The Gen X of Diablos

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hello everybody and welcome to the Blizzard watch podcast I'm Matt and this week apparently I'm trying to be the the
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guy who introduces you to mystery movies on on AMC or or you know box or whatever
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I'm not that guy but you know apparently that's what I'm doing uh with me this week are of course uh our fantastic crew
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as it were I'd like to think of them as like we're we're an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation and uh Liz is the
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captain obviously uh Liz oh um Joe is Joe is like the the Jordy SL Warf I
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guess I wanted to be a Hur all right you can be her that's a good one that's a good one uh Liz P I don't know you
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haven't been on that many times so I haven't really nailed down who would you like to be since we're we're going with that I would like to be Dr Crusher okay
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so she I just watched an episode where Dr Crusher Saves the Day by knowing about metaphasic shielding I just
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watched the weird ghost episode we're going to talk about that one day no
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we're not not right now not right now and finally uh I'm I'm your Outsider
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character that sometimes it's a Vulcan sometimes it's a robot except that I have a ton of feelings all the time so I
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guess I'm warfish I'm fairly wary yeah also I get my I get like slapped around
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a lot so that that someone else coming in looks tough uh they get to beat me up I I guess that's my other role but
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anyway this diversion into madness uh aside we're going to talk about blizzard
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and its games right now uh so yeah there we go uh the first thing we got on the warcraft thing I'm reading this and I
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was very happy to read it and I can't wait to tell my wife um Marksmanship Hunters they've been there's been a
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whole thing about the Marksmanship revamp uh in patch 11 and recently as in
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I'm just looking at it now apparently they've decided yeah no you have to keep your pets if you want to keep your pets
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uh for Marksman by my understanding it's like it is now you can choose to go without a pet or you can choose to have
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a pet it's like it's a choice instead of just saying no Marksman ship Hunters don't get pets so it's I I think it's
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good choices are good yeah there's apparently a node on improved spotters Mark which is the thing that they were
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using to to put up the pet the the eagle pet you can essentially get your your
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call Pet and Associated pet functions back uh M men pet dismiss pet Etc um it
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also improves the durability and damage output to your pet to better compensate for the potential uh throughput loss
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because you they're losing a lot of stuff like Master's Call blood lust all that stuff it's going to be from the eagle instead of from their pet that
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they have uh so yeah um I think that's a pretty good choice uh it's a good thing
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to do for people who don't want to not have their pet I and I know a lot of people like just play Beast mastery but
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I think it goes back to when when warlocks lost metamorphosis yeah when it go back to
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any time that a class loses something whether or not someone else gets it it's just the fact that you lost it you don't
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have it anymore it doesn't feel great in and sometimes these things kind of have to happen like classes get bloated we
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all remember the Warlords of dran or class blo Purge right give me back Sentry totem you cowards well yeah
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Sentry totem and it's it's its ability to keep you falling forever that was fun in my opinion could switch back and
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forth between the totem and your plummeting body and every time you went back to the totem your plummeting body went back to the top um people will be
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like why is this happening but anyway yeah so that's that's the deal uh I'm now going to open this up to reactions
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from you guys I'm going to start with uh Liz Omega I think that's one of us is
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that Liz Alpha you're alha I'm the other side of the coin um I
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I was actually so excited that I uh when I saw the article come up in the
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feed from um Wowhead I looked up who we
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answered the question for last week um I think it was uh daju and and I was like
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tagging here look you got your wish it was really it was it was just delightful
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um okay then now we go to Liz Alpha I nothing that that I haven't already said
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it's good good to have please it's great to have choices F
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time uh I I have to agree with that though I do think it's one of the things in game design as a player not although
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I do also do stuff like Run games and and have actually wrote a game but nobody liked it um I do think it's nice
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when stuff isn't just ripped out but you do get a choice between options I I like
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that better so I think this is a good move however I think Joe you've played a
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hunter for a very long time you weren't you were not at all bothered by the the Marksmanship change if I'm correct if
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I'm remembering wrong that's fine just tell me I'm wrong no that's correct I wasn't bothered by it at all and I have
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absolutely been playing since since the the vanilla days so what do you think about this change are you okay with it
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it doesn't again it's either way it's fine uh I am glad that people have
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Choice um but it didn't bother me one way or another yeah I I I play a hunter
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but very rarely like I've got a hunter and I level them in every expansion but I don't usually get to max level before
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the next expansion because it's just not I mean there's just so many times you can get ishi that I'm giving up to play
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to play the hunter I I I don't I already have 16 of them in the bank but I'd like to have more um so yeah there's always
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that problem at the same time though it's easy for me to see the problem because as somebody who played a warrior since
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forever if and when they take stuff out after they give it to you I'm looking right at you Gladiator stance uh it does
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feel bad like I I to this day we had this brief Glory moment where you could play uh a a sword and board Warrior and
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do damage you could be a DPS sword and board Warrior and now we can't and it is
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depressing um even though the the I'll be the one to say this a lot a lot of Warrior players won't say this the spec
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was terrible it didn't work it it just didn't work it wasn't actually fun to
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play it wasn't it was the of it was was was marvelous the execution of it was as
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best they could do and I don't feel like it ever really hit a point where it felt
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like say a blood DEC a tanking blood DEC who still feels viable because he pumps
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out the damage that wasn't going to be Gladiator stance and it's unfortunate because but in the end they made a right
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decision when they got rid of it it still makes me sad but I do understand why they did it and so I I even
