and this is something we have heard about
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but again not heard all the details about uh I mean there are questions about whether we might have community
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spaces can someone run a tavern does someone have to make their house into a tavern that is then the community tavern
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yeah that seems like what they're going for I think mhm which I think makes sense honestly like the whole idea of
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here's your neighborhood make of it what you will like that's how it should be at least in my opinion I I am I am so
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excited to see what our guild does with this because it's going to be a horror show you know it's I it's but it's going
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to be a great horror show because we spend so much time together in game you know we go out we do dungeons we do
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raids we hang out and chat but this This is a different kind of hanging out in
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game where you could hang out and be like "Hey come over to my house and look at this cool thing I made." Also our
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peers are going to be over the moon we have with this i think I'm telling you guys right now absolutely what the thing
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I'm thinking about doing so much is basically what I did in Fallout 4 where I'm going to have armories everywhere in
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my house there's going to be weapons on every everything I can put them on i'm going to have like display cases with
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like here's my first set of armor ever that's that's a bunch of greens yes I got to solve a rock like you know just I
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am going to go nuts on my first house too got if you can build those giant hallways that like you know like 800
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yards from end to end there's going to be nothing but suits of armor along them um yeah absolutely loving this idea just
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just oh yes this is this this will get me into like an almost crazed obsession
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and I I'm looking forward to my crazed obsession see one of the things I loved about Fallout 4 was housing you can
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build your own houses you can make these spaces yours you can build crazy things but it also made me a little bit insane
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trying to like perfectly line up fences and walls and how Yeah and how
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everything in Fallout 4 is post-apocalyptic and broken so it's like you couldn't you really had to work if
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you wanted to fix up your house yeah like you'd have to use the Fallout set and there were like a few pieces that
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like kind of looked like concrete and it you would like have to put better walls on top of the existing walls so it
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looked like all of a sudden there was a whole wall there there's it's a whole thing trying to make a nice little
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neighborhood in Fallout 4 but uh here you can just you can make your dream house i think that's really what it
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sounds like and I am looking forward to this so much this is this is house transmog this is transmog to the next
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level i am in have to look for a guild all right but that's that's pretty much
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covers that little bit which I think we're all very excited about but we didn't really find like it covers it and
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it also doesn't cover it and it's also Yeah what more is there to say because it's it's vibes they're they're good
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vibes this sounds great we still haven't seen a lot oh I'm Joe might recognize what was what was the saying is like at
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some point like the the Mets in the 50s at some point we're going to actually have to sell some some sizzle with this
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steak yeah or something like that yeah um but we should talk about Battle for Azeroth time walking because it's coming
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in patch 11.1.7 and we're going to have a bunch of new rewards uh there's going to be like a little mini mini dinosaur uh
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which is just making me die inside uh it's Littlefoot from Land Before Time as
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a Wow pet they they they didn't call it Littlefoot but I'm calling it Littlefoot it's a tiny It's a tiny It's It's a
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little tiny Brontosaurus yeah um the Brutus and and Wow are already cute
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despite being gigantic monsters so I'm super excited uh to see the baby version
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as an actual pet um possibly more excited than I should be he's a and he's
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a cute little dinosaur and he's not like the Brutusaurs are like spiky and kind of intimidating but he's just small and
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adorable so I I don't always keep up with the time walking weeks but you know
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I I need this guy he's He's named Little Dasty and uh Yeah yeah i'm There's a lot
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of things but I'm just interested in having a baby dinosaur yeah and I cannot blame you um
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I still want there to be like more dinosaur mounts although I do did remember someone asked a question about
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that and was like you know how come we don't have much dinosaur mounts and like we have 60 of them we do have Yeah and I
