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If you thought the purplest expansion couldn't get purpler, patch 12.0.7 of World of Warcraft proves us all wrong with yet another Void-themed event. When do all these void shenanigans end? Well, we'll keep doing them, as long as transmog is on the line -- and it is! I hope you like yours purple, and I hope you didn't blow all your Marl on the previous sets of purple Void transmog. You did? Ah, pity. There's also a surfboard mount, if you're into other sorts of serious end game activities.
Then, the cohosts muse on what's next for WoW Classic. We're not saying they're doing the whole historically accurate Siege of Orgrimmar 18 month tier, but we are wondering when we'll hear what happens next.
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[music]
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>> Hello everyone and welcome to the
0:12
Blizzard Watch podcast where we talk
0:15
about all of things Blizzard
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Entertainment and we've got a lot of
0:18
World of Warcraft news to talk about
0:20
today with a new patch rolling out. So
0:22
let me and do introduce my fabulous
0:24
co-host today. We have Joe with us every
0:27
week. How you doing Joe?
0:28
>> Hi, I am a level five
0:32
like world traveling foodie apparently
0:35
if we're going by dungeon crawler Carl
0:36
rules.
0:37
>> [laughter]
0:40
>> And you heard him laughing in the
0:42
background. We have our executive
0:44
special guest Corey.
0:46
>> Hi everybody. I don't know what level I
0:48
am but I do like food.
0:50
>> [laughter]
0:50
>> That's that's pretty good. That's we can
0:52
go with that. And joining us our special
0:55
guest Eric today.
0:58
>> Hi,
0:59
I'll take the title assistant to the
1:00
special executive guest.
1:02
>> Oh, okay. That's a good one. That's a
1:04
good one.
1:05
>> And I'll carry [laughter] things.
1:05
>> Okay, so
1:09
I'm not sure what we're recording
1:11
digitally. I don't know if any of us
1:12
have bags to carry. So you might get off
1:14
easy there.
1:15
>> I'll find work for you. Don't worry.
1:16
>> yes.
1:17
Oh.
1:19
Today is the day patch 12.0.7
1:23
has launched and man, there's just
1:26
there's just a lot of stuff in this
1:28
patch. This is this is a lot of patch
1:31
happening. Um
1:33
So first up we are recording this on
1:36
Tuesday so the patch has literally just
1:38
gone out for us but those of you
1:41
listening maybe existing in the future
1:43
and uh
1:44
have had hands-on experience but I want
1:47
to ask all of you here. Has anyone had a
1:48
chance to play around with the patch?
1:50
Good experiences, bad experiences?
1:52
>> No problems. The the servers came up
1:55
early and they weren't unstable for me.
1:58
I was able to
1:59
to do some stuff and start some quests
2:01
and go punch a big huge muscle mushroom
2:04
guy. So,
2:06
>> Uh yes, I'm not I'm not going to go.
2:09
>> I I haven't had a chance to jump into it
2:10
yet, either. So, I was working all day,
2:12
but it does look like it's come through
2:14
mostly okay.
2:16
>> Uh you know, it's a day one on a big
2:18
patch day is always there's always going
2:19
to be something and we're going to talk
2:21
about a couple somethings.
2:22
But yeah, I was surprised the servers
2:24
came up about 3 hours early, which is
2:27
not normal. Though, it's probably it's
2:30
better to overestimate how much time
2:32
they they need instead of like pull
2:34
instead of just saying, this is
2:36
definitely the amount of time we need
2:38
and then needing 3 more hours, you know?
2:40
>> Yeah.
2:41
>> And what What about you, Joe? Have you
2:43
had any time to get in?
2:44
>> I got through the main story
2:46
or at least the new story that's
2:47
available right now
2:49
before the podcast started. I wanted to
2:51
get that done and out of the way. Um and
2:53
then got to the new area, looked at it
2:56
and then promptly went back to the main
2:57
city.