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understand why they did it with Marksman I get where they were going they wanted to make Marksman a more focused spec the
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problem they have is that a lot of their players don't want it to be a focused Speck they want it to be exactly the
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spec that they have been playing or they want it to at least feel like the spec they have been playing so I get it but I
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am still glad they made the choice uh because people are happy and I like it when people get happy it's it's generally nice uh next thing to talk
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about here is one that I was actually hoping for because I love it when Liz talks about this kind of stuff uh Liz
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Alpha sorry I don't mean to confuse you um there's no sign of cataclysm classic phase 4 um blizzard announced the return
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of the joy Journey's plus 50% XP buff up to level 85 which is available for a
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limited time and uh until the next major cataclysm classic content update but
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doesn't commit to when that might be although it does suggest it's close um our guess is that P4 will sneak in right
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at the end of the month possibly split in half to stretch out the content unless M of Pandaria classic comes out
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this summer I wanted to ask you about that Liz uh yeah yeah do you think they
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could get away with pushing it back to end February or even end March or do you think that they just they cannot do that
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they has to get come out sooner I I think they I think they said it was coming out in January and of course
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blizzard has pushed back things before it's it's a thing they can do there's nothing that makes it impossible I mean
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I think either way it's a problem either you're splitting it in half when it's a phase that it's a raid and it's I
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believe three Dungeons and um let's see Legendary fangs of the father Quest a new tol
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barad boss the dragon soul raid of course and three level 85 dungeons in
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time uh in time well of fraternity and hour of Twilight yeah so you got the time walking dungeons you've got the
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raid you've got uh the new PVP boss yeah that is a lot and and the legendary set
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for rogue so if you're splitting this in half I I mean you could you could say okay dragon soul is going to come out
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and then we're going to add these dungeons or these dungeons are coming out and then we're going to add dragon soul but I think it's going to feel kind
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of skimpy as a phase if you split it in half I there's a lot of content in the
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raid and those three dungeons but I still think it's going to be a little skimpy if you cut it in half and so I
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think either way it's going to feel like you're you're dragging your feet or you're trying to stretch out thin
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content to fill a potentially very long period of space phase four is the last phase for cataclysm classic and the next
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uh classic classic expansion content I guess you would say is not until the
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summer when M of Pandaria classic comes out so that when do you put phase four
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in that do you put it right now when you said it was going to come out or do you split it up into tiny mini phases and
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space them out do you push this back I think no matter what they do there's going to be kind of light content and a
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pretty significant Gap and that's unfortunate of course we do have a lot of stuff with classic going on but if
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you enjoy this kind of Mainline classic progression yeah it sounds like it's
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it's going to be a little slow like cataclysm has slowed down a little bit I mean of course we got the anniversary
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Realms we got season of Discovery Realms we've got the classic Original Classic Realms where you can play vanilla
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forever uh but yeah cataclysm feels like it kind of ran out of steam it was
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almost like blizzard forgot about about it until it was just today that they announced uh that joyous sty buff was
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coming back but I think it's also go ahead it's also kind of a a weird sign that they won't say how long it's going
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to last the fact that it exists yeah when is this coming out when is it going to be done when are we getting the next
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patch yeah it is interesting I mean the fact that it's here suggests that the next phase is relatively close but it's
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like okay when when is the next phase are you going to tell us or are you just keeping it a secret forever I don't know
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point we're at the the 20th right or is it 21st today yeah it's the 21st as we are recording this oh my God time is
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already moving too fast tell us to stop next week is the 28th and then you'll be
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into February then it's February so if if they were going to do it like if they
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did it the first week of February it would be understandable that it just happened to be they wanted to put it out
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during a during the the actual reset so they put it out on Tuesday um but it
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does still kind of feel weird to think about the fact that if if it comes out then then you are essentially looking at
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February March April May and probably June of nothing new and that's a f Monon
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gap which is certainly better than the actual Gap at the end of cataclysm that we had back then I think that was 18
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months uh but it's also kind of nuts at the same time so I mean maybe they're
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maybe they're just assuming that everyone's going to go off and play The Anniversary Realms I blizzard is the one
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that has the numbers here they know how popular anniversary Realms are they know how popular cataclysm is like when they
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release a phase how popular is this going to be they know that we are guessing so maybe they're just assuming
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everyone just wants to play those anniversary Realms yeah we can we can hold on this but okay let me I want to
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make sure that I get everybody gets a chance to say something about this before we jump on uh so um Liz Omega and
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Joe anything in particular you want to say before we move on not really I'm like you said um like they're doing
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better job with the Cadence of releases in classic than they did in the original game and I feel like that's only for the
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good Joe yeah but I feel like doing better than the Cadence of releases in in classic is not a real high bar to
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jump over I mean to be fair were two different time time frames right like
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and I love bringing this up because I always think it's one of the most fascinating things the Behemoth that became World of Warcraft is a thing that
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they never thought was going to live past a year so they weren't planning any additional content so when they got to
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that point they're like what do we do um so like seeing this and and everything
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else that's fine but yeah you've you you guys have basically covered it so there's really not much else that for me to add okay then I get to mention
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something that I think is pretty cool and actually kind of touches upon what Liz said earlier which is that wild classic season of Discovery season 7 is