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didn't even count pterodaxes or whatever if you count pterodaxes then it went up to like almost 80 uh but but at the same
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time you know there are no devil sore mounts mhm and and that seems wrong to
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me like you should be able to there's several devils that you can get and tame them as pets they should drop a mount
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version of themselves uh the one that really comes to mind is the one from uh Siege Vorgmar that everybody Th was his
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name th his name is Th you're play a hunter Joe you know this i believe that is correct it's been a while sorry yeah
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but you know Th should drop a mount that is just Th I don't get this it's like
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this is simple if you can make this thing into a battlehungry monster that kills things for you you should be able
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to ride one into battle i I just I I feel this is necessary regardless
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anything where another dinosaur comes in in any form I am down for uh and this this thing is just adorable because it
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is just adorable i I cannot I cannot even with this um do we have dragon flight time walking
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yet no no i We are just getting up to Battle for Azeroth so we're you know
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we've run a few expansions so we don't have Yeah we don't have Shadow uh Shadowlands either that would that would
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actually make me happy i' I'd like to see Shadowlands although some of those dungeons were really hard but at the same time I enjoy I miss getting to tank
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those which is weird uh I don't usually miss tanking things but uh yeah that's that's it for Battle for Azeroth time
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walking um we're going to mention some Overwatch stuff here uh mostly we're going to look at Joe a lot I figure talk
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to me about the Street Fighter collaboration because I didn't know that existed until just now yeah it's brand
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new Street Fighter collab so please tell me about it i mean it's basically skins
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right uh so it's they're really good skins so you're going to have like things like you're going to have your
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Ryu skins uh Hanzo's going to be Ryu juno is going to be Chun Lee widowmaker is going to be Cammy cuz of course she
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is kyico is going to be Jury soldier 76 is going to be Guile because of course
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sigma will be Embisen of course uh Winston as Blanca and Zenyatta as Dalim
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uh yeah that's I mean that's really it most of the collabs that you see for Overwatch 2 they're skins uh they're
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really good skins they're really really cool but they're skins so okay i'm sorry
27:54
the Wilson is Blanca one is terrifying like my god it doesn't look it does not look like Blanca as far as I'm concerned
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it's It is the worst of the skins in my opinion like the Bridmaker Cammy is
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pretty spot-on it's the jury is really really good too it's basically just jury
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yeah and so for for that matter the um Hanzo is Rayu he's beardy Rayu even
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so he's later Rayu and he really works well that's because it's it's Street Fighter 6 right so Street Fighter 6 is the latest one and these are all skins
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or or based off of Street Fighter 6 so like Ryu when you go and train with him in Street Fighter 6 he's the old gristle
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veteran with the beard so yeah yeah yeah soldier 76 is fine but I do think
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you're right about the Winston one like I don't I don't know what you guys were doing um also wow I wasn't expecting an
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MB bison skin that's that's kind of nuts but you know but it works because again
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his character already had that frame for it right yeah absolutely he does much of the same stuff so yeah but I I to on the
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one hand I get why why you're saying it's just skins because it is just skins i mean let's let's just not be let's not
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try to lie here let's not pretend we're getting anything other than skins it's certainly not going to give us a
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one-on-one fighting mode and I'm looking at you now Blizzard think about giving it a
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one-on-one fighting mode blizzard come on you know how popular this would be my
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god if Blizzard did that you know a one v one fighting game uhh I'm getting a
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little dizzy here but regardless yeah I'm I'm super excited about it i think it looks cool but at the same time I
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totally get you right yeah I'm not trying to downplay it either but go ahead Liz sorry it's the same thing we're seeing in Diablo I with collabs
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it's uh you know we've got our current collab and it's like it's a bunch of skins you can buy and a few things you can earn on a battle pass i got to be
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honest I I'm going to since you mentioned that I have to be honest here i I did get some of the the the collab