2:58
Um
3:00
>> [laughter]
3:01
>> The the thing I'm interested in most in
3:03
this patch isn't available until July
3:05
7th, which we'll talk about in a minute.
3:08
Um but like it it was cool. It was you
3:12
know, a little fun story. Um I am just
3:16
exhausted with borrowed power systems.
3:20
Uh
3:21
like it's So, I wasn't really excited
3:23
about it as far as other things go. Um
3:27
but yeah, it was it's been fine so far.
3:30
No add-on problems that I can see. Um
3:33
although weirdly some video hitching in
3:35
the new zone
3:37
uh when doing the world boss despite my
3:39
frame rate never dropping below 200.
3:41
So, there's something funky going on,
3:44
which again we'll talk about. I'm sure
3:46
it's just a long list of things that
3:48
they'll likely be working to fix.
3:50
>> My uh
3:52
personal resource display was enormous.
3:55
Like I haven't had time to fully
3:56
customize and fine-tune and adjust with
3:58
all the add-ons, so I'm still using the
4:00
in-game like health bar below your
4:02
character, but I it was permanently on
4:05
and it was like
4:06
it was too big.
4:08
It was like I got to find the setting to
4:09
turn this back off because I you know,
4:12
they they tinker with some of your your
4:14
choices about how to customize stuff
4:16
every once in a while when a new patch
4:17
comes out, but um that was one thing
4:20
where I was running around and trying to
4:22
get as much in as I could before the
4:23
podcast, and I was like, "What What is
4:24
this giant green bar across my screen?"
4:26
I didn't even realize it was that at
4:28
first.
4:29
>> Oh, dear. That sounds a little
4:30
problematic. Uh yeah, I have not done
4:32
much so far, but one of the bugs that
4:34
has come up is that the cooldown manager
4:36
can't has been having trouble tracking
4:39
all buffs and debuffs since the patch.
4:41
So, there is
4:43
maybe a couple of bugs with the cooldown
4:45
manager right now, which will hopefully
4:48
hopefully they're Blizzard has commented
4:50
on it. They're working on fixes. So,
4:52
hopefully that will get addressed
4:54
quickly. Usually Blizzard is pretty good
4:56
about hot fixes even though patch day is
4:58
always going to have its issues.
5:00
Uh another issue that I do want to bring
5:02
up is that some people have found that
5:05
launching World of Warcraft triggers an
5:07
antivirus alert now that it's that it is
5:10
a type of malware since the patch.
5:13
Uh if you are having that problem, then
5:16
you should be able to whitelist the app
5:18
in your antivirus software.
5:20
Uh you but but yes, there is there is
5:23
something that some antivirus apps are
5:25
flagging as malware, which is that's
5:28
that's
5:29
annoying, but it's a solvable problem
5:32
both
5:33
on your end and probably on Blizzard's
5:35
end, too, with whatever whatever they
5:38
have done that's getting caught up here.
5:40
Um
5:41
and another thing with the Omnium Folio
5:43
quest, this one might get fixed pretty
5:45
fast. There there's a chance this is
5:47
already fixed.
5:49
Uh there is a bottleneck where you have
5:52
to everyone has to kill a certain mob
5:55
and
5:56
you know how that goes on patch day when
5:59
a billion people are trying to do the
6:00
same quest and only five people can tag
6:03
the mob. So,
6:05
hopefully Blizzard will fix that
6:07
annoyance or you can wait
6:10
a day or two until not the entire world
6:14
Warcraft is trying to do the quest at
6:16
the same time.
6:17
>> They might have already fixed it. I did
6:18
it a I did it an hour ago and at the
6:20
screenshots were, you know, there's a
6:22
hundred players standing on each other.
6:24
It looks like uh
6:26
the the events the seasonal events
6:29
>> Oh, yeah.
6:29
>> And I I did it and there was three
6:31
people around me. So, maybe they
6:33
increased some sharding or something in
6:35
a hotfix this afternoon or something.