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releasing next week on the 28th uh with naar ram opening on February 6th it
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feels to me like that could be the thing they're counting on as much as the you
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know the classic classic Realms is the season of Discovery stuff and they're
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going I I wanted to mention this bit before we continue talking about it just because this is really cool the NEX ramas is going to let you Empower each
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quarter to add new mechanics and empowering the quarter will increase the difficulty across the entire raid um so
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I think that's I think that part is really interesting because you could like Empower a quarter but it makes
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everything else harder and then if you Empower another quarter it makes everything else harder so that seems
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like an interesting twist that's this reminds me a little bit of what they tried to do back when they were doing
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the uh the the the oh lord I can't remember the name of the bloody raid the Blackwing lir raid where they they put
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in mechanics they've been and they did it for and carage also they added uh
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kind of a kind of a gambling mechanic where each you would get an extra reward and you could grab that reward or you
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try to get an even better reward by fighting the next boss yeah and that's
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there's a lot of interesting things that they've been attempting here I I like the idea of NEX Ras getting empowered
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because I mean this is this is original NEX ramas and at the time it came out uh
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the mechanics were so punishing that like many people couldn't clear it um and part of that was also because the
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the lag because I remember uh there was some some really intense lag especially
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like on Ma maxina the big spider because you had to get those things open like as
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soon as you could and any any latency would destroy you so I'm interested to see if like how this feels like the idea
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of empowering each quarter and effectively making the raid harder and harder will will people be doing that
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like will people like empower the raid a lot will will we see people pursuing like a full clear of a fully empowered
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raid will you go ow can you empow empower the quarter and then go and Empower another quarter before you go in
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have we have we know do we know about that yet well it's only testing on the PTR so we don't know all of the details
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yet um I do not know that that would be interesting thing if you can empower the
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entire raid up up front like if you can just go and Empower each quarter and then start pulling after you've done all
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four um because then then you have a fully empowered raid for everything even like some of the starting bosses were
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some of the worst bosses in next in in Max Romas uh I still remember the Widow
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uh she was a nightmare like the first boss in spider wi I can't remember her name but she was just so hard because
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she had those those jerks with her and and she could use them to do things to you and you had Romas was hard
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yeah or or the boss I think I don't remember I he was death KN boss I don't know if he was the first boss or the
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second boss but the one that had the the people you had to mind control rvus that was the the first boss in the Death
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Knight Wing and uh that was the one that I have my my favorite story of playing a hunter because we figured out that our
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mind controlling team was not very good but we figured out distracting shot worked and we had five Huns that were
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very good at feain death yes so you kep basically bouncing those guys out of the raid with
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distracting shot no we would kill them and then we would distracting shot bounce rvus because this is before they put uh diminishing returns on TA in oh
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oh that would work yeah so we just stand at five quarters like the five like furthest edges of the room and Just
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Bounce him back and forth don't him out of the don't C him out of the circle because then he reset yeah no that makes
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sense that's actually also I think you were thinking of uh Grand Widow ferina thank you that is who I was thinking of
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grand Widow ferina that was that was another really hard like the opening bosses were not Chumps like the first
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boss you fought in each Wing that they weren't easy uh so yeah I'm I'm really
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interested to seeing how this empowered thing works uh but since I feel like we've andless do we have anything does
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anybody have anything else to say about nexas no it makes me nostalgic because I like in which we try to remember the of
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nexas bosses just place no you you said you said max or
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maxina and I immediately um that that of
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you have to have her pointing at the wall and across the room from the raid but everybody is spread out but oh I
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like you got but you still got to kill those cocoons when they grab people and yeah
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but okay this one the next thing to talk about which I think is actually very interesting is turbulent time wses
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continuing this week it's Legion dungeons so black rold cord of stars
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darkart Thicket I of asara larian Lair vault of the wardens um I don't like
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Vault of the wardens I I don't I don't like it because tanking it was very hard because everything was dark and I didn't
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know where she was um but I still actually like it better than some
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dungeons from other expansions so uh I actually kind of like a few of these like I think Rook hold was black Rook
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hold was a lot of fun I it just you run up the stairs and keep dragging things along and hey there's traps I don't know
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I I enjoyed it I don't know if other people did last last week it was cataclysm which I'm a
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little kind of kind of like blizzard is a little about cataclysm I am also a
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little about cataclysm so I did not do I did not do any time walking last week I
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like a lot of cataclysm stuff but Grim Bal I really did not enjoy as a tank
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first off my my worst experience so different now yeah well they didn't they
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rework it for um uh Mythic plus they did is going to be yeah yeah is it Mythic
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plus now or will it be Mythic Plus in the next Grim Bal is Mythic plus now and it is one of my favorite ones to run on
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Mythic actually is the dragon thing less annoying yeah well in my opinion yes uh they also made
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the first boss less annoy and more predictable um I think we talked about this on the podcast previously but like
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it is my favorite dungeon rework that they have done period I really really love it I'm glad that it's enjoyable now
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I just I have bad memories of because totally valid totally valid but so I mean here we go this week uh Liz are you
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planning on doing Legion dungeons because you said you missed last week and I know that you have to get I would you have to do five and we have five
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left so I mean on one hand I've been just I get to the end of the day and