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for the most recent one and I don't I don't regret it but at the same time
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every time I realize that I have spent the amount of money I spent to get the
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skin for armor I'm never going to wear like I'll use that sword i will use that
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sword all the time but I'm never gonna wear any of that armor because because
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it looks simultaneously pretty accurate to the anime and yet not at all right
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for Diablo like Joe have you seen this skin i have yeah like the armor do you
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can concur with me that it looks kind of like it looks anime accurate but also wrong it's very very good but I don't it
30:38
it doesn't feel Diablo and that nose thing we're not talking about that we're done nope we're moving on
30:46
uh let's talk about the midseason match yeah go ahead for reference for people who are listening we are talking about
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Diablo I's Berserk collab which is ongoing and is a little weird it's not
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It's not that it's bad but it's We're moving on we're moving on yeah we're not going to talk about that thing uh
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mid-season patch with stadium balance changes and a new rotation into Overwatch Classic um
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what's that going on with Overwatch Classic now the the Overwatch Classic thing i I was reading this headline i
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was what huh because it's Overwatch Classic October 2020 and I I read it
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took me a while it which is just a version of Overwatch that uses the October 2020
31:35
patch so it's it's it goes it sort of rolls things back to that balance it's a
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6v6 game mode and they have been Overwatch classic is a kind of a thing
31:47
and kind of not a thing if that makes sense it's like we look at World of Warcraft and you have World of Warcraft
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Classic which is a totally different game mode and is ongoing you can always log on to WoW Classic and you can log on
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to many variations of WoW Classic it is infinite but Overwatch Classic is just
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it's it's a single mode and it sort of rotates it's a kind of like maybe you
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could tell me Joe like an arcade mode that just it has Yeah it shows up and then it goes so they have been rotating
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in and out different versions of a classic yeah which is it feels like a tease like I I think a lot of people
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would probably come back and play the game if that was a more permanent thing because a lot of people miss that
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version of it it seems to be wildly popular when it's available but it's
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I don't know i don't want to see sound like I'm talking bad about the game but it's a criticism that I think is is
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levied against it overwatch 2 fell short of what it promised and lost a lot of
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its charm that Overwatch one had and so now with them bringing back stuff like essentially Overwatch one inside of
32:59
Overwatch 2 I think they fear that if they were to make it a more permanent thing that the regular version of
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Overwatch 2 would just never get played and of course the regular version is the one with the battle pass which is battle
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pass and skin sales are kind of their only monetization uh so I still think they should just you
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know take the World of Warcraft approach and have your Overwatch classic as just an ongoing game mode and if you need to
33:26
figure out some monetization to support that I understand games require a lot of resources they require development time
33:33
they require all of this stuff but figure out how to make that work and have an Overwatch classic all the time
33:40
and maybe you can do it like uh like WoW has been doing where you maybe have your
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you could have different patches and different segments of the game available at different times you know here's a
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time stamp here here's a time stamp here you can play your different flavors of Overwatch so you know I think I think
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just keep it around people enjoy playing it keep it around i mean right now it's
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essentially feels an awful lot like Plunderstorm does h Yeah yeah something that comes and goes yeah but uh we
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should watch it briefly we've We got just enough news here on Diablo I to tell you about it and then not much else
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yeah yeah but we're going to tell you about it because it's happening this week um Diablo 4 is going to get a
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campfire chat this week um do we know what day like is it gonna be Thursday Friday it's on It is on Thursday but
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most people do not listen to the podcast until Friday you probably won't even hear us that's That statistic is
34:36
significant yeah you probably will already know all about it by the time you hear this podcast telling you it's
34:42
going to be it's going to be happening we will be talking about it next week but we're going to tell you now that it's happening just so just for the few
34:49
people who are listening to us live or streaming or who will get us the podcast early so you guys know um plus you know
34:56
I'm curious what you can do if if you are hyped about Diablo 4 I I don't know what percentage the audience that may be
