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Matt, Joe, and Liz were joined by Cory this week, and all four were more than ready to chat about Player Housing in WoW, which we recently got to see for the first time. There are still a lot of question marks after this first overview, but the team is excited about the information we do have, from Neighborhoods to decor (like a tower of bones, for instance!) to lack of repo men poised to take your house away if you default on your wizard mortgage. However, before anyone joins our Neighborhoods, there may be some rules to discuss (like no towers of bones, for instance!).
But, in the more immediate future is patch 11.1, which is coming out February 25. The car sounds incredibly cool, but of more importance is Brann Bronzebeard's continued Delving and his dedication to fancy hats. After all, transmog is endgame, even for NPCs. There's also the potential of a Diablo roadmap, and Warcraft Rumble and Diablo Immortal both have what seem like their own neat holidays going on... for as much as we play them.
The crew got so carried away there wasn't even enough time for questions, but we do appreciate you asking them. We'll save them for next week.
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hi everybody uh this is the blizzard watch podcast I'm your host in sometimes
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you know creaking Visage on the Borderlands of reality Matt Rossy with me this week are not one not two but
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three astonishing co-hosts um one of them is currently trapped inside a giant
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bullet using her to transport it through the planet so it doesn't kill us all the
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other is shooting lasers out of his eyes and the third is a Spider-Man for no particular reason then they xer like how
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do we get how did he get here why is he here and he's I'm Spider-Man you have to take me so I'm I'm Kitty Pride here
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today yes okay I am the bombast I am the bombastic
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bagman so he's Spider-Man in a fantastic for costume with a bag on his head which I believe is going to be a costume in
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Rivals we're going to talk about that later yes um also Corey Taylor uh has come in we we don't have a Liz P this
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week um unfortunately but we do have a Cory and that's we're mixing it up that's turns out I've been here the
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whole time I've just been frozen solid because it got really cold here they finally B me out when in case of
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emergency podcast break ice I'm just a simple Frozen caveman
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game commentator but yes we should talk about various things going on uh there's a lot
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actually it's it's been a busy week blizzard has been doing this thing where it's like we turn our heads for a second
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and then there's things so the day after we recorded the podcast last week big
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announcement yes big big announcement and that announcement is cabbage no it's
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not um that announcement is player housing there could be there could be cabbage involved in I'm just don't know
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I'm afraid there's gonna be a cabbage Merchant and he's gonna keep having his cart destroyed and I don't want to feel bad for that guy anymore I felt bad for
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him the entire time Ang and his crew were having Adventures I'm like nope I'm I'm done I am done feeling bad for you C
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cabbage man but let's the the first look we got it's a first look for player housing right yes that's what this
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article says yeah but it it honestly has a ton of details there's a lot going on here um it I'm gonna just say it do you
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feel like they're stealing a little bit from Wild Star here and that's not a criticism if if they are going to steal
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a player housing Wild Star is the place to steal some stuff from it feels like they're taking the best of uh probably
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the three best player housing uh options which was Wild Star uh elements of Final
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Fantasy 14 minus the lottery uh and then uh the one that everybody forgets about
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uh but City of Heroes had player housing and there's elements there's elements of that here with the the the neighborhood
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stuff so I'm super intrigued that's I'm sorry just
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I'm getting caught when I read the line public neighborhoods let you rang with 50
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randos Liz is that you so that's not me that's uh Anna has been helping me come
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up with podcast topics expain it's you know it's it's a fine line Anna has her
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specific uh type of sarcasm and snark and I have mine I think I'm I think I'm
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a little cattier but usually I I try not to write down the really stuff sometimes
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it works let's go around starting with you Liz let's talk about you know what you think is the most interesting thing
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about this I think really these neighborhoods are very a very
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interesting idea because one of the things blizzard always said about the garrisons was that they didn't like how
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it's like you went to your Garrison and you did everything there and it wasn't a social experience anymore you were sort
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of turtling in you could do everything that your were Garrison you didn't have to interact with anybody
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you know it had its pluses and minuses but here all houses are going to be arranged in neighborhoods you can choose
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from an alliance themed neighborhood or a horde themed neighborhood and blizzard did say that there's the possibility of
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more neighborhoods in the future but they wanted to focus on doing two that were really good instead of making like
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20 that were kind of yeah okay so the Alliance One's going to be a bit of Ln
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Forest a bit of duskwood a bit of red Ridge kind of a sort of vibe over there and on The Horde side it's going to be
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more durar themed which I'm not super thrilled about durar but maybe some nice
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Beach F front property there I know I don't know I think it's I know that they they're starting smaller because then
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they can get the the system nailed down and they only have to create AR assets for two sets of houses to start with
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let's be honest the minute they launch this we're going to figure out how to put yog Saron in our neighborhood and
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they're going to have to figure out how to patch that out so one battle at a
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time all of your homes will be in neighborhoods they'll either be in a public neighborhood or in a private neighborhood that you can create say
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share with friends and guildmates and I think that's really fascinating you could actually instead of just having
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your Garrison and everyone's Garrison is in literally the same spot in the world and are not connected in any way you're
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going to live in a neighborhood your house will be next to someone else's house and I mean that's just so
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interesting because you'll be in your neighborhood you'll be able to get to see what your neighbors are doing with their houses we don't really know how
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much you can customize the exterior of your house you were talking about cabbage earlier Matt and I was like I
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could make a maybe I could make a cabbage Garden in front of the house maybe I could grow giant decorative cabbages I don't know but we don't we