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it's like I look at logging onto Warcraft and I'm like I'm I'm just tired so I haven't done the last two weeks if
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I want to get that timely Busby I need to do the next five weeks and I think my
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problem is I like log on on nights when the rest of the guild isn't doing time walking and then I just don't do time
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walking because I don't want to just lfg that stuff yeah that's understandable uh how about you either of you two have you
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been doing it do you have your Buzby planned out oh yeah I've been doing it on actually surprisingly enough a
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paladin have you been healing on the Paladin nope I've been blowing things up because setting things on fire and and
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stabbing things with a giant light sword it turns out it's real fun fun I I now
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accept it if you were gonna tell me you were healing on a paladin I was gonna have to go any other room and have sad
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music no I I I I have I have almost all of the healing classes are healing
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capable classes at maximum I have tried all of them at least once nah I'm good
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Shaman's where I'm at I'm happy there yeah it's like seriously I I've
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healed on both a shaman and a paladin but not recently on the shaman or the Paladin really I didn't heal on the
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Paladin since this expansion started I I liked Paladin Healing but I didn't think it would be something you would like
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like I imagine Joe being into this Paladin Healing Paladin Healing changes
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radic I think I think it makes radical changes more often than any other healer and not
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just like oh no I need to I need to pick this talent instead of that Talent it's like oh no now I'm in melee and now I'm
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not oh no now I need to get rid of all the Mastery I've been building up and change to crit and it like every few
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patches a radical change like now oh holy power abilities are the only abilities to use oh now Mana abilities
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are the only abilities to use and who even cares about holy power it just it's all over the place constantly it's
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wild crazy you like you and I were talking about it last expansion towards
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the end of the end of the the expansion and like you and I having those late night discussions about how Paladin
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Healing went was just like I was infuriated and I wasn't healing on a paladin but that aside I will say that
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the one really really good thing about the turbulent time ways is if you're considering trying something as a a
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different class it is a really lowrisk like thing to do with it right like it
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now's your time you want to level an alt and figure out how to how to heal on that that Paladin or that priest or that
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monk Now's the Time to do it if you want to learn how to tank Now's the Time To Do It um they tend to be tuned a little
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bit lower um some of them are still pain like dark heart ticket the the last hallway is uh and the last hallway and
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the blood hallway are still bad uh but now's the perfect time to level your
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alts uh even if you don't if you don't care about getting the Busby which I mean it's adorable why would why
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wouldn't you want to be friends the bees are friends um wouldn't it be nice but
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you could easily you could easily do that and easily try those out and see if like if you're considering a different spec or a different class it's a really
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good opportunity I love turbulent time waste for this I level so many characters when this is active so many
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okay uh anybody else before we move on okay I'm I'm kind of glad lizo is here
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because now you're lizo geez I'm shortening Omega what the heck I can just
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call lizo now you're gonna have to like rap or something I and play a FL yeah
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she's can do both those things my childhood friend was a bass player for lizo for a while anyway continue yeah um
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first up this one I just uh found out yesterday when I I started playing yeah technically it was today wow time uh
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when I played Diablo 4 for a while but like season of Witchcraft Diablo 4 season of Witchcraft season 7 it's now
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up I don't know yet if I like it or not I can't tell but I I do like smashing things on a Barbarian so it kind of
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balances out um Liz and you know which Liz I'm talking to uh what do you think
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of it what do you what are your observations have you had a chance to play yet oh yeah um Liz Harper was
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getting my observations in flight AS and I do mean in flight because I was
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flying through the initial levels uh when I logged off off um and I don't
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think I logged on until after about an hour after the season had been live by the time I logged off a few hours later
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I was already level 25 like what and I'm not I'm not on penitent I I
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I was on hard uh the The Necromancer uh minion Necromancer right
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now is an absolute level chomping Beast uh it's it's bananas it's absolutely
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wild and you get a frog you get a frog as one of your power
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and the Frog hops along with you and then it explodes for poison damage and then respawns I my one and not to
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mention this is officially the smoothest season launch we've had in the game and
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I'm including vessel of hatred actually going fairly well in that um it it was it was so easy you downloaded the patch
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and and you were in and it was delightful uh but my only gripe is that
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there is so much going on so you're trying to do the seasonal quest line as
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you unlock the various chapters uh through the coven rep board and
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meanwhile like when you're running to a quest you're also in a head hunt Zone
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and there's um let's say five Whispers up and so you're you're getting
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sidetracked doing Whispers and suddenly you know you've unlocked five more steps
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within the rep board and you're I I just need to go to this dungeon and kill a
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thing yeah that's that's actually something Diablo for had for a while but they that does feel like it's magnified
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significantly the whole idea of you know I'm going I'm going oh there's a legion thing happening I'm going I'm going oh
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there's a hell tide happening I'm going a blood thing exacerbated for sure yeah
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um I I do it's a lot I I I definitely do want to actually try to level a character during it but I I jumped on
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with uh the um I I I did when I jumped on I I basically said you know just put
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me at the end of all this stuff because it already done a lot of it uh to level
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up and that was a mistake quite frankly you should just level like just just let level through any content that's there
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but I wanted to be able to get to uh howar as fast as possible yeah I it
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feels like seasons were really designed around skipping the campaign otherwise it takes you forever to get to the new