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cuz that could just be an echo of my own tiredness with the battle pass grind but
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uh we will have some news next week about the next patch yeah at least we'll know what 2 three
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2.3.0 the PTR like when is it going to come what are we going to do but we'll find out hopefully
35:24
i actually have a question for both of you it kind of related to this Diablo patch when game companies announce
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patches but I feel particularly this way about Diablo they'll announce the next patch and maybe it's not coming out for
35:37
a while and I'll be like "Oh this this just completely takes the winds out of my sales and I now I just want to play
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the new thing i don't want to play this thing." And World of Warcraft has gotten very I want to say aggressive but that's
35:51
not quite the right word uh very serious about keeping up a significant patch cadence and you know always having
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something on the horizon and as soon as one patch rolls out we're looking at the PTR for the next patch do either of you
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find that does does knowing about the next patch so
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uh such significant details about the next patch does it diminish your enthusiasm for the game for a game right
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now no not really depends on the game yeah I guess yeah probably like it
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doesn't really affect my my desire to play the game i may look forward to something in the future but I'm also a
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person that outside of this podcast I generally don't care about patch notes right like I I report on it i don't
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generally dwell on it like I used to like I used to be really about it and now it's just like I'm just having fun
36:41
like I don't I I log in I play the game when I have new stuff to do I log in I
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enjoy it or I don't and I move on with my life so it doesn't it doesn't really affect my my enjoyment of the game as
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much at least in terms of like World of Warcraft diablo on the other hand I just don't care like it's it
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sounds weird to say it like that like I love Diablo and I like Diablo I as a game but their patches and content
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updates aren't substantial enough for me they don't do what I wanted Diablo to do
37:14
they don't make me want to keep playing the game and I've talked about this before the seasonal model just makes me
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not want to play seasons i'll play when expansions come out i'll play through the story lines i'll play through stuff
37:26
like that because that's the stuff I enjoy but I don't really care about any of the
37:31
other patch stuff so it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the game and there's nothing that really like makes me excited or makes me fatigued because
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I'm already fatigued from that game and then Matt Matt I'll let you you answer oh I like the thing is I like playing uh
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both D3 and D4 just as themselves so I I still play my eternal characters in D4
37:50
so for me knowing what's coming doesn't do anything to me there i I I I will be
37:56
happy to get it when it comes but I'm not because I don't I will play seasonal
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characters but they're not my focus and I don't feel that like you one of the thing I'll be upfront the thing that
38:07
merely bugs me is that I can't take my character and set them back to level one
38:13
and do the season like I I used to do that all the time in Diablo II like I had one character that
38:20
was just my season guy and and well girl it was a it was a lady barbarian because why would you play the dude um but I
38:27
would play her through it over and over again every time the season rolled around the new season level one again
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and it didn't bother me because of partially because adventure mode was there so I didn't ever have to feel like
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oh I have to go do the same stuff again um I have to start over i've lost you
38:47
know all the stuff I was doing i don't care about about character power being lost that doesn't bother me i don't like
38:55
feeling like the story is gone but with Diablo II you could go redo the story
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whenever you wanted to anyway so it didn't matter um I feel like that's something that the seasons in Diablo I
39:08
have failed to do and that's why I don't like them as much but I still like the Diablo I as a game i still enjoy playing
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it now for WoW because WoW is a is a WoW is a game where and I I know that you've
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said this on more than one occasion is Diablo Diablo 4 is a game where I can still just mostly play by myself wow
39:27
requires people what WoW is selling you isn't really the game it's the people
39:33
it's the chance to make friends with them it's the chance like right now I think one of the reasons that I've I've disconnected from WoW was because my
39:40
wife was sick for so long like I I remember talking to my my doctor today about it he was like you know you've been under a lot of stress i was like
39:46
yeah you know my wife was sick for so long i I couldn't commit to to Wow yeah
39:52
you know I I I'd love to be playing with the friends I made but I I just couldn't commit to it and so whenever a patch
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notes come out it they almost serve to like prevent me from a listening to that
40:03
voice in my head telling me "Oh I should get back into the game because there's always a new catch-up mechanic along the
40:09
way we're going to have new things you can do this you can do It's like so I should should I come here and struggle