6:37
>> be that'd be good because
6:39
what I what I have seen is like just,
6:42
you know, hundreds of people all stacked
6:43
in on top of the same thing trying to
6:45
tag it. So, you know, and and but all
6:47
things considered,
6:49
it's it's a pretty good patch roll out.
6:50
I mean, 12.0.5
6:53
rolled out and it it was rough. 1205 was
6:57
pretty rough with bugs and Blizzard
7:00
fixed them, but they weren't fixed on
7:02
patch day. It was it was that
7:05
Uh
7:06
we would have preferred a better patch.
7:07
Blizzard also would have preferred a
7:09
better patch, but uh 1207, so far so
7:12
good. That that's that's what I'm going
7:14
to stick with. Um and as Joe was
7:17
pointing out, some of the content in the
7:20
patch is not here yet. So, I'm I'm going
7:23
to throw that part to you, Joe. You're
7:25
looking forward to something that isn't
7:26
coming until July 7th.
7:28
>> Yeah, uh the thing that I'm looking
7:30
forward to is the questing with Zul'jin.
7:33
Um I really am interested in the Amani
7:37
troll history.
7:39
Uh we did a whole episode of of uh the
7:43
the Lore Watch about this.
7:45
Uh there's stuff we know, and I air
7:47
quote that real heavily,
7:49
um because it's all been told to us from
7:52
a very certain perspective. Um and now
7:55
we're learning that maybe that
7:56
perspective wasn't exactly 100% uh
7:59
objective.
8:01
Uh and so being able to do the questing
8:04
with Zul'jin,
8:05
uh learn the lore of the Amani history,
8:08
uh do stuff with his uncle or
8:10
grandfather, I can't remember if it's
8:11
his uncle or grandfather.
8:12
>> Um
8:13
>> Uncle.
8:14
>> Uncle.
8:14
Um and like learning about the
8:16
relationship with the Loas.
8:18
Um also the uh
8:21
the lore walking around Loas,
8:24
I think is also going to be yeah, cuz
8:26
it's going to all be getting tied in
8:27
together, is also something I'm really
8:29
really looking forward to.
8:31
Um but again, that doesn't happen until
8:32
July 7th,
8:34
uh which is a bit of a letdown. Um but
8:37
also, I mean, it's 3 weeks away from the
8:41
time of this recording, give or take.
8:43
>> I actually thought I actually thought
8:45
the lore walking was already here.
8:47
>> Is it?
8:47
>> also time gated?
8:48
>> I haven't checked.
8:49
>> it was, but I haven't gone looking.
8:51
I thought it was just the Zul'jin quests
8:54
that were time gated of the questing
8:56
stuff.
8:56
>> I'll have to double check cuz the lore
8:57
the lore walking is definitely on my
8:58
agenda cuz I I need to I need it.
9:01
>> Yeah, I'm very interested in going back
9:03
to that because I some of this is it's
9:05
been a while since we've seen some of
9:07
this in game. So, I I could use a
9:09
refresher. I could I could usually use a
9:12
refresher on these things. So,
9:15
uh there is another quest for uh helping
9:18
the Dragonhawk Loa, who is I had it
9:22
right in front of me a minute ago,
9:24
Jan'alai, the Loa of fire, raising a new
9:26
clutch of Dragonhawk eggs. So, I believe
9:29
that quest is also already available, no
9:33
waiting. So, I there are things in the
9:35
game today. It's not It's not one of
9:37
those patches where all of it's time
9:39
gated.
9:40
>> Mhm.
9:40
>> Um also,
9:42
some of it's time gated, but not all of
9:44
it.
9:45
Also, but also on the time gating is
9:48
turbulent time ways, which does not
9:50
start until June 30th.
9:53
Uh yeah, it's you know, it's it's the
9:56
event we're used to, but it's added
9:58
dragon
9:59
uh Dragonflight timewalking this time
10:01
around. And a new mount reward who is an
10:06
icy dragon, Vieronoth-like. I think that
10:10
is a pretty cool one.
10:12
And, you know, may It's a good It's a
10:14
super good way to level alts.