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we're missing a lot of the detail here so it's going to be interesting and I think I really like the neighborhood's
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ideas we yeah I'm I'm going to go in and have a gild neighborhood and I'm going to love it until I hate it because
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someone builds a giant Tower of Bones next to me or something I I I'm going to have to learn to live with the neighbors
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I guess look that giant Tower of Bones really ties the whole thing together yeah I mean maybe so yeah it takes all
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sorts it takes all sorts the Vari variety is the spice of life some sort of Village etc etc I'm I'm sorry but now
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I'm I'm still thinking about the possibility of the you know hi yeah I'm I'm gror I'm an orc and I'm been this is
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my new house I painted the door red for fangue and I've just really what what's that over there and you see like howy
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friends it's me Felipe the jawless I'm your new friendly Undead neighborhood look at my tower of
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Bones like you C just a gigantic Tower of bones with an enormous bone bird on
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top going and you're like this gonna be tricky and then there's like a taring going I I I was going to put a tree
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there and I was going to live at the top of the tree no I can't but we don't do that do we I shut up I don't care if
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it's elves I just wanted a tree I do think uh I do think that this does
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borrow from other games and it's in some ways it's a response to how other games do housing but yeah I don't think it
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would make a lot of sense to just completely ignore the way everybody else did it and attempt to do your own that's
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how you get that's also how wow was born and how wow became the icon that it was
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it looked at what other games were doing said we can do this but do it better and figure out our own way so like yeah go
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for it and Liz I want I'm going to shut up I want you to talk I was ju I was about to say
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something very similar to what you just did which is that blizzard has a reputation of looking at what's out there and taking the best pieces of
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other things and refining it and turning it into something that is more polished
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sometimes that works out better than others but I think I think that's a pretty normal thing in gaming to look at what else is out there and say what can
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we do that adds to this what can we do that makes this better what else can we do yeah and I think that's I think
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that's really important and I think with player housing and again uh I'm really surprised like the announcement of this
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was me planning on eating a shoe because I was wrong um and it's it's rare that I
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get something very wrong like that but like I was not expecting them to go in on player housing I well they fought it
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long and hard enough well they did but more than fighting it I think that's
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telling of where the systems currently are that they feel confident enough that
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they can do it and they even said that they have to iron it out and it's going to be you know a process but they feel
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like they have the game systems to a point where they can do this without completely breaking everything I think
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that's important to note but I'm very excited for also the idea that you get
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one plot per war band possibly more characters I don't think they really
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specified uh they've they've been it's been a little unclear because at first they talk about you having a house for
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your War band but at other points in the article they talk about houses your houses yes so there's still questions
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but that said I think that's a really cool idea too though um and I like the the idea of communities and I like the
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idea of Guild communities and neighborhoods and I think that is what
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will make this uh better or at least a partially a step up to what's out there
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uh but I think it's just going to be a lot of fun and again a lot of people have been waiting for this uh and other
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games like Final Fantasy 14 they take a shot at the lottery and part of that is because player housing was so popular in
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Final Fantasy 14 that essentially to get a plot you had to win the lottery at one
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point I remember this um because they just technical limitations them having
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to expand everything out um I hope I hope that they're building this with
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their current player base in mind uh and also beyond that because I think this might actually potentially bring players
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back to the game which it's been so wanted for so long that at least it's going to get a lot of looky lose coming
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by the first chance they get just to check out the base version of it yeah I I do want to point out really fast oh go
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ahead L I don't know that a game has really a game like wow that's about
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having your own character in your own world with this big share Universe with that's all about social
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experiences and who you're playing with I don't think a game has gone all in on housing like this we're talking about
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wild star but how long ago was Wild Star shut down we have not had a game that
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really embraced player creativity and expressiveness like this in the MMO
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space I don't feel like we have so if wow goes all in on this that's that's kind of something unique that's
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something special make this transmog for my house and I will never be a to leave the game okay basic can can my house
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wear a hat my question I want to find out that at some point you can go and
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you do a raid and there's like a giant cornice on the building that you can get
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and bring home and like you know what is that there oh yeah um so yeah we were
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doing Blackfire you know depths and I just found this this thing and yeah it's on my house now you sure that's safe oh
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absolutely not it Whispers to me in the night I sleep but yeah I I because that's one of the things that they talk
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about the stuff they're going to have they want to have players able to find new things uh you find new bits of Bobs
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is the thing it says here to to to add as decor and they want people to use their creativity doing so and they're
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even going to let Alliance use horde buildings and horde use Alliance buildings so I I do think there's room
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for this to become the kind of thing that can be super can super absorbing and super fun like I like I find transm
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Mo not everybody does a lot of people don't like transm Mo but I do and I want I'm like if you telling me I can I can
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essentially make my own Franken sinan horror house I am in I am all in I will
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I will be making specific houses for specific characters I will get my death knight back just to make a death