40:17
or should I wait till the new reset where I'll be able to get there much faster and the gear will be better like
40:22
it it almost stops me from coming back to play WoW more i still have characters
40:27
I play it but I almost almost always level alts nowadays like I'll I'll spend a few hours playing a Well I'll be up
40:34
front it's a warrior come on but I'll play like a warrior alt for a few levels uh on a server where nobody knows me and
40:40
I'll just solo my way through it and yeah I think that that is a case of the
40:46
patch notes make me be like okay um I really shouldn't get too involved almost
40:51
until the last patch like I I've done that on like the past couple of expansions now where I almost I ride it
40:58
to the last patch and then I come back and play the last patch because nothing else is coming for a
41:03
while whereas so yeah I think that in WoW I do get that way which is weird but also understandable when you Joe and I
41:10
are completely different about this but that's not surprising when you know Joe and I uh we approach a lot of things the
41:16
same but we also approach a lot of things differently um in terms of the story of the seasons in Diablo I do
41:23
think that they have not done what I wanted either and I definitely think that that's a problem but yeah in
41:29
general to a certain degree knowing too much about what's coming isn't great like almost knowing well this is going
41:35
to happen you're like oh that's cool but if you know everything about it then you're like yeah whatever I don't know
41:41
that I I do feel it depends on the game for me yeah like I don't I don't mind it in World of Warcraft but in Diablo I
41:48
usually feel like one of these announcements I'm kind of like okay maybe I'll play less until the patch
41:53
comes out and I haven't been playing a lot of Diablo I lately anyway because I've been playing since launch I've been
42:01
playing in every season and you getting up to max level and collecting my paragon points and gearing up and then
42:08
doing it all over again and I'm kind of I'm kind of tired i'm kind of tired it is a lot of grinding it's a lot of
42:14
grinding and seasons as you were just saying seasons don't offer a whole lot that's new they don't offer as much as I
42:20
was hoping they would when Blizzard was selling the game to us yeah I would agree all right um so we got we we
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that's crossed out so we'll talk about that next time uh we got a couple of things that are not Blizzard related but
42:33
I I wanted to talk about them um the first one is that the Warhammer Skulls event is going to be on May 22nd I think
42:40
i'm positive it's May 22nd but I then realized Joe is here and he knows more about it than me so you can almost
42:46
certainly tell me I'm wrong uh you know you're and one of the things of of the many
42:51
things coming on the Skulls event uh Alcat Games put out Rogue Trader which
42:57
was their their CRPG go ahead let's back it up what is the Warhammer Skulls event
43:02
which is their it's the festival of video games based around the Warcraft the Warhammer IPs so yeah that's make
43:10
sure that's clear before we go further now go ahead yeah it's basically like a big hey look at this stuff and we don't
43:17
know what they're going to be showing because it that's why you have an event to show us these things uh Warhammer has
43:23
Games Workshop has always been pretty smart about avoiding what what I think
43:28
we can all agree is it's the we're going to tell you about a preview we're going
43:34
to do later that's not really Games Workshop style when they when they do an announcement it's an announcement of a
43:40
thing it's not an announcement of an announcement they're not saying they've never done it i'm just saying they're they're more circumspected in that way
43:47
but we we do know sorry go ahead you go first man i I'll talk about the thing
43:52
later we know what at least some of it is going to be centered around at least
43:57
some of the games and IPs so like there's going to be something related to Total Warhammer Total War Warhammer 3
44:05
something related to Space Marine 2 people are speculating that it'll be likely an expansion uh Warhammer Battle
44:11
Sector Warhammer Titanicus which I believe is one of their mobile games bloodbull 3 which is a very strange game
44:20
which I don't know that we have time to talk about but I have a lovehate relationship with it uh the Warp Forge
44:27
the card game Dark Tide and Rogue Trader are all items that fall under this and
44:34
yeah and Rogue Trader we know for sure is already announced an expansion before now yes and and that's what makes this
44:41
interesting because um I don't know if they've done this to other people i think a few they have actually done this to several people but one of the people
44:48
I like to watch uh is a guy called Mortis calls his channel Mortismal Gaming and he got from Alcat this weird
44:55
little wooden device that you can basically unlock by solving like word
45:01
puzzles with it and it reveals a document that he he described it as
45:07
somewhat threatening yeah yeah it it wasn't intended to be threatening it's intended to sound like how people talk
45:14
in in Warhammer Imperium in the Imperium which is friend which is threatening you know that's how the whole thing sounds
45:20
but it talks about the I want to say the night guard but I can't remember if that's what they're called believe i was so excited yeah it talks about the night
45:28
guard it and there's some there's some speculation that could be another expansion they haven't even put out the
45:33
new expansion yet but they could be announcing another expansion because it's this wasn't Games Workshop who sent
45:39
this out this was Alcat so it's got to be something for the Skulls event yeah yeah and I will say that even though it
45:46
is from Owlcat they definitely have Games Workshop's blessing on it one thing that Oh yeah absolutely i'm just saying that it's not specific it's not a
45:52
different game yeah from a different company it's from Alcat because Alcat's the one who sent it out the the one
45:58
thing I would like to note is there I I find this amusing when they do this with the Skulls event because they do this
46:03
with their other releases they don't do like oh we're going to announce an announcement like you just said but they
46:08
will do teasers and the way that they do teasers is they do very cryptic messaging or what they call the rumor