10:16
>> [snorts]
10:17
>> I'm really excited for that, too, but
10:18
I'm going to let other people
10:19
>> I have very much neglected my alts, and
10:23
I know that turbulent timewalking is
10:24
coming up, but I also have read that a
10:27
lot of other things in 12.0.7 will give
10:29
a little bit more reason for you to do
10:31
them on your alts. So, I think it I
10:34
think I might be
10:35
spending some time with some characters
10:37
that are still in Dornegal
10:40
for the next couple weeks.
10:41
>> I I think they boosted experience for a
10:43
lot of just kind of ordinary things,
10:45
like ritual sites and your weekly quests
10:49
from from Silvermoon. I think they've
10:52
boosted experience, and even I I
10:55
remember specifically they boosted
10:57
experience on those first time delve
10:58
quests, and those were already really
11:01
really big quests.
11:03
So, it may be easier to level alts this
11:06
fast for anyone who can actually find
11:08
time to level an alt. I mean, where?
11:12
Where do you get there? Uh but yeah,
11:15
yeah, it's it's going to be a good patch
11:16
for alt leveling, but some of it not
11:19
here until the end of the month.
11:20
>> Did we land on turbulent timewalking
11:22
being account-wide or not? I know it
11:24
switched and switched back.
11:25
>> No, it's not account-wide.
11:28
I don't know where the miscommunication
11:29
was, but
11:31
there was a message that suggested it
11:32
was account wide and Blizzard came back
11:35
and corrected it and it's not account
11:37
wide. So you do have to four for getting
11:40
the mount you have to get turbulent the
11:42
turbulent timeways buff on the character
11:44
four weeks in a row, five weeks in a
11:46
row?
11:47
>> Five weeks I think.
11:48
>> Uh so
11:49
but you have to do that on the same
11:51
character. And there is there is a
11:54
sneaky way to get that and keep it which
11:57
is to log on to a character, do your
12:00
four time walking dungeons, maybe five
12:02
time walking dungeons, and then log off.
12:05
If you log off the buff won't go away.
12:08
You'll still have the buff. Then log on
12:10
the next week, do just one
12:13
to maintain that buff, log off, log back
12:16
on and so you can do it you can you can
12:19
do it more efficiently than doing a ton
12:21
of time walking but you have to do it
12:23
all on the same character. There was
12:25
there was definitely some celebration
12:26
that like oh I can do this on all my
12:28
characters because the last time this
12:31
was in game I was leveling an alt and I
12:33
got to
12:35
I got to max level almost without
12:37
noticing.
12:38
That's how fast it went. Uh so so yes,
12:42
that's a little unfortunate but it's
12:44
doable. It's doable. It's not too bad.
12:46
Uh so next the midsummer fire festival
12:49
is coming up and it will include some
12:52
new content which is in this patch. I
12:55
don't know exactly what's new for this
12:57
one but in the patch trailer uh Blizzard
13:00
showed some new mounts like a a red bird
13:03
mount it appeared to be.
13:05
Uh so but that is not starting in till
13:09
the 21st. So
13:11
the and the 21st is actually extremely
13:14
soon. [laughter] So here's here's your
13:17
one week warning.
13:18
Fire festival's coming back
13:21
and if you like stuff you're probably
13:22
going to want to do it.
13:23
>> That one is the once per account per day
13:27
and you get the bad luck protection of
13:29
every day you do it the chances go up a
13:31
little bit. So, it's one of those is it
13:35
is it good that they're helping you get
13:36
it or is it bad that they're giving you
13:38
so much motivation to log in every day
13:41
and you feel like it's a bit predatory,
13:45
but I mean I want the mount so I'm going
13:46
to do it.
13:47
>> Yeah, I do think it's I do think it's
13:49
better than just having a single point
13:52
zero one percent drop rate because then
13:55
you were motivated not just to log on
13:57
and do the quest, but to log on and do
13:59
the quest on every single one of your
14:01
alts.