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Knight's house you know like and and to really think about what does that mean to me uh so yeah I'm super excited about
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that anything else we should talk about this oh oh we should mention you can they're saying you will be able to move
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from the neighborhood but we don't have any idea what that means there's no details yet they've just said that and
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they've said that your house is never going to go away if you unsub your house will still be there when you resub but
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also like in some games your house can be repossessed I know I know new world had this whole thing where you had like
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house taxes that you had to pay and if you didn't pay them gone gone taxes in
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real life I don't need to pay taxes in my fantasy game and doesn't uh doesn't
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Final Fantasy 14 also have something like that something where your house can be Tak away if if you're inactive for a
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period of time I don't I don't know if this is still the case I honestly have not played Final Fantasy 14 in a hot
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minute um but at one point if you were in active for a certain period of time you could lose your
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plot so it's it's nice to know you could build a home and it'll always be there for you that's that's a really nice
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thought I love it if you live in California you're aware that that doesn't happen in the real world so yeah it's it's really great I think it is
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nice that I don't have to worry about losing my fake house um
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this there's fair amount there we just talked about so we'll move on to the patch uh 11.1 because the undermines
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finally coming in about 15 days from the time that we're recording this and we
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talked about this before so I'm not going to go nuts talking about it again but I will point out the stuff we've got
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um we've got the drive system for driving weird Goblin cars it's kind of
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like your your a little bit of Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift but it's not it's undermine drift so you that's in there
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there's there's multiple Goblin cartel go ahead Liz I do want to point out about the cars and this we have
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mentioned before but you should remember that you will not be able to fly in undermine you will have a car and you
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can tweak it and customize it in different ways and if you custom it for Speed it will be faster than the fastest
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Dragon riding speed you can hit so you can make a car that goes really really
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fast if that's what you're into if you like flaming into walls it's yeah that'd be me that'd be me I
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mean I'm I'm the one guy who can be riding up like a really slow Mount through a forest with nothing in it for
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like you know literal virtual miles and somehow I will find a tree to ride into
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that happens in real life too because there's stories all the time of like people that run into the one object and
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for miles around yeah the only two cars in this this entire State and they hit each other last night um but there's
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also going to be the goblin cartels to befriend um do we know we know the the cartels right we covered this last week
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yeah we yeah yeah so there's going to be the new raid liberation of undermine and the operation Floodgate which is a new
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dungeon and then we've got delves two delves uh excavation site 9 and side
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street SLO and there's a new PVP Arena called the cage of Carnage so yeah all
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bunch of stuff coming with 11.1 uh so we can now go and Adventure on undermine the place completely full
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of goblins who were probably hostile to us yay there were some there were some
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friendly goblins that's the whole thing about the cartels they're they're here to make deals they'll befriend anyone
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who thinks they'll help them so I we can go in here and make our own deals see how it goes and so after that we've got
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the after 11.1 we've got season two on March 4th um and that gives us you know
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we've got the various raids and stuff um there's also like the various heroics
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right I mean not mythics new mythics are coming well one thing one thing about the raid release schedule that we should
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talk about and Corey you still do Mythic rating am I right there no I don't I haven't rated all this
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expansion you know you know that's sad I think you're I think you're in a guild that would take you a long especially at
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this new TI start maybe maybe oh but one interesting thing
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about this raid tier is that normal heroic myth Mythic and rfinder Wing one
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all open on the same day so our last raid tier we just Mythic was a week
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later and this this tier they're all at the same time we had one tier I believe in Dragon flight where Mythic released
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at the same time as the others but usually it's a after so this is a really uh accelerated schedule then on week two
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we will have story mode rfinder Wing to and then another raid finder Wing the
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week after that and the week after that so we're getting raid finder all wings really fast we're getting story mode
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really fast we're getting Mythic rating really fast all of this is coming just
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immensely fast that's actually means it means that all of the raids will be released within a month and the
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everything accept the the completion of raid finder will be out by the second week yes so and I mean even even all all
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four wings of raid finder will be out within a month that's really fast for raid finder they also did this last tier
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where Raider got a wing released every week before that they'd been doing every
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two week two week every two weeks and it it's stretched raid finder out so long
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so if you were a more casual player it just took forever to get through a raid because it was such a long release
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schedule I think this is way better I think in general getting the raids out faster like that this yeah just why make
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people wait another week it's like you know it's like look at the sh Jolly candy raid for Det tantalizing e but
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also I I do like the fact that as you're talking about here there's no longer G to be that week where we we all get to
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watch as the the top raids top gills in the world farm for and don't even look
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at the ra they'll still do it but it's not going to be as much you know no I I
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think it's going to be exactly as much it's just it's because so Mythic race to
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world first is going to start on March 4th but because all the raids open the top tier Raiders are not going to go
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into Mythic they're going to Gear Up in heroic first so we may see a couple of
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days where it is just the big Mythic raid teams doing heroics and more heroic