46:14
engine where they'll put a a very like if they're releasing a new model let's say they'll release a very specific
46:22
zoomed-in section of one tiny piece of the model and in some cases people have
46:28
gotten it absolutely correct like when Fulgrim released uh it was one of those things where like people saw it and like
46:34
that's Fulgrim uh but they do that with their games as well when they were doing
46:39
uh bulk gun uh which is the boomer shooter which is absolutely phenomenal
46:44
and I believe it's still on uh I believe it's still on game pass if
46:49
it is it is put new game on game pass in fact but you should absolutely play it
46:55
but when they were teasing it they released like this low poly version of like the zoomed in section of a
47:01
chainsord and then next thing you know bulk gun was announced or you know the
47:06
they had a weird like orc fighter fighter jet game and they released like a image that was like a zoomed-in
47:13
portion of an orc fighter bama like they do stuff like that that get you interested without like oh we're going
47:19
to do an event about doing an event about doing an event so and they do that here and I'm really excited to see
47:24
what's coming out because again we have ideas but I want to see it yeah absolutely um if it is one of the
47:31
speculations uh has been out there that it's a completely different game uh that's about the night guard another
47:38
speculation is it going to be expansion about the night guard and um I do have to mention vermin tide 2 because that's
47:44
a that's not a 40k game that's just straight up Warhammer yeah it's and that's also coming that's also on game
47:49
pass right now there is some speculation that Alcat is being handed like some of the reigns to Vermentide in terms of
47:56
doing a related game not doing Vermentide itself but doing a game set in Warhammer itself yeah and to be clear
48:02
Vermentide is like your Left for Dead style game uh just done with uh the the
48:09
skin of Warhammer Fantasy on top of it so uh and then I believe it was what Fat
48:16
Shark made the Dark Tide uh yes that's correct and so like and Dark Side 2 is
48:22
out now I think yes so I'm interested to see what happens and if Alcat gets their
48:28
hands on it I'd love to see what they do with the fantasy setting uh but I do want to move on to one last thing before we you know we're getting close to the
48:34
end of the show and this is something I really wanted to talk about cuz Doom Doom: The Dark Ages came out last week
48:40
and there's been a lot of talk back and forth about the thing um it hit 3 million players in a week so I'm not one
48:46
of the people who says that this game is drowning uh people have been like "It's drowning it doesn't have a lot of Steam
48:51
hits." It's like "It doesn't have Steam hits cuz it's on Game Pass." Yeah people are playing it on Game Pass because of a day one release yeah it's that's what
48:58
that's where the the players are um I played it for 20 hours straight um and I
49:05
played the first two sections over and over again religiously like a maniac just trying to learn the the rhythm and
49:12
the pattern of this game um I really like Doom: The Dark Ages
49:17
guys i like it more than I liked Eternal yeah it's it's more it's more OG Doom
49:24
like Yeah and Oh go ahead no I was going to say one of the one of the things like Doom Eternal is a very good game uh and
49:30
very well optimized but a lot of people commented on it was just too fast for for them like there's a lot of twitch
49:36
like movements and and quicktime events and stuff like that you have to do to to really like feel optimized in that game
49:43
whereas Doom 2016 when they re-released Doom didn't really have that and this is actually closer to
49:50
like OG Doom where it's a little more about being an unstoppable juggernaut of destructive force that yes you can be
49:57
fast and there are things that you can do that are really really cool and quick but a lot of times it's like you are
50:03
inevitable and you feel like you are inevitable in this game and it is feels really good there was a slider in this
50:10
game that lets you decide how much damage you do to demons yes and and I
50:16
have played it at normal and I have played it at 1,000% and I have to say 1,000% feels
50:25
like Christmas if Christmas involved a lot of demons getting their heads torn
50:30
off um I don't want to spoil the game in any way i want you to get to see it the
50:36
stuff I've seen already amazing the one thing I will say is that without
50:41
spoiling anything it is a prequel it is essentially the first hit of the Doom
50:46
timeline so if you've ever been curious how the Doom games fall into line or as
50:52
far as what started with the original Doomslayer and how that all played out this is where it begins
50:59
technically speaking what's really fascinating about this is this game is the first in the new trilogy in terms of
51:04
chronological order but it is after the events of all the original Doom games up to Doom 3 mhm uh which it's like so and
51:13
it canonically establishes and this I is not a spoiler cuz it comes up in the first 3 seconds and they've already said
51:20
this multiple times but they have never had a game come forth and just say it they've just been saying it to us this
51:27
character is the character from the original games who who also is a
51:32
descendant of uh Blasowitz from Wolfenstein yep and they've actually said that too yep he is of that
51:38
bloodline um so yeah it is the the gameplay of it is the thing I really
51:43
want to talk about though because Doom has always been mostly a shooter mhm and
51:49
I I played this and thought to myself I am shooting things but this is not a shooter this is
51:57
this is a thing where you shoot things unless they're in range and then you smash them with something usually your
52:04
shield usually your shield but sometimes big spike thing sometimes it's a fist
52:10
sometimes it's your boot sometimes it's this thing you ripped off of some other demon yeah the power fist is one of the
52:17
best things in the game just just you get this gauntlet it's just like a glove with big spikes on it and it is
52:23
brilliant um this is a game which is a call back to the original game where you got brass knuckles when you uh literally you ran
52:30
out of ammo and your character just puts the gun away slowly and then pulls out a pair of brass knuckles and just goes
52:35
punching demons there's just it there's a kind of almost I naive is not the
52:40