14:03
And you know, you could spend hours
14:04
every day just to maximize your chances
14:07
of getting that cuz it's here for a
14:08
limited amount of time and you want your
14:11
thing. Yeah, it's all comes down to the
14:13
things.
14:14
>> There's also a cool enchant which
14:17
there's not too many enchants I get
14:19
excited about, but it's like a
14:22
mid-summery fiery little bit of red and
14:25
orange and a tiny bit of blue. I think
14:26
there's a flower in it. Um, I don't
14:29
think we know where it comes from yet.
14:30
It's just like really close that it's
14:32
pretty obvious it's going to be from
14:34
there somehow. So,
14:36
don't know if it's going to be a drop,
14:37
don't know if it's going to be earned
14:39
with currency, but that could be
14:41
something else to keep your eye on.
14:42
>> Always always new things. It's it's
14:45
great and problematic all at the same
14:48
time.
14:49
Uh, so yes, lots of new things going on.
14:52
Um,
14:53
there were some features that we haven't
14:54
talked about but some features that I
14:56
only learned about now that the patch
14:57
has launched including there's a there's
15:00
a little World Cup event in Silvermoon.
15:03
Did anyone Did anyone else here know
15:05
that this was coming?
15:07
>> No.
15:08
>> Nope.
15:09
>> Uh, so it's just it's just a little
15:11
thing where you know that the kind of
15:13
academy area in Silvermoon it has that
15:16
sort of green space that's a
15:18
checkerboard.
15:19
You apparently there's a place where
15:21
you're supposed to like score goals.
15:23
There's some little mini game up there
15:25
that has rewards. There are two tabards,
15:29
an Alliance and Horde tabard, and some
15:31
Alliance and Horde decor that you can
15:33
collect by scoring
15:35
just going up there and scoring a couple
15:37
of goals. It's my understanding you can
15:38
do it in just a few minutes and it's a
15:41
style of tabard that I really like, um,
15:44
which I'm sure I'm sure those of you who
15:46
are transmog enthusiasts understand.
15:51
That it's it's like a a continuous
15:54
tabard that goes all the way down the
15:57
front of your body. So, it's like it
15:58
doesn't have a weird break where a belt
16:00
is supposed to be. So, you can make some
16:03
really neat transmogs with those. You
16:05
can do They're great and they're only
16:08
there are not that many of them in the
16:09
game. But, these are pretty cool. So,
16:12
yes, some decor items. There's like a a
16:14
World Cup trophy-looking thing and a
16:17
couple of Alliance Horde
16:20
thingamawhatsits. That's a technical
16:22
term.
16:23
>> [laughter]
16:25
>> Uh, there are also new difficulties for
16:28
ritual sites. Any of y'all been doing a
16:30
lot of ritual sites? I need to do more
16:32
ritual sites.
16:34
>> I'm mad about it. I I mean, I have to
16:36
keep doing it, but there's the one
16:38
There's the you the quest to unlock the
16:40
different challenges, right? They're
16:42
called You have to find the items around
16:45
and I can't find the dragons and I have
16:48
run through the one on the shore of
16:51
Eversong like six times and I'm just my
16:55
eye out and I'm running it on low
16:57
difficulty so I can concentrate and it's
16:58
not there. And so, I can't unlock the
17:01
last challenge and I can't get the
17:02
achievements that require you to put all
17:05
the challenges in and every time I go to
17:07
And then every time I say, "Okay, I'm
17:08
finally going to do it." It's not that
17:10
one, it's the other one in Zul'Aman. So,
17:12
I can't even do it. So, maybe I mean, if
17:15
I have to run it on higher difficulty to
17:17
get mythic crests, then maybe I'll do
17:20
it. As soon as I stop looking for it and
17:21
stop caring, I'm going to find it. So,
17:23
that's probably
17:24
>> Yeah, that's usually how these things
17:25
go. Uh but yes, there are new difficulty
17:28
levels and mythic
17:31
dawn crests, which that's pretty great.
17:33
That's useful for gear upgrades.