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content That season and that's it feels like kind of a place where Seasons sort of fail that's like
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the weird place where Diablo 4 breaks because it's like you got this great
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single player Focus story campaign and then you get into Seasons where you're
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starting over and it's like the game actively encourage you encourages you to say okay that great story that we have
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just ignore all of that done already button yeah but it it also feels sad
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it's like oh this great game that you really love this great story it's nah don't bother I said before that I always
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wished they'd stolen the thing from Diablo I where you could just go do it over and over again um the the adventure
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mode and uh mode I kind of wish that was here so you could just go back and do
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any boss in Diablo I whenever you wanted it's just like I'm gonna farm this guy I'm GNA do this and just go back through
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the story I thought that was a fun thing that Diablo 4 really misses and also
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it's a shame because some of the encounters you get while you're going through the story are really interesting
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and I think more interesting than some of the endgame bosses and but you can
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you do that and you never get to do them again and if you click the skip campaign button you can't do them again I will
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say the um the one part that sort of is counter to that that experience and it's
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not even really like story-wise just like you wouldn't get to experience against them otherwise are the lad
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bosses which you don't even really see until end game but you know it's been a
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year and a half are we out of the spoiler window for uh Diablo 4 okay yeah
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I think so yeah so you know you duriel is a blink of an eye and arel is you
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know like h a fight and like a little bit of story beforehand um TAA it's like
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two blinks for andariel yeah it's two blinks for andariel one for is so Blinky
29:03
that when you fight duel you're like what was that your character does know what happened your character literally
29:10
says like at you get out of the fight you're like what what had just happened yeah I like I liked their inclusions in
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the boss ladder because you actually preserve some of that experience yeah at
29:22
least you get to see them again uh like like they had to put in that whole weird thing where you get to go fight the like
29:27
the is it's the Avatar of Lilith or the something yeah yeah so at least you get to fight Lilith again but it is weird
29:34
that they have to jump through so many Hoops I I liked the ability to just go and do it but we shouldn't move on to
29:39
talking about Diablo II season 34 because first off that's happening this Friday if I'm yeah probably probably
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will be live by the time you are listening to this your listeners and uh it's going to be bringing back the
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lights calling theme so you know you know we talked about it we know what that is but I am really finding myself
29:59
like the question here that was asked is one that I was asking myself it's like am I going to be able to play both
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seasons um if I had a switch this would be really hard for me to answer because
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then my wife and I could both Diablo 3 on our switches uh they don't the problem I have with with Diablo II on
30:18
console and stuff is that it doesn't have what Diablo 4 has which is anything that the any device where you can play
30:24
Diablo 4 can play with other people on complete different platforms you don't have the crossplay and cross progression
30:31
and boy I wish you did and what's really funny is that apparently there's there's at least rumors that they're working on
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a D4 um for the switch possibly for switch 2 um and if if when that happens
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I I this would start making Diablo I something I don't play as much quite frankly because because then my wife and
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I could both play at the same time and yeah so don't know about that but I do
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think that this season having both D4 and a D3 season up at the same time is interesting I am curious about everyone
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else's opinion on it so I'm going to start and I'm gonna get Joe because I haven't I felt like he has not been talking for a while and I feel bad no
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you're good we're talking about Diablo I'm I'm kind of out of that game for a little bit okay uh I'll just I I'll try
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to get to the rivals thing as quickly as I can um Liz I play other games Matt
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uhuh well go go ahead whichever Liz is going I think it's really interesting
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they have chosen to launch two Diablo seasons of the same week and uh I I
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believe it was Liz my compatriot Liz who pointed this out that uh actually we
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thought it was going to be delayed to push it back because the okay you're
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going to have to explain this one Liz the last season was pushed back or you
31:54
you you take over for me sort it was sort of pushed back so season 33 of
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Diablo I which is a tongue twister beyond words uh was actually delayed
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start Wise by about 2 weeks because they had a PTR for client improvements for
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Windows and Mac and it ended up being quote unquote very well timed
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coincidentally because it was going to start um season 33 the same week that
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vessel of hatred was due out and we saw the consequence of this delay when a few
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weeks ago the Diablo II season ended very abruptly uh mathematically if you took
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two weeks off uh you landed right when they shut the servers down and uh
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Community Global Community director Adam Fletcher AKA Pez radar was on the for
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forums and on Twitter that day that everything went down which was also a Sunday at the times when these servers
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would normally shut down for the season saying there was a miscommunication not there was an error
33:10
or a bug it was a miscommunication and to me that's scheduling so I thought
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when we did our projections for when season 33 itself would end I had
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originally thought okay they're not going to launch two Diablo Seasons the same week they're going to play it safe
33:29
and space them out again and maybe make uh the Diablo III season 13 weeks
33:34
instead of 12 weeks or 14 weeks and they didn't and now I have Whiplash because
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I'm having a week of Diablo where you know for the next seven days it's gonna be all Diablo all the time we heard you
33:47
like Diablo more Diablo so you can diablo after you Dia which actually leads into
33:53
the next story on this list if we're done talking about Dia 3 actually I'm glad that this is on there if I'm
33:59
allowed to read it out mat sure go for it I'm flexible uh so Diablo II
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darkening of tristam anniversary event ends next week on January 31st so it's
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time to wrap it up in Diablo I for that event the reason why I was excited to read this is because uh will there be
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any issues if I cite a a YouTube video I don't think so no unless it's got swears
34:25
in it don't don't swear there is there is a YouTuber who has been devoted
34:31
YouTube videos and guides for Diablo I for years now called filthy casual I
34:36
love that I love that name and he actually pointed out an excellent trick
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for if you're leveling uh before darkening of Tristram ends you can go to
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the magic rock on what is it called The Labyrinth when it's on level five or is
34:54