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and more heroics and not even step foot into Mythic for several days while they
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get everyone as geared as they can and then go stomp through the first bosses I'm gonna make a g a BET right now okay
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I think at least a couple of Chinese guilds are gonna try going straight into
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Mythic or they'll do a week where they hit heroic and then immediately go into
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Mythic whatever they get on a road I'm really curious how Mythic is going to be tuned because I'm talking with one of my
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employees who he does he last expansion he did a bunch of Mythic rating and this
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year his Guild really didn't want to do it so he started joining like a pug group or starting a pug group and the
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difficulty Spike was so massive from heroic that even like fully geared they
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were just hitting walls um and some of the mechanics were so like alenx the
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alenx mechanics with the eggs um if you're familiar with that fight yeah if you're familiar with that fight you have
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to break eggs on normal not a big deal heroic kind of a big deal you miss one or do it in the wrong order it's a wipe
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um on Mythic two people have to coordinate and hit the same eggs because
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eight of the debuffs got outed or eight of the circles got at a time not four and so you and if you one person misses
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it or one person doubles up in the wrong spot or triples up you miss an egg it's basically a white and the only way that
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they've that anybody including the Mythic rating guilds were able to do this was with a weak AA like in order to
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tell people specifically where to go so that it did not double up or do anything Goofy and I'm wondering if there are
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going to be Mythic mechanics like that here that are going to put I don't want
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to say put a damper on it but be those hard stop points like be those points that like are really really challenging
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and prevent people from going into it directly uh you know directly into Mythic when it's available
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I think what we saw this past raid tier was that kind of these big top tier
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guilds spent a couple of days in heroic before seriously approaching Mythic but
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some other guilds that may have less time to do rating the people who maybe day raid for a week after a new raid
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comes out they will often jump ahead and jump into Mythic before kind of those
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big world first guilds and get a couple of world first kills but the big guys I
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bet we're going to watch some farming heroic splits for a while we also see Asian guilds that will sometimes just go
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they just go for it they have a they're behind us Realms by two days in opening
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the raid so sometimes they will just push they will just log on and push as
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hard as they can into the raid and that's that's been really fun to watch but I I think you know where it comes to
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like liquid and Echo and Method I think they're to spend a couple of days at
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least farming heroic over and over before they touch Mythic I have seen
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some talk from uh Max from liquid that this raid is not as he's he's looking
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for like one of those really big import like standout fights like we saw with uh
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HR from back in shadowlands where oh boy you know you they were the fun ones to
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them right like the the hard difficult the super challenging and he I think he was looking for a fight like that in
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this raid tier and of the ones they've seen so far on the PTR that there's nothing that's really standing out to
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them so it's possible we'll see the the top tier highend world top three kind of
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jump in there sooner just because it's easy well we'll see we'll see indeed we
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shall see I'm sorry I just needed to fill the space yeah but uh we've talked about
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that and I think that's pretty cool now let's talk about delves we're going to get new delves in season two oh you're
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going to summon K he's going to hear that word he's just going to pop out of nowhere delves
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deles but uh in addition to getting the new ones we're gonna get the same guy as
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our companion instead of you guys uh gonna get Bron bronze beard I get the sense we're just gonna have Bron bronze
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beard through the whole thing I don't think we're getting any else I think now I think I think now we're just getting
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bran I mean they did say we were going to get a new one every season but they back down on that and now I think it's
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just going to be brck all the way you know what I'm I'm okay with that though like I'm not upset I
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know some people are like really upset about that but like Brands AI has been programmed to a a specific point where
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it's like usable now and yeah they could probably apply that to something else but if they just reskin brand and use
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the same mechanics people are going to be upset anyway stick with what works and I mean it's brand it makes sense it
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makes sense to me in the earn expansion or at least the earn part of the expansion that we're still in to have a
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dwarf be your companion as he's uncovering ancient law secrets of what are ESS sensibly his ancestors so sure
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I'm here but I could see the goblin part of the expansion giving you a goblin like hanging out with gazlo no no no
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that's that's wave three and that's gonna be brand in Green in green body pain see here's my deal I like being
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frustrated with bran like I enjoy that like like it's it's not all that serious
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it's just a comical way for me to be like oh bran you so silly when he runs up and pulls a whole bunch of people
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onto me and I die that's that's that's our relationship he does ridiculous
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things that that that make me all oh Bri and then like he does a cute thing goes
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it's a secret and you know it something like an old TV show or balky from for perfect strangers my point is just I I I
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wouldn't want Bron to be completely smooth and just great and working
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perfectly I want him to be a bit of a of a mess a prickly pair yeah yeah you just
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that's that's just that is Braun's style Braun has been dragging me into like places underground and getting me
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attacked by things since I met him like if he stops doing that what is he to be
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fair one of those was kind of like above ground so like I don't know yeah but
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even then it's it it it certainly felt like we were underground because we you know things were everywhere but and just
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that's all I'm saying um but now we got to talk about this achievement before we move on to other things because
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apparently we have to get Bron's hat back and once we do there's an