right word but an innocence to Doom the Dark Ages which is fascinating to say
52:45
about a game where you're literally annihilating demons everywhere you go but it but there's an almost chroling
52:52
glee in like the the cut scenes are all about how great you are how terrifying
52:58
you are how I can't believe that the thing I'm seeing is a thing you are
53:03
doing and it it really does make that scene in the 2016 Doom where you you get
53:09
out of the sarcophagus at the very beginning of the game and you find a shotgun and you rack it just as the
53:16
music stops now you get why that was such a moment like in a real way it it
53:21
it does a really nice job of smoothing over the disconnect between the next
53:26
between Doom and Doom Eternal like you get why the character was the way he was then and how he changes uh it it's
53:33
really nice and I have to say I think the they're right that I've seen three opeds on this i do want to ask Joe about
53:39
it i think getting rid of multiplayer is the way to go for this game yes i think I I went on a tirade about this last
53:45
week singleplayer games there is a pal like people want it there is a there's a market for it and again Doom Doom is
53:53
best as a single player game in my opinion don't get me wrong death matches are fun but there are so many games that
54:00
you can go and be in a shooter with your friends i'd rather have a good single player shooter game or first person game
54:07
and taking away that section of it lets them focus on making just a very good
54:14
Doom game and I very happy for it this is the game that um Godfall wanted to be
54:21
yeah 100% it's the game that you know everyone thought we were getting with that game and and I just I I cannot I
54:29
don't want to like sit here and just gush constantly cuz I feel like I'm I'm you know I'm not being hard enough on it
54:35
but I don't have the ability to be hard on it it's not a perfect game there are things that it's it's it released there
54:41
are still some bugs they even note the first thing you get is "Hey this is the version 1.0 or whatever version it is
54:48
when it releases if you experience bugs please report them let us know and we'll
54:54
we'll and to their credit it's ID that's doing this it's ID is owned by Bethesda
55:00
bethesda is owned by Microsoft but ID is the one making this game and ID I will give them a ton of credit and not just
55:07
to talk about the gameplay but to talk about like resources for it doom 2016 and Doom Eternal will run on a potato
55:13
they will you could literally load them up on like your smart refrigerator if
55:19
you want to and play those games and they will run you're not kidding and they will run at a good
55:24
FPS doom the Dark Ages requires a little bit more than those other games have in
55:30
the past but it is one of the smoothest experiences I have seen from a day one
55:35
launch game in terms of hardware and I bring this up because there is a direct comparison of another game I love that
55:43
almost killed my computer and I pretty sure killed one of our guildy's computers dragon Age Veilgard when it
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released oh yeah it did have problems a lot of people who had like AMD chipsets
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uh I and or Intel I think it was 14th gen the one before Core ultra their CPUs
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were cooking themselves because the game was so horribly optimized needed
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probably another month of just like we need to figure this out but like I noticed almost immediately like oh no I
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can see my temperatures going i can hear my fan going i can hear my AIO
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percolating i'm uninstalling this we're We're switching over to the PlayStation this game Yeah it works much better on
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consoles because consoles had they forced they were optimizing yes they absolutely do this Dark Ages Whisper
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Silent flawless like I I have not like
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these games are so even when they're not optimized runs so well id I don't know
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how you do it but boy is it so great to see and yeah I I don't want to like we
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we're actually running out of time and we need to get some other stuff talked about but I will say this about this
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game it runs just about as well on my old PC as it does on my Xbox and the
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fact that it's a day one Game Pass release for both means that I can play it on both uh it it's just it's it's
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just good it's a good game it isn't going to change your life but it's a
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perfect example of everything we talked about last week it's a single player game that knows its audience that is well optimized and was given the time to
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build it like be built properly before release and again I'm not going to say it's perfect there are bugs that people
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have reported but not the way that we like I couldn't get my first doll out of
57:37
like the secret purple gate because the gate key wouldn't just wouldn't interact it was really sad but then they they
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immediately patched that like I think the next day right they released patches every day yeah and they've been working
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on this thing but I want I I like in a in a world where we often talk about how buggy releases are and how awful
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releases are it's really nice to see a game release that was given enough time
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in the the the Easy Bake Oven to at least have a a good like presentation
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and I'm saying this as I'm sitting here with my uh custommade amiibo that is Isabella from uh Animal Crossing but in
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the Doom armor with the shotgun oh sorry that was the best part that says rip rip