it still the cathedral uh I think it's Labyrinth when it's level five yeah thank you so Labyrinth level five
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there's the magic Rock and you click it and it gives you gems and believe it or not it can give you enough gems to help
35:07
you unlock one of your alter of Rights Powers early and that is that that that
35:12
is a big power boost for you know the the four to 10 hours you spend leveling
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to 70 but that is that is a significant booster uh it is [ __ ] of tristem ending
35:25
mean while means it'll be up it's it going to be up for like a week of yeah
35:31
the of the Season 34 so you you might even be doing it with lights calling
35:36
Powers um if you decide to do a new season character during that week and
35:41
you get a chance you so yeah I I think this is kind of like literally this is
35:47
you know we heard you like Diablo so we put some Diablo in your Diablo so you can play Diablo while you Diablo that's
35:52
literally what this is um I mean we don't have we don't have a new Diablo 2 season that's the only thing we're
35:59
missing in this Confluence of Diablo you know we have the new Diablo 4 season we have the new Diablo 3 season we have the
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Diablo I anniversary event in which you can play Diablo 1 in Diablo I Diablo I is the only one missing out on this
36:13
insane week of Diablo yeah they're probably like hey guys guys we we've got our own stuff we just can't right now
36:19
okay we just can't we're tired Diablo Diablo I is the uh the Gen X of the Diablo franchise they're just
36:26
like that's tired that's not bad yeah I I understand that reference let's put it
36:32
that way Al righty Hearthstone stuff Heroes of Starcraft mini set has been released as of January 21st which is
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today as we're recording this and uh we talked about this before I I think the basics are fine we just say this is a
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set of Starcraft themed cards for Hearthstone yeah exactly so I those are
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those are live you can buy them with real money or you can buy them with gold buy them with gold though the
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all okay this is about to get confusing the all golden set of hearthstone mini
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set cards is actually very expensive if you buy it with gold it's also very expensive if you buy it with money I
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recommend just buying the normal set which is 2500 gold you get a lot of cards you get a lot of cards for that
37:15
there's nothing e there's nothing extra in terms of gameplay or power in getting the gold set the gold set is just pretty
37:21
and it isy it's just it's shiny it's shiny but in terms of like playing the game if you're just going to play the
37:27
game then just get the back it's the same stuff the shiny is shiny but it it
37:33
conveys no gameplay benefits except being like three times the cost yeah
37:39
which I mean if that's a game benefit for you I don't understand but sure I just have to spend more gold I can't I
37:45
have to like okay whatever but yeah that's one basically again it's Starcraft themed characters there's the
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Teran Zerg and protos and you just try to get various packs to to you know work
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on the event which is Heroes of Starcraft um from January 21st to
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February 11th so and you you still have the minis set after it isn't going away yeah you can you can buy yeah you can
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buy the mini set anytime the event it just looks like a pretty standard event you'll have some quests you'll complete
38:18
quest to earn event XP and progress along the little event rewards track the only weird thing is you have to pick the
38:26
rewards you want you can choose to be Teran or protos and you only get the rewards for that one each one ends with
38:33
a skin a hero skin that is specific to that faction so you have to choose you have to choose your favorite you can't
38:39
get all of them so yeah okay um that's that's it for Hearthstone there's
38:45
another thing here I'm not reading it so as I was instructed so we're gonna move on um other
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games I saw a thing I wanted to mention really briefly before we talk about any of these which was that on on Reddit
38:57
somebody made a really interesting uh post saying that Path of Exile 2 really makes me appreciate Diablo 4 and it's
39:04
not a negative post it's actually them saying I really enjoy Path of Exile and Path of Exile 2 but by playing that Path
39:10
of Exile 2 I now appreciate more all the stuff that Diablo 4 does that isn't like Path of Exile uh it isn't like Diablo I
39:17
it's it's Unique and I'm I now like that game too which is something I think we need to like really be aware of it's
39:25
actually good to play different games mhm and and look at them they don't you
39:30
don't have to to be like on a side you don't have to pick you don't have to like there's no team loyalty necessary
39:36
between Path of Exile and Diablo or any other games like either of them you can play them both you can like them both
39:42
granted there's that time Factor so you may have to pick one because you just don't have time but nevertheless I liked
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it I thought it was a cool post I am still I'm getting more and more excited about path of xile 2 as I see stuff
39:55
about the beta and and get ready for it to come out so yeah but anyway first one
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on this one uh was going to be Marvel snap but I'm going to let Joe talk about Rivals instead so we got Marvel Rivals
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Chinese New Year event Joe talk about it there's not a like there's not a lot a lot to talk about and we'll be uh
40:12
there's going to be a post about this after I get my my thoughts collected on the side as well but this spring go
40:17
ahead I have Twisted Joe's arm into writing about a game that he loves you you you twisted my arm I don't think is
40:24
actually what happened you asked for volunteers and I came of the woodwork anyway um so the Spring Festival which
40:29
is actually going to start on January 23rd so in a couple days of of the time of this recording uh it's going to
40:35
introduce what they call a uh new limited uh play mode called Clash of
40:41
dancing Lions um which I think is really really fun because it's basically Lucio
40:47
ball with more characters which if you've ever played Lucio ball it's all Lucio all the time all the way down in a
40:54
giant soccer arena it's like rocket League but Lucio uh which is fun and it
41:00
was fun when it released um but in this one you're actually going to get three different characters that you can play
41:05
for each side um so each team is going to have a black widow an Iron Fist and a
41:10
Star-Lord which all have very unique movement mechanics as well as uh different abilities that I think are
41:16
going to interact in a very fun way with the ball uh and you're enti and they're
41:21
going to be in their new dancing lion skins which Liz and I had a little bit of a disagreement about with some of
41:26
them um but I think it's actually going to be really really interesting um because
41:33
it's really the first true non Mainline special event that Marvel Rivals has
41:39
done uh and it makes sense it's a Chinese company and doing it where the the Chinese uh Spring festival or New
41:46
Year uh makes perfect sense we don't know how long it's going to run to but
41:52
uh it we think that it's going to uh coincide with the Lunar New Year celebration and probably ends somewhere
41:58
in February um probably around February 19th give or take uh but I think it's
42:03
really really interesting and of course it's an OverWatch Style game so we're going to get new skins tons of Star-Lord
42:10
tons of uh uh you know man words are hard today I've not had nearly enough caffeine uh you're going to get your
42:17
black widow and you're going to get your uh your iron fist for sure they're probably going to have more information they've been sneakily just kind of like
42:23
hiding things I don't want to say but like kind of like on the download just kind of like doing stuff in the background um like there's a leak out
42:30
there right now and I don't want to talk too much about leaks because you know they're leaks uh but there's a rumor of
42:36
like a PVE mode being in the works for the game which makes sense because right now the big storyline is while the
42:42
overarching story is we're going after Doom uh currently we're going after Dracula so if you give me a raid on
42:48
Dracula's castle as like a PVE encounter I am so in I am so in so hard my Jeff
42:56
the land shark will put an icicle through Dracula's heart let's go I'm here is is Doom playable or is he just
43:02
an NPC no he's a he's a boss he's the big bad that's well the thing is is they
43:08
could go many different ways with the story too and at some point when we defeat Doom he could become a playable
43:14
character right like I like that and then they have the next big bad and then they they do something else with it like
43:21
they have plent option Doom you could have a doom show up to fight Doom since there's time travel and dimensional
43:26
stuff going on one Doom could definitely dislike another Doom there's there's a level of that there's a multiversal
43:32
thing going on I would also be thrilled if they got one of the things I love about Doom is the fact that he often uses Doom instead of his name or I I