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achievement to get him to change his hats 10 times after we get his hat back so yeah that's happening that uh the
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achievement is called cataclysm and Leo juice I I
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approve uh so yes we're we're apparently going to spend some portion of this
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season helping bran find his hat again
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wait and and getting it back I want to call this out what is it that you say is the most important part of this game
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that's true that's true that hat is important and specifically specifically the hats you need the right headgear
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yeah transmog hat that's always going to do it if they got an awesome hat you know I have killed many monsters for
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less than an awesome hat it's weird I don't need the Hat as often as I used to
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because you know I've just got there's this really nice old God who gave me a gift and it just kind of sits right where a hat would be so yeah Cory's
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gonna go down in flames guys he's gonna drag us all with them but um in addition
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to bronze hat addiction which you know we we can all super I mean I still I
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still have that giant chicken mask to tank in I I got in Zulan forever ago
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still use it it's I I don't actually use it I just transm to it but I I still love to tank with that thing I love to
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tank in my Angry Chicken mode I really do it it still brings back memories but
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whilst we're all doing that there's also we should mention that while season two is is almost here um it's still not till
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the early part of March which means that we've still got at least a couple of weeks of season one so if you are
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working on any of the various achievements like you know we've got a list here like a head of the curve
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Cutting Edge Keystone Explorer SLC conqueror Master hero and you know Del
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achieves that you might not have done you got that much time to get them done before they just get retired when the
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season changes we get new places to go and the old achievements they they kind of go a walk we don't entirely know
27:45
which Del achievements will go away but presumably some of the ones that are directly relating to the season or
27:52
directly related to Zack will be going away um the achievements that away for
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rating and for Mythic plus are pretty those are pretty common they go away every season but delves are still it's
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the new shiny we'll see how it works when we see we haven't seen we've only seen one season of delv so far so yep uh
28:13
but we should also mention plunder storms ending on the 25th of February lovers in the air ends onto the 17th I
28:19
think still don't have my rocket so yeah there actually two mounts aren't there
28:25
two two mounts you can get now you can get that the rocket and I've gotten neither of them the legally distinct
28:31
Sparrow from Destiny Okay so yes you you just have a few more days to get your
28:37
x45 Heartbreaker or love witches sweeper supposedly the love witches sweep
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sweeper is significantly more common some people will find that more true than others both of these mounts have an
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increased drop chance first kill of the day so you can go in and kill it once
28:55
and hopefully that's enough hopefully I thought it was uh I thought it was once per uh War band is that not the case
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once once per war band Yes there you go I misspoke so it's like you just but instead of running you know all of your
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alts through it's just go through do your first kill of the day and there's the drop rate after that is so low for
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the x45 that there's don't make yourself crazy for that like three% chance
29:20
narrator voice loader says that's a lie also I yeah keep in mind that you've got
29:25
again you got to the 25th for plunder storm because that's when that ends but you've only got six days from this
29:31
recording and probably less by the time you hear this um so yeah do if you've
29:37
gotten anything like love in the air you're trying to get done get on that because you don't have a lot of time left now for Wow classic phase four for
29:45
cataclysm classic is launching on February 18th so I mean like the day after love in the air stops so I guess
29:52
you're going to be heartbroken then you'll go play cataclysm Classics phas 4 I guessing this GNA work
29:59
um and that's going to be dragon soul and dragon soul goes live on February
30:04
20th a couple days after the phase starts and this is the last phase for
30:09
cataclysm classic we're just waiting on Miss A Pandaria feels too soon but also
30:15
I'm sure a lot of people will be happy to see the back of it although dragon soul was a very fun raid I remember
30:20
enjoying dragon soul one of the best raids they did um certainly much better than say you know the fireand fire
30:28
actually know I liked Firelands but I can see why people don't that that whole Beal we have to go around the big circle
30:34
and catch that one guy didn't like that but we should mention also there's also going to be
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the three level 85 heroic five player dungeons in addition to uh the raid end
30:45
time well of Eternity and hour of Twilight um since this is the C this is the transmog expansion um you can now
30:53
Farm transmog gear guys which means run those dungeons get those unique looks for your transmog see now I can just I
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can I can push transmog on people playing wild classic my life is complete and and you're going to want to
31:07
because Miss of Pandaria isn't doe out until the summer so you have time gear
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up and get those hot looks so you can be ready to go to pandaland also if you are
31:19
playing a rogue we should mention that you're going to be able to get your heroic not your heroic your legendary
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weapon um the fangs of the father d set um for Rogues and Rogues alone uh it's
31:31
got the golad Twilight of the aspects and fear lash I can't I think it's fear
31:37
lash nightmare of Ages those are the two dagers in question it's a very involved Quest chain and since I've never played
31:43
a rogue past level 20 I've not done it but I have got so many Rogue friends
31:49
that they keep telling me about it because they're like oh have you done that yet and I'm like no because I don't want to play a rogue um so yeah it it's
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a very involved Quest that's actually a lot of the stuff that happens in that Quest serves as a kind of like an
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introduction to stuff that comes back later like we've seen a lot of that stuff reoccur like gilas all of that
32:08
stuff there there's a ton of it I mean we've seen rathon how many times now oh so many and I think on the the last
32:14
thing here is the new tolber ad boss is going to be on the 25th and that's I want to say Elizabeth but it's not it's
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elizab Bal um sorry Liz I I didn't mean to imply that you were a toad raid boss
32:26
I don't think I am well if you wake up if you ever wake up really sore and you're like what did I do last night
32:32
maybe you were a raid boss overnight um but I hate when that happens yeah you wake up and you're like oh God somebody
32:39
definitely put curs of tongues on me oh I'm so sore but then usually I wake up
32:45
and it's just curse of exhaustion it can be both good good warlocks use whatever
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curse is necessary but yeah the pre patch is like we said the the missa Pandaria pre patch and launch Cycles are
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both going to be be in the summertime so yeah you've got this is all your content
33:02
for at least three to four months like if you are playing cataclysm Classic this is what you are doing for the next
33:08
three to four months so or or you're jumping ship and playing season of Discovery either or yeah that's that's
33:15
fair but that's we've covered that so Diablo oh we gotta talk about Diablo um
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lunar Awakening I I did not particularly care I'm sorry lunar Awakening you lost me it's perfectly fine because it