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and tear until it's done i loved that release i loved their you know you guys
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don't guys remember this but they actually had the the Animal Crossing and
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you know Bethesda/ID channel you know Twitter channels at the time it was their you know they each had their own Twitter accounts they were both like
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basically just sending each other pictures of the Isabella as the Doom guy
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doom guy like moving into Animal Crossing and giving Tom Nook vicious
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looks i just Yeah I was that was great i loved that so we should however now move
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to the part where we turn to Liz and Liz does the site news because it's
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much for listening and uh being here for us y'all make this possible yes thank
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you very much Liz um we're going to try to do one question because it's a fun question and we might as well uh this
1:01:23
one's from Azeroon and the question is basically uh wrestling fans get ready to rumble um courtesy of MA I didn't say
1:01:30
the TM i'm sorry there was a TM in there uh courtesy of magical mystical timy wimy uh goodness a special event is
1:01:37
coming to a stadium near you two teams have been assembled heroes versus villain each side from each plane of
1:01:44
existence in the great cosmology has chosen their champions for each team what is the lineup and how does this
1:01:50
match go um over the top shenanigans clever and corny catchphrases and insults team members uh squabbbling and
1:01:57
petty personality conflicts are highly encouraged i think this is one of those ones where to try and really answer it
1:02:03
we'd be here for a year but I am gonna say that I think we should probably each pick one character that we like to see
1:02:10
in this kind of thing so that we at least get something uh I I would like to at least do that so I'm going to turn
1:02:16
first to Joe because I know Joe has a flare for this sort of thing uh if you're going to have a champion show up
1:02:22
on a team here who would it be that is that is so hard okay forcing Joe
1:02:28
to choose between two children but but I mean I guess I guess here's here's the the the question right what we're only
1:02:36
dealing with Warcraft here or can I go outside of Warcraft i'm going to say you know what just just assume this is like
1:02:41
how Heroes of the Storm comes back in just any Blizzard property reinhardt
1:02:46
because I want him to sit on the top of a turnbuckle going catch because I love
1:02:54
Reinhardt uh also because Darren Depal is amazing and I would love to hear him cut a promo as Reinhardt in a wrestling
1:03:01
thing that is always going to be my pick for it all righty uh Liz do you have anybody here gosh i mean the thing is
1:03:08
you could take anyone from Warcraft or Starcraft and throw them into this um
1:03:14
you know I think uh Carrian or Nova from uh Starcraft both be you know amazing
1:03:22
they're both they're good characters in something like this because they're both
1:03:27
Carrian particularly kind of over the top and they both sort of play to their specific roles i I don't have I don't
1:03:35
have a flare for catchphrases but I think you know uh I I think they could
1:03:40
go for this they and probably they'd probably I'm sorry Reinhardt you know
1:03:45
looking forward to I'm looking forward to Carrian you know killing to kill men again this time in a promo but for
1:03:52
myself I think there were two characters I was probably going to use um and I
1:03:58
ultimately decided to go with the one who I think would make the best deal heel and that's Gash Hellcream
1:04:05
Gary Hellstream is made to be like the villain in an AEW you know what I'm saying he he
1:04:12
doesn't he doesn't quite go to the world world wrestling no he's WCW this is WCW
1:04:17
all the way 100% WCW gash because Gash is going to come out there and he is just going to dismantle you and he'll be
1:04:24
quiet at first he's Goldberg yeah yes he's Goldberg he is absolutely Goldberg um the other person I was thinking about
1:04:30
was Andin Lothar but Lothar doesn't he doesn't I don't think he'd demean himself to it you know i just don't I
1:04:36
don't see him having fun with it the way Garash would gash would enjoy it gash
1:04:41
would dismantle you in a promo before he even saw you he wouldn't even know who you were and he'd just start making fun
1:04:47
of you so yeah Gash Hellcream that's mine i I also want to point out real
1:04:52
quick that this kind of already exists and I don't want them to get in trouble
1:04:57
for it so I'm not going to be overly specific about what they have but there is a miniature game based around
1:05:04
wrestling called Rumble Slam and I highly encourage people to go look at their legally distinct
1:05:11
models i like that phrasing that is good all right uh there's also a really
1:05:17
cool wrestling tabletop RPG that at some point we might talk about there's been a few of them there's one right now that's
1:05:24
actually pretty good um but for right now I I guess we're done this is going
1:05:29
to be it uh this has been the Blizzard Watch podcast thank you to Liz for doing the site news and also for coming up
1:05:36
with a really good suggestion there i think the Carrian Nova suggestions are really good they could do a tag team that'd be amazing oh yeah
1:05:44
you got sort of the you kind of got sort of the dark and light elements there the dark and light sides of Starcraft yeah
1:05:50
you could you could play up that story uh and thank you to Joe again not just for you know put doing that Reinhardt
1:05:56
impression but for all you do for this for this podcast but but a lot for that Reinhardt that was a good Reinhardt
1:06:02
impression it's the one thing I can do very solid uh and thank you to all of you for being here with us uh for your
1:06:08
suggestions for your support for everything you guys do for listening to us talk about Doom and understanding
1:06:13
that we could have talked about Doom for a lot longer and that we stopped ourselves out of love for you uh this
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has been the Listen Podcast thank you guys so much and we'll be back next week [Music]
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