43:40
mean Doom is his name but he he would be like Doom requires V you know a mochaccino doom is unhappy with the
43:46
weather today so I would love it if Doom is like Doom thinks Doom is a fool anyway go on yeah I was gonna say
43:54
uh there there's going to be a bunch of umth themed skins being coming back um
44:00
and things like that so like there's there's going to be plenty of of content to consume if you're into Cosmetics uh
44:06
and if you just want to try the game uh it's always a good time to to you know
44:13
it's free to play try the special event everybody's going to be on equal footing for a while uh and yeah it's I I think
44:20
it's a game that and I will this is going to be a whole Spiel at some point
44:26
if you Miss what OverWatch 2 could have been you want to try this game that's it
44:32
that's all I got well then we will move on to the thing we were going to talk about but I personally didn't want to
44:37
talk about it all that much because I don't have a lot to say uh but Marvel snap got banned in the US during the Tik
44:43
Tok shutdown uh which is now over apparently because it was a thing the um
44:49
the newsworthy part of I was gonna say the newsworthy part of it is really that like it caught Everybody by surprise
44:54
like it was a we didn't understand how that was linked and I don't know that uh
45:01
Second breakfast did either cuz they were scrambling but it's back and playable so uh that's good it's just
45:07
very interesting to see the ripples of things yeah um that pretty much sums it up uh I yeah I'm gonna move on to the
45:15
Nintendo switch announcement because I don't really feel like we could talk any further about the Marvel snap thing unless we start talking about things
45:22
iank don't need to be upet about uh Nintendo switch 2 announced really that as Liz used to have a thing she used to
45:28
say about video game press and video game announcements was that oftentimes they were announcements of announcements
45:34
it was like Hey we're gonna do an announcement that that's the announcement yes there will be another
45:40
announcement that's what this is um they announced that the switch 2 is happening that's good that's news then they're
45:47
like did then T you know tune into to our our April things and then you'll actually find out anything about this
45:53
which is annoying they did show us the console and we we got some information
46:00
but it's also it's it's a little bit of information and we're going to find out more information later they they didn't
46:08
just they didn't just make like a blog post and say hey Nintendo switch to
46:13
information in April and they didn't just hold a big event and say event more information in April they did
46:20
actually show us images of the new console but not much more than that well
46:26
they they did to the point where I I one of the reasons I I mentioned this the way I did is that I watched a lot of
46:31
content about it in the in the wake of its the release of the fact that it's coming and a lot of that content was
46:37
literally people sitting there with the going over the images of the switch 2
46:42
how it differs from the switch one like the zuder film like like just just half
46:47
an hour of explaining to me that the joycons are they going to drift as much we don't know how are they going to
46:53
connect to the switch are they going to the current joycon slide in and out but these new ones are apparently going to
46:59
plug in will they hold in as well we we already have answers to some of those so yeah yeah but my point is just that it
47:05
it felt an awful lot like people were going nuts trying to come up with something to tell me about the switch to
47:11
it's that's what I'm saying yeah it's it but that's also because it's one of the most anticipated consoles of recent year
47:17
uh it happened during the the you know what is it the the electronics show for
47:24
2025 uh C2 or whatever um and like they had to release something because rumors
47:32
and leaks were going rampant and people were all sorts of misinformation were coming out and they were like no it's
47:39
real you're going to get more information be cool uh but the things that we did find out were that the
47:45
joycons are going to be magnetic the joycons in the console are going to be larger Doc is going to be thinner uh and
47:52
the interesting thing for me which is not part of the article but happened at the same time is that there is a new
47:58
system on a chip uh that appears to be specifically geared at handhelds that
48:04
was just trademark at c2e um or during c2e and is already in the cataloges for
48:13
uh companies like Lenovo and because the switch one was based off of the original
48:18
Nvidia Shield uh which it was we know that it was we know that that that they they base it off of that using mobile
48:24
chips that were available at the time it is potentially a very interesting and
48:30
disruptive handheld to release when we do find out more information about it so I'm super excited because of all that
48:36
stuff and then we only have to wait till April which honestly isn't that that far till we get the direct about it and it's
48:42
I I mean people are already losing their mind about it I'm I'm definitely one of them yes you are so um at this point uh
48:50
Liz I'm gonna turn over to you because we're basically about to do the questions and that's when we do this uh
48:56
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much and now Matt let's try and do some questions okay um thank you guys uh guys
50:49
I said guys I was one person I'm really starting to having trouble with the two lizes it's like a this not it's not a ah
50:57
M M M it's two different people anyway um if you have a question for the
51:02
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51:08
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51:31
there's lots of ways to ask us questions I'm going to try this first one even though he said it wasn't a serious question but I do think it's kind of
51:36
funny uh this one's from da Kaiju um looking over the upcoming undermine patch they really basically cribbed
51:43
design notes from Mean Streets of gadg in haven't they yes and thank God that
51:49
is my response they should do that I do want to note that uh Mean Streets of gadan which is a little old right now
51:56
that was expansion for Hearthstone which imagined this kind of crazy underground
52:02
world of Gadget xan full of different criminal factions that were vying for
52:08
power and in Hearthstone you could play different criminal leaders and lead into one kind or another and it does sound
52:15
like a undermind in World of Warcraft is going to be a little like that you're going to be helping out different G uh
52:21
Goblin cartels uh with different goals and uh different belief Lea systems
52:27
maybe so I I think it's a great I I think Hearthstone has some great takes
52:33
on Warcraft lore and undermind is kind of the perfect place to take some of
52:39
that because we haven't been to undermind before you we don't have a picture of undermine it would be weird
52:44
if you went to gadan and suddenly it was a whole different place with this criminal underground but you can go to
52:51
undermine and say oh this is this is how it is you can make this kind of content fit there because we don't know what
52:57
it's like and it sort of works with the with the different Goblin cartels we already know uh Joe lizo what you got I
53:05
want to let Liz talk because I've talked a lot so Liz can go first I I I have also talked a lot just mostly about
53:11
Diablo uh I I kind of think it's delightful because I loved the premise
53:16
of a mean Straits of Gadget Anan and I already kind of love some things about
53:21
undermined like the drive system like we're getting literally a custom Goblin
53:27
hot rod to cruise around the city with you're not going to be flying you're going to be zooming around the city like
53:33
a racetrack like that that's so that's so Goblin engineering and I am all here
53:39
for it so yes give me more means streats of Gadget s in my wow I I want it I
53:46
forget who called it this but somebody talking to me who called it um they said it was like the green and the greedy uh
53:53
undermine drift and I I haven't stopped thinking about it since they called it that like you know we a whole series of
53:59
movies with with Goblin gin Diesel and and man you know Vin Diesel would be down to play a goblin because he loves
54:05
you know he loves RPGs and he loves W oh yeah so yeah um but yeah that's that's my thing on it I I I've always thought
54:12
that they should be doing more stuff with with Concepts that came from from Hearthstone um I'm very hopeful at some
54:18
point we'll get to go back to gilas and and kind of have the Witchwood as something we do because I always thought
54:24
that would be cool um and I'd love to see honestly I want I want them to bring back Dr boom and and really go with like
54:31
all that ridiculous like it's unfortunate that they can't Heist dollarin anymore well you know I I have
54:39
some thoughts about that actually because you know in Hearthstone we did have an entire Adventure that was about
54:46
a bunch of bad guys grouping up and stealing dalaran by attaching Rockets to
54:52
it and flying it away yeah well yeah it's a great idea we already know that
55:00
it is a super great idea yes but what if you take this idea and just add some
55:07
time travel to it and so we could have an adventure or a scenario where we go
55:14
back in time and try to steal dalaran and it's like on one hand you're
55:19
stealing a city on the other hand maybe you're rescuing a city from a terrible
55:25
fate in the future it's that I think I think this would work great so that
55:31