17:37
I I really need to finish upgrading my
17:39
crafted gear, so another way to get myth
17:44
crests without being a mythic raider.
17:47
Good stuff. Uh but I've mostly been
17:51
doing these for the transmog, and
17:53
like I have plenty of the event
17:55
currency, but I'm always running out of
17:58
voidlight marl. And they take a lot more
18:01
voidlight marl than they do event
18:03
currency. I I need so much.
18:06
>> Oh, it's the worst. They're so
18:07
expensive. I burn through so much marl
18:10
to get the transmogs I wanted.
18:13
>> Yeah, whenever whenever I log on, I do
18:15
my weeklies, and then I immediately go
18:17
to the vendor and spend every ounce of
18:21
voidlight marl I've collected doing all
18:23
the things. And
18:26
that's that's it. I still have not
18:28
gotten it all.
18:29
>> And then the achievements give you not
18:31
the mount, but the option to buy the
18:33
mount for like 8,000 voidlight marl. And
18:37
it's like, I just spent 60,000 on a
18:40
couple outfits. So, I don't have you you
18:43
you're not getting my business anymore,
18:44
cuz I don't have any left.
18:45
>> Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. I would I
18:47
would rather have the transmog than the
18:49
mount. That's I I hate to say it. I
18:51
would rather have the transmog.
18:54
>> Some things can't be said unsaid, Liz.
18:55
Come on. You You can't just go around
18:57
talking crazy like that.
18:59
>> I I can only ride one mount at a time.
19:02
So, I can wear all sorts of pieces of
19:04
transmog at a time.
19:06
>> I really wanted this other set of the
19:08
tier two, because now there's three of
19:11
them, and now I can mix and match, and
19:13
then you can make like a nice little
19:15
rainbow. It's not all the rainbow, but
19:17
there's [clears throat] there's been
19:18
other ones data mined, too. So,
19:19
eventually we'll be able to do tier two
19:22
in all the colors you want, and mix and
19:24
match.
19:24
>> Uh yeah, this is what we're doing
19:26
instead of getting armor dyes,
19:27
everybody. We're
19:30
getting 60,000 voidlight marl to buy all
19:32
of these transmogs, which are in blind
19:34
boxes, and I
19:36
Ah, yeah, it's like
19:39
>> were my slot, and it wasn't like, "Come
19:41
on, mage head. Come on, mage. I just
19:43
need the mage head." Evoker wrist.
19:46
>> [laughter]
19:49
>> And don't worry, when we do when we do
19:50
get when we do get uh armor dyes, the
19:52
monkey paw will curl, and it will
19:54
require a a very specific currency in
19:57
large amounts to dye a single piece.
19:58
Don't worry, Liz, it'll happen.
20:01
>> Yeah, I mean, I I haven't started
20:03
weeping in front of my computer yet
20:06
about this transmog system, but it's not
20:09
out of the realm of possibility. It's
20:11
not at all.
20:15
We can we can live in hope, but uh
20:18
more missed on crests coming from ritual
20:20
sites, and also if I do more ritual
20:22
sites, I'll get more voidlight marl,
20:24
which I can feed into blind boxes to get
20:27
transmog that maybe I can't even use
20:29
because it's a blind box. Okay, it's
20:32
fine. It's fine.
20:33
>> What you're saying is it's a vicious
20:34
cycle that keeps you playing World of
20:35
Warcraft.
20:37
>> Uh it is, except I I get bored of
20:39
farming for voidlight marl, and
20:42
then I just still don't have my
20:43
transmog, and I'm very sad. That's
20:48
Yeah. Yeah. Uh so, yes, ritual sites,
20:52
and we got to keep doing them.
20:55
That's all I That's all I got.
20:57
>> Do you think that the next time content
20:59
like this ritual site is going to be
21:01
introduced to the game that they're
21:02
going to start with it having this many
21:03
levels of difficulty available, or is it
21:06
going to be Do they Are they happy with
21:08
the the later progression of like okay
21:10
now that it's been out for a while and
21:12
it's kind of in a dead spot between
21:13
content here you go.