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requires you to do nothing extra yeah oh let me let me just jump in and give some
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background is that lunar Awakening is the kind of lunar Festival event in Diablo 4 and it is available through
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February 18th so we are also running out of time for that yeah it's a go ahead go
33:45
on all right now we're doing the Canadian standoff where we're both trying to get the other to go go go okay
33:51
um I will say this it is essentially it's exactly the same as it was last year at least as far as I could tell if
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they added anything new I did not notice and it's perfectly serviceable as Cory said you don't have to do anything but
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do what you're doing anyway so I did get stuff like I got the tattoo um but I
34:10
generally it it generally didn't really didn't really work for me uh but you know feel free to talk about it if you
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guys really did anything with it they did killed more goblins than I thought I would that's good I admit that they did
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they did upgrade the event a little which is that every Shrine you find Aster will be a lunar Shrine and last
34:31
time it was just some of the shrines you find yeah that was annoying a lunar Shrine yeah cuz there were so many
34:37
shrines out there that just yeah they also buffed the Buffs you get when you use the lunar shrines so I think they
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made the event better I still found that I did not find a ton of shrines and also
34:51
when I've been playing Diablo for lately I have been doing the pit and the pit
34:56
does not have lunar shrines they normal shrines which I I kind of understand that they do not want to give you
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excessive Buffs in the pit which will you know artificially inflate your power
35:08
so you're getting into higher difficulty levels but also I was you know I went in there and I was like oh a shrine oh wait
35:14
it's just normal Shrine that's fine it's a better event than it was last year
35:20
it's still it's a it's a little itty bitty tiny event that you can just completely miss or ignore it's it's kind
35:26
of there but that's that's about it but you know we'll see what HS ends
35:32
up because um Pez radar Adam Fletcher he's mentioned that we may be getting a Content road map for Diablo 4 uh quote
35:39
unquote soon you guys know this soon um yeah I that you don't know when he
35:45
didn't make any promises but uh yeah someone in Reddit was asking I'd really
35:50
love to see a road map for Diablo 4 to see what content is coming up and Adam
35:56
Fletcher respond responded to that and said expect one soon yeah so soon being
36:02
what that could mean anything yeah soon could be next week soon could be a few months yeah it could be December we
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don't know but Ian we do know that there's another expansion being worked on um yes
36:15
we don't know I mean when that's coming out yet I don't think it's been announced no it hasn't Diablo 4 has in
36:21
the past said they're doing annual expansions so we may expect it in October again I heard someone talking
36:26
but then they stopped so I'm waiting for you to talk again whoever you we'd love to see more Diablo but I I I don't even
36:33
it's rude of me to say that I don't see the point of the road map because the seasonal content that we've gotten has
36:38
just been 20 minutes of questing of 20 minutes of new Quest a new mechanic for
36:44
the season and then just go play Diablo yeah I think that it it might be might be more likely to come out if it's going
36:51
to talk about the expansion in some way yeah but even that I mean Diablo 4
36:56
already feels like it's on a bit of a treadmill which is you get Four Seasons
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a year which means four battle passes a year which means Four Season Journeys a year and all of them are a grind each
37:09
season you get a new colored Zone on your map that you should go to and kill
37:15
things in and do nothing else so they kind of have a pattern that they are starting to follow yeah I mean it's fair
37:22
to say it's like the less Whimsical Hearthstone in that in that regard I mean it's it's fine I've just
37:29
been talking about the lunar Awakening event which is totally fine Diablo seasons are totally fine I have been
37:36
having fun in this one leveling is super fast but also this is fine but it could
37:42
be finer yeah or could at least be more there could be more stuff that's different and new happening yeah Seasons
37:48
feel very skimpy and very syy so they don't always hold my interest for very
37:53
long I I do the 20 minutes worth of quests and then it's like okay I'm doing this again again except now the zone is
38:01
purple instead of green okay I guess Y what what's the new thing that's going
38:07
to be trying to kill us um but Diablo immortal's also got an event happening um that's the Feast of Valente uh from
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which is from February 12th to March 12th so tomorrow as we're recording to mid-march uh you can make Grizzly
38:21
offerings to this valent person to get your heart's desire and I don't know
38:27
what's happening with this but it does s to sound neat um it even says I just think the event sounded neat and and I
38:33
said that not even read that far yet I I keep thinking that Diablo
38:38
Immortal has much cooler sounding events it has a much more aggressive event
38:44
schedule which is in part because it has a monthly battle pass which is so much
38:49
content it kind of hurts my head and I couldn't keep up with it in any way but they also keep they it feels like they
38:55
keep doing cool and creative things that every time I read about it I'm like should I just be playing Diablo Immortal
39:02
and then I change my mind because yeah I think you L on a couple times so much work it's so much work because of that
39:09
monthly battle pass yeah and you log on and immediately the store starts yelling at you to buy also dingles in Diablo
39:17
mortal you're making continuous progress on your character in a shared persistent
39:23
world that until Diablo I was more like an MMO than Diablo had ever been yeah
39:29
and Diablo 4 keeps asking you too okay it's a new season don't you want to start from scratch and I'm kind of like
39:37
not really yeah that's one of those examples okay I guess that's one of those things that I think they tried to
39:42
hold on to from Diablo 3 when they were getting rid of practically everything else from Diablo I and now they've
39:47
brought back a a lot of the stuff they got rid of from Diablo I this is the thing you should get rid of from Diablo
39:53
II listen the fact that they they were doing that is single-handedly made me not want to play Diablo 4 yeah and it's
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it's why I always inevitably burn out of a season I play for a while and it's like okay this is fun but I've done all
40:06
of this before this character is going to be thrown in the trash at the end of the season it's it's hard to invest in
40:14
the long term like yeah like look at World of Warcraft like and how long
40:20
sorry go ahead how long have you been playing loader Joe uh close beta yeah so
40:27
you get these characters and they are yours they are you you become attached to them and that's not the case here so
40:34
this is this is something that I think everybody forgets about why Diablo II was so good and so beloved because it
40:42
wasn't that you had a million alts running around doing things it's because you had your character that you farmed
40:50
gear on in spent thousands of hours on so like the vast majority of people at
40:56
least that I know and everybody's mileage is different sure but they would do staff of Jordan runs like 15 at a
41:03
time they would do bail runs 15 15 times in a row they would you know go hunting
41:10
for specific runes go hunting for The Unique sets for their class uh they
41:15
would do a ton of stuff on a specific character their main character and again
41:23
you people had alts people made other characters but that you you had reward
41:28
for time investment in a single character even in Diablo I in Diablo you
41:33
could do the ladder and you could do the ladder in Diablo I yeah but it wasn't like you know if in Diablo I if you
41:40
chose to do the ladder you essentially created a new character and did all that stuff but it's not like this where if
41:46
you want to see anything new you basically have to push a season yeah and and and we talked about it beforehand because like it's it's also a complete I
41:52
don't say complete 180 because I think they were vague enough about it that it wasn't necessary a lie but the way that
41:59
they first talked about Diablo 4 Seasons was not that it was going to be like this they talked about it in the way of
42:06
your character will continue to progress and like again they weren't outright
42:11
about it one way or another at the beginning but that was the impression that I got and then when it released and it was like by the way Seasons aren't
42:17
going to be like this it just it literally killed my motivation to play anything other than did I finish the