would especially be good if they Babylon 5ed it and they took the the city way back in time to like the war of the
55:37
Ancients and used it there to fight off sargis and and the and the whole uh you
55:43
know Bernie Legion and it never comes back so it doesn't actually violate the history of anything because it doesn't
55:49
show up in outside of our you know it's you take it back you fight the uh Bernie Legion with it the dawn of time and then
55:55
you just it back where it was and it gets destroyed anyway um but but I thought that they might do that with
56:01
like say um the jran starter city um because you know yeah they go to the
56:09
exodar first thing they do is get the exodar back up in the air because it right currently isn't um and then they
56:15
put rockets on it and steal it but I don't know I I I just love the idea of various uh I just love the idea of
56:22
various like second or even third tier World of Warcraft villains coming together to do something evil and and
56:28
bigger scale than they would by themselves I just I don't know I'd love I'd like some I like levity and we
56:34
haven't seen a ton of that in Wild yeah the next question also by daiju uh why
56:40
do the vendors on the super expensive auction Mount have the worst seats um that's because vendors on every Mount
56:46
that has ever had vendors have the worst seat I mean the simple answer is just capitalism yeah but I mean like look at
56:52
the the the yak they're they're riding on a post that's then covered in a a stall yeah so yeah that's my take uh Joe
57:00
I believe you just spoke about it yep um but either Liz both lizes no Joe's right
57:08
they they look so weird yeah all right so I guess we're
57:13
moving on to Mr Zuul Mr Blindside um I love all my Tunes some more than others
57:20
but don't tell them logging into the game you get your warband favorites why
57:25
do you think we don't have a moving line of all of our Tunes instead of a static set of four favorites I'm sure with the
57:31
tech in game it's doable but we don't have that option I'm gonna let somebody else talk first come on come on come on
57:37
come on somebody talk I actually have thoughts on this believe it or not then tell us them I so I think that some of
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it is the tech that they used to uh combine your full character list across
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servers uh I also think that to put on my it hat for a second
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pulling that up would be not an expensive query on the database but across all of those account like I I'm
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going to traumatize Joe for a second here it's can can you picture what that uh that what would that be concurrent
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connections no if you're constantly refreshing those character Graphics as
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you scroll across back and forth and back and forth yeah for every server
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remember too every server for every account now currently right now if you
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scroll up and down on the character list on your server you just you're on your server so it's only asking the one
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server but if you had the big rotating daisy chain line yeah it's interesting so I hear what you're saying
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no to Joe it's a you you have a full list of like all of your tunes is not just on that server yeah whereas it's a
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unified list now yeah that's my point is like it's one thing to to be able to scroll down and get one character it's
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another thing to have this belt where you see all the characters exactly whereas if you have a four character cap
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you can actually project your requirements for the resourcing you would need across accounts in that
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particular region yeah I agree that it's just resourcing well it also it also lets you not just combine the resource
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but it lets you make them less than they would be as far as requirements go imagine having to have 16 gigs of RAM
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just to see your your character screen uh right like having the way that it is
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now with a set number of backgrounds means it only has to load that resource which means it can be compressed the
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rest of the time and having your characters there because they basically sit or stand or sit and stand with a pet
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uh it's sort of I don't want to say simplistic like it's not loading it in
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real time it essentially already has it ready to go and so it just does the
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thing right it it it's not as resource of intensive as it would be which
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reduces the cost for them to run it and means that your machine will very likely be able to interact with it without
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having to scream so I mean imagine how many people are that are still playing on lower-end spec machines trying to
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load something like that right or on people that are on an unstable internet connection or people that are not on a
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broadband internet connection there are still people that live in rural areas that are on satellite DSL it's not the
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greatest thing in the world um I mean for that matter I mean there's single player games that don't require you to
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even have an internet connection where the the amount of loading is more than some older computers can
1:00:37
handle so if you've got that on the load screen for your MMO I mean before you've
1:00:43
even gotten into the game you've got that on your character select screen you've got you're suddenly pulling all this stuff yeah it's you don't want to
1:00:50
do that where are my people at that remember when Diablo I released and you
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first loaded it up and you had to do your character selection of which one you were going to build and if your
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computer didn't have enough RAM it crashed that was a sing remember that
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not only do I remember that I also remember when Diablo II uh you know resurrected launched and they didn't
1:01:13
understand how much they were going to be asking its Antiquated servers to to tell them and it crashed you know
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there's a there's a lot of behind the-scenes stuff that is often not
1:01:25
really obvious it's sort of like you know going to an old going to like one
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of those Studio tours and you don't immediately see behind the giant building things to all the stuff going
1:01:36
on behind them it is not always a good idea plus I mean I think they they like
1:01:41
the idea of having four I mean it's the same question I remember this coming up uh when Diablo 4 released is why don't
1:01:48
you get to experience your characters around the campfire it's the same thing do you do you recall how long those high
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def assets took to download yeah it is not always fun but I think at this point
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that is go ahead Liz sorry I do want to give one actual gameplay reason why I
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think it kind of makes sense to just have a few characters selected which is that I think a lot of us have some
1:02:12
characters we play more than others I know there are some of y'all alah holics out there who are constantly playing
1:02:18
different characters I have one or two that I usually play but I think everyone probably has you've got you've got a fa
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there whether you admit it or not and it makes sense to be able to have that
1:02:31
favorite right there in front of you have the characters you're working on right now be right there in front of you
1:02:37
if you're leveling alts right now put the ones you're leveling right at the top of that list and it used to be you
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could do that by rearranging your character list per server now you do that by putting the characters you're
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actively playing right now on your warband which makes it so you can log in
1:02:52
and just see the characters you want to play and click on them they're right there that's a good point um but I think
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at this point we've discussed it so I am going to move on to the end Joe do you have anything to say at the end anymore
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technically no Liz kind of does the whole thing except I'm just G to remind people that they should send us questions okay uh if you have questions
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because she likes doing that stuff sometimes all right thank you Joe um thank you to lizz's Alpha and Omega the
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