21:14
>> That's it that's funny you should ask
21:17
Corey because there is a new I knew
21:19
event that is out in 12
21:22
12.0.7
21:24
that is the void showdown.
21:27
Adding to our list of void themed events
21:31
and I believe it just has two
21:32
difficulties.
21:34
>> Well then why is it only have two
21:35
difficulties it should have four.
21:37
>> You have to ask Blizzard.
21:40
Yeah,
21:42
I mean are you going to delves and you
21:43
have 11 tiers of difficulty. It's it's
21:46
just and yeah void showdowns are I'm not
21:51
really enthusiastic about them because
21:53
it seems this is an event that could
21:55
have been an email.
21:57
I
21:59
you you go to a place and you kill a
22:01
bunch of void things and then you get
22:03
rewards. You can do it in a normal mode
22:05
or heroic mode.
22:06
>> My problem with it still remains the
22:08
timing and it just it it it's it's goes
22:11
back to the other thing too like
22:13
the main story line with
22:16
like us going to the different areas and
22:18
you know doing the the different
22:20
continent stuff and these other worlds
22:23
like the timing of it all just feels
22:25
weird like the ritual sites feel weird
22:28
like to me they would have been and
22:31
again I think I've said this and I
22:33
apologize
22:34
they just they still continue to feel
22:37
like a pre-expansion event.
22:40
Right like with the transmog with the
22:42
stuff that you get from it with the
22:44
going to the different areas and
22:45
repelling the assaults or rituals and
22:47
all that stuff it all feels not like a
22:50
during the expansion content it feels
22:54
like a oh this expansion's coming by the
22:56
way this is the Vanguard for the void
22:58
assault. So like the timing the timing
23:01
of it and its placement even if with
23:03
some of the cool trans mog, makes me not
23:05
want to engage with it. So.
23:07
>> Mhm. I I actually like the ritual sites
23:10
because it feels it feels different from
23:12
other forms of content. It feels like
23:14
something unique and it has, you know,
23:17
kind of the unique challenges you're
23:18
unlocking. It does get samey after a
23:20
while, but
23:22
uh
23:22
it just feels different. And these other
23:24
events just feel like, "Okay, this is
23:26
the same thing. We're going to a place.
23:27
We're killing things. We're leaving the
23:29
place. We're coming back. We're killing
23:30
things."
23:31
Uh
23:32
Does anyone have other opinions about
23:35
the new
23:36
void void showdowns? I I cannot keep
23:40
them straight. That's how many void
23:41
events we have. The
23:43
>> It feels like we're getting a lot of
23:46
asset recycling as part of the strategy
23:49
of mhm much much content and
23:53
content often and get it out to make
23:55
sure there's always so much to do that
23:57
we're so overwhelmed that we say,
23:59
"I don't know what I'm going to do, but
24:00
I'm not going to unsubscribe." Because I
24:03
mean, [laughter]
24:04
we we've had a lot of we're going to
24:06
Siren's Isle and it's like, "Wasn't that
24:08
an unused thing from It's like, "Yeah,
24:10
yeah, but now we're going and we're
24:11
tying the story in it." It's like, "That
24:13
was just an extra thing that we could do
24:15
for a whole new patch because it was
24:17
mostly, you know, there and it wasn't
24:19
built from scratch." Like these
24:21
two new worlds we're going to are worlds
24:25
from the Legion invasions, right? So,
24:28
>> Yeah.
24:28
>> Um it's like a new thing to do in a new
24:32
tier and a new difficulty, but it it
24:35
seems like a like the the ritual sites
24:38
are instances where you're just in the
24:42
open world, but you're in your own
24:43
instance of it. So, it's it's not a new
24:46
delve. It's a delve that's just, you
24:49
know, draw a box around the beach on
24:52
Eversong and that's it. And they just
24:54
have to use that map and put some new
24:57
mobs in it and then that's a whole new
24:59
thing. And that's much easier than
25:01
making, you know, a
25:03
14th delve or however many we have. So,
25:05
I get a little bit of that uh
25:08
pessimism, I guess you could say. Um
25:10
doesn't mean I'm not doing them and
25:11
enjoying them, but
25:13
>> Um so, of course,
25:15
from the new void showdowns, there are
25:17
also new transmogs to collect, which
25:20
there's kind of a set that's voidy and a
25:22
set that's light. There's you got your
25:25
purples and you got your bright yellows
25:27
and cults.
25:28
So, more things to collect. I'm so
25:32
excited to have to spend my more void
25:35
light moral on cosmetics.
25:38
>> And there's like a void surfboard. So,
25:41
got to get that.
25:42
>> I know I don't need another mount, but I
25:44
think I may need a void sur- surfboard.
25:46
>> Is it um
25:47
is it possible
25:49
that I know this is heresy almost that
25:51
there's too much void in the void-themed
25:53
expansion? Like, have we hit diminishing
25:56
returns on void cosmetics and void
25:59
events and void ABCD?
26:02
>> I definitely think on void events.
26:05
Eric, I feel like you're most up on this
26:07
one.
26:08
What are our What is the range of void
26:10
events that we currently have available
26:13
to us?
26:14
>> There's the incursions and the
26:17
uh strikes,
26:19
which together are the assaults. So, the
26:21
void assaults go from
26:23
Zul'Aman to Ever song and they ping-pong
26:26
back and forth and those consist of
26:27
those two. The ritual sites
26:31
are voidy, but they don't have a void X
26:33
title, right? Um
26:35
>> Yeah.
26:36
>> As
26:36
As I mentioned to you before, the void
26:39
showdowns I thought was your funny way
26:41
of saying, "Oh, another void thing. I'm
26:43
going to call it something."
26:44
We're really getting another one.
26:46
There's void What do we got? Incursions,
26:48
assaults, uh
26:49
I'm missing one I can't even remember. I
26:52
think I like to I I think I referred to
26:54
in an article as when you're talking
26:56
about just all of them, it's a void
26:58
donnybrook.
26:59
>> [laughter]
26:59
>> But you can you can pick your own
27:01
synonym for, you know, a conflict. You
27:05
They're all void squabbles. They're all
27:07
void argle-bargles. They're all void
27:10
fracases.
27:11
>> And and here we are. We're we're stuck
27:14
in this. Um at least I will say the void
27:16
showdowns feel a little to to speak to
27:19
your point, Joe, about them feeling like
27:21
early expansion events. These are a tiny
27:24
bit leading into, okay, we're going out
27:26
to other worlds and fighting off the
27:29
void, fighting off the remnants of this.
27:32
But it does feel like this is kind of
27:34
this is kind of an aside. We we've been
27:36
doing this. Maybe we should have done
27:38
this earlier.
27:40
Uh but but here we are.
27:41
>> Here we are.
27:42
>> It cuz it also feels weird in the story
27:44
of
27:46
And and I've mentioned this on Lore
27:47
Watch cuz we got asked this by one of
27:48
our our wonderful patrons and
27:50
subscribers at at one. And it's like it
27:52
it just feels odd because we should be
27:55
at this point in the story, we should be
27:56
looking to do something else very
27:58
specific. I'm not I don't want to I know
28:00
that it's been a little while,
28:01
>> [laughter]
28:01
>> but I'm trying really hard not to
28:02
spoiler it. But this is completely
28:06
opposite and doesn't really feel into
28:09
that.
28:10
And so it feels less cohesive with the
28:13
story.
28:14
And I I, being a huge, you know, lore
28:20
nerd when it comes to this game, it's
28:22
one of the things that I look forward to
28:23
is, you know, finding the pieces of the
28:26
puzzle that sort of fit together and how
28:27
the story moves along.
28:29
And I feel like even last expansion
28:33
everything sort of followed the same
28:35
trajectory. Even people that thought
28:36
that like going to the Undermire