42:24
story of this particular expansion or this storyline I'm done now I don't have
42:29
a reason to keep grinding Paragon level I don't have a reason to keep doing this stuff over and over again I've seen
42:35
everything until the next content release which okay that's fine but I miss having that game like Diablo I
42:41
where I can jump in jump out jump in jump out like and and being able to continually progress on my druid that I
42:47
love or just make another carbon copy and do it again or make another carbon copy and do it again I don't want to do
42:53
that I just want to experience the new stuff that's it that's all I want I have so many necromancers on my account now
43:00
just it's it's yeah because you get to the end of a season and now you've got yet another max level Necromancer
43:06
exactly place with Barbarian and that's me yeah what am I supposed to do with these things I don't know you start a
43:12
home for retired necromancers I too was summoned by the siren Call Of Death hey
43:18
I just noticed you and I have the same we basically look like twins yeah that's weird and we have the same name in
43:25
everything I don't know can you name them same thing over and over again yes you can you can have every character
43:31
with the exact same name if you want to I know this because I do I have never tried I just I like to yeah when I'm
43:38
playing a game I like to come up with new names it just but that goes back to it feels pointless to think up on new
43:45
character identity because we're just doing this and then in 3 months we're going to have to do it again and then in
43:50
three months we're going to have to do it again yeah it's sort of like playing death Loop but even less fun than death Loop was
43:57
that's mean death Loop wasn't bad but I just it it kind of wasn't really what I was expecting from its studio so all
44:05
right with Warcraft Rumble Corey's here so we're not talking about it over what no I'm kidding Cory Warcraft Rumble us tell us
44:12
about this love is in the air which is starting on the 12th and going to March 3D talk to us about it hey do you like
44:19
free stuff well no I hate it oh well then you're not going to like this event uh it's it's just a daily login kind of
44:26
thing it's a nice pink blingtron holding a little heart for you on the map and if you log in every day as you log in you
44:33
get tickets and you spend the tickets on free stuff if you log in the whole time you get all the free stuff uh we're at
44:40
uh there's nothing that has been data mined for Warcraft rumble on the horizon as far as we can tell they just did a
44:45
rework on the spiderlings mini in the game to make them uh not trash which is nice because they were kind of bad
44:52
before and they didn't see much use and now they can see some use but uh yeah so we don't know what's coming next for
44:58
rumble they have not committed to giving us a a road map which I think would go a long way to improving people's thoughts
45:05
about the game just because there's this situation where a lot of it is a lot they're looking for money a lot of the
45:11
time right and wouldn't you know it I I would feel more inclined to give them
45:16
money if I knew that they weren't about to shut the game in three months so a road map goes a long way to that it does
45:23
feel like this is a game that's winding down or a game that's in maintenance
45:28
mode because we don't have those project updates showing that there's oh we're doing this next month we're doing this
45:34
in two months it's the game exists okay well it's one of those things where I
45:40
mean I saw someone suggest this as a little bit of a joke they were talking about how they they played this game and
45:45
they liked it but unfortunately it didn't have Ubisoft level you know monetization so and I don't think
45:51
anyone's asking for that but like if the thing about a road map is it doesn't just give you confidence the game still
45:57
going to be here it also gets you specifically thinking about what is coming if you don't have a road map or
46:03
anything telling people what's what's going on like Diablo had those Dev Dev updates when before it came out Diablo 4
46:10
did those quarter coolers serve to get you thinking about o okay this is g to happen this is interesting if you don't
46:16
have any like the whole point of having releases like this is is at least in
46:21
part to get people excited about the game yeah you if if work Rumble doesn't
46:27
have any like we don't know until suddenly oh hey and yeah by the way now you get to play his death wi what when
46:33
does that happen like you know right now right this very moment yeah he's live actually he's gotten loose he's just
46:41
he's rampaging you GNA get in there and stop them but yeah so I I do think that that's a good point um but ultimately
46:47
problem I have is that Warcraft Rumble is very cute it's so cute it's really sad that it's that you know might not be
46:54
around I I hope that the PC release helps it I can't imagine that it heard it at all no no I can't either it's in
47:02
beta right now so I mean you can get it on PC immediately if you want to right
47:07
this moment right now why are you even listening to us exactly you could be playing it on your
47:12
PC uh OverWatch we've got the groundbreaking PVP gameplay changes coming to OverWatch 2 event on February
47:19
12th as we've pointed out we record on the 11th blizzard why do you do this to us but
47:25
you know let's let's move on to something that we can actually talk about since all we can talk about the OverWatch thing is that's happening and
47:32
next week people will talk about it more probably yes hopefully we will then have actual things to tell you um Joe doesn't
47:39
really want to talk about Marvel Rivals but I'm gonna insist that we talk about it a little bit oh twist my
47:45
arm yeah I'm gonna have to force you to do it Joe I'm sorry so talk to us about
47:51
Season 1 Part Two what is happening yeah so the first season of Marvel Rivals was announced to be a large season than
47:57
normal uh encompassing more content release or at least for a longer longer
48:03
uh season I words are hard folks um so it was going to be broken out into two parts part one and part two part one saw
48:10
the introduction of uh the first half of the Fantastic 4 which was uh Sue and Reed Richards uh and you know everybody
48:18
seemed to enjoy it everything was great uh and there was a tear that they introduced their battle pass and
48:23
everything else all the stuff you would expect also the season is eternal night which has us going to various places
48:29
fighting Dracula or trying to find Dracula and fight against them etc etc etc um talked about it before go back
48:36
and listen to the the old stuff please uh in this one we finally found out when
48:41
Season 1 Part Two is going to release and that is going to be February
48:47
21st uh at 2 A.M CT with depending on downtime uh and we'll push it to uh
48:55
probably somewhere in mid April uh where the dark hold battle pass if if that's
49:00
to be believed sort of leads us to um it's not going to be a new battle pass
49:06
that launches with the second half of season 1 um but there will be as a
49:11
update which will change the like it'll basically be like another update they'll add more stuff to it um the in this one
49:18
they're also going to be releasing the thing the ever lovable thing as well as uh Johnny Storm the Human Torch uh and
49:25
they're also doing a bunch of balance adjustments now they did release a minor patch on February 6th to uh take care of
49:33
like some bugs and some weird interactions but it's not a major
49:39
balance adjustment since they started season 1 back in January so now they're looking at going through uh and actually
49:46
looking at hero Powers looking at hero roles looking at what they do and seeing
49:52
if they need to be adjusted up or down and in particular because of the interactions interactions are really
49:57
important because you have Team Up abilities where again two Heroes uh when they're on the same team together unlock
50:04
extra abilities or Empower extra abilities uh based off that partnership like if you're Jeff the shark and you're
50:10
with Groot you can climb on groot's back and fire icicles from the back of Groot you can do the same thing if you're
50:16
rocket but Jeff is cuter than rocket fight me um if you're with if you're
50:22
with uh Luna the who's an ice uh mutant uh in you are with Jeff you fire ice
50:28
shards as your alternate fire as opposed to your normal just spitting lugies at
50:34
them uh so they're going to look at stuff like that and see what the power level is and and adjust them as they need to uh as they need to going
50:42
forward they're also looking at certain things like player rewards so players who reach gold rank or above will
50:48
receive the invisible women blood Shield costume reward again we're going after Dracula in the dark hold makes sense uh
50:55
and then anybody who reaches G Grandmaster rank or above will get a crest of Honor uh so yeah it's
51:02
there's lot of stuff potentially coming we don't know all the details of everything else um but the other thing
51:08
we do know is that right now only the thing in the human torture announced for release with this when it goes live
51:16
however blade was Data mind and so there is go ahead but I heard that uh my
51:22
Marvel Rivals had been seeding false information into their packages so that like people Data Mining and looking for
51:28
Heroes might not be they might be saying oh but there's stuff about blade in here but he might not actually be coming
51:34
which is possible but it's also a fully rigged character model with all animations and abilities that sounds
51:41
just like just what they want you to think which may be the case but it would also be the perfect way to end a Dracula
51:46
based season with by the way here's blade right like so we'll see uh but I'm
51:52
really excited to see that they're that they're continuing to develop the game they're listening to feedback they're
51:58
looking at balance which again is such a major thing in these types of game especially when you're doing something
52:03
that like Powers feed off of each other or characters feed off each other and as you add more characters and More Heroes
52:09
you have to keep looking at that versus I'm just going to release this new broken hero everybody is going to buy it
52:15
because you just get them for having them congratulations uh for playing the game you just get access right uh so they
52:22
want to make sure that it's a balanced fun and playable game so so far so good good I'm Still rocking the game I still
52:28
enjoy it uh and uh yeah I'm excited to see this season release what the changes
52:35
are going to be and how that's going to affect competitive play because it will absolutely affect competitive I kept it
52:42
short I tried really really hard no it's I'm I was actually really
52:48
interested I was also a little interested you didn't talk about you know what what's coming after this what
52:53
did do we know anything about what the next season's going to themed around okay that's that something worried about
52:59
they're they're playing they're playing it close to the chest and I think that's part of it is there is a level of Marvel
53:05
involvement or Disney involvement in this because again it seemed weird to
53:10
have a Dracula themed season but then be releasing the Fantastic 4 um famously
53:16
not really had like they've had some run-ins with Dracula but not nearly as much as others like so it seemed like a
53:22
weird thing to add those in instead of characters that were in the Marvel Comics or based around like Dracula like
53:30
blade or add in any of the moonnight uh Pantheon of characters that dealt with
53:35
them or any of the other Avengers that dealt with them because don't forget there was a whole Avengers uh you know
53:40
group that did it or the midnight Suns who dealt with him a lot right like what
53:46
no ghost rider yet so there's some questionable choices at least on that that seemed to be well there's a new uh
53:53
Fantastic 4 movie coming out uh at the time of this recording I I think in like a week less than a week something like
53:59
that right away no uh it fan for uh it's the new Captain America movie that comes
54:05
out that's right Valentine's Day yeah yeah yeah yeah uh the Fantastic May yeah
54:10
yeah that's right but I mean still soon right and if the season ends in April and the movie comes out in May there you
54:17
go so definitely seems like a little uh little kitzing but we'll probably find out
54:22
we'll probably find out that what the next season's going to be probably closer to the end of this season okay this I'm going to mention this really
54:28
fast so then we can on to some site news because we've got some sight news to mention uh I don't know if people have
54:34
noticed that cyberpunk 2077 which is basically got one expansion and said okay we're done this is the final major
54:41
um patch of the game has then since had two huge patches um there's a new cyberpunk animated series being made for
54:48
Netflix uh that was announced about four months ago and apparently there's at
54:54
least one if not more patch is coming in the future which kind of like this this
54:59
game has been out since 2020 like December of 2020 this is its fifth year out it's had a rocky development time
55:06
it's it's been you know it's gone from broken on multiple platforms to you know
55:11
extremely good reviews and and you know it's sort of sort of a small no man's Sky Redemption Arc for cyberpunk 2077 um
55:20
but one of the things I thought was pretty interesting was I recently saw some commentary talking about the most recent uh CD project dread you know
55:27
talking about their financials and so forth um neither uh Orion which is the
55:32
new cyberpunk project nor Polaris which is the new Witcher project neither of those games is coming out before 2026 no
55:40
but we did get a teaser for the new Witcher one at least yeah um but as a
55:45
result of that and with the the the presidents of of CD project red have
55:50
made the point that their numbers are climbing on the game still mhm it's been
55:57
a year since Edge Runners came out and started the the jump and they've still
56:02
got new people coming in that means at this point CD project Red's got one
56:08
viable current game that they can support without having to develop it all over all over again and that's cyberpunk
56:14
2077 so seeing that they're doing the the animated show considering the bump
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that they got from Edge Runners if they're doing a new in-house one it's not it's not done by the same people
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that did uh Edge Runners they might be pushing something but it's very hard to
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tell because they don't really talk very much about things until they actually have them and they're like oh yeah this is coming out um but I wanted to mention
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it because it's been interesting to watch the the steam numbers keep going up uh it is worth mentioning that steam
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when you're talking about a game by CD project red steam numbers are not the the place you're going to find the
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majority of people who are diard CD project red fans because they have their own they have their own platform they
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have Gog if you're going to buy the game you might buy it from them through their own platform and that's something that
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kind of Skuse it but it also means there's not as much there's no real DRM on it which is nice uh I like that
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anyway I just want to mention it because it is something I've been kind of paying attention to I've actually even started playing it again God help me seriously
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God help me why am I playing it again I've played this game a lot why am I back but regardless I am back so it is
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an interesting example of what a single player RPG can do if a game company
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continues to support it and continues to improve it and continues to roll things out for it you're saying that numbers
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have increased and just in the past week we've heard from EA that uh uh dragon AG
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the veil guard sales were disappointing and they will not be releasing any more patches they have reassigned many
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members of bioware's team to other teams at EA and have laid some of them off and
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they do not plan on doing anything else with Dragon Age The Veil guard but we have seen in stories like cyberpunk
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20177 how a game company continuing to support a game continuing to develop a game can mean long-term higher
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engagement numbers and kind of feel disappointed because it feels like EA
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gave up on this game maybe before it was even released because even on release
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they were like there's not going to be any DLC you know this is all you're getting we're not doing anymore we're
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all they they've reassigned people as soon as the game launched out the door they did a few bug fix patches and now
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now that's it it's hard to invest in a game when the company doesn't invest in the game yeah I mean plus I mean you
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know EA is of course you know literally run by smog whereas you C project is run
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by fallible humans but they at least actually are humans uh again I would not be surprised to go to EA's headquarters
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somewhere and be you know ushered down into the Subterranean depths of of you know Mount Doom where I'd find a giant
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dragon sleeping on a pile of of game discs going oh do we still make these I love these they so good to sleep on but
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that's pretty much it for stuff to talk about and we should probably do the
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probably going to wrap it up for us Joe I think we're at time so I just want to give everyone a little bit of sight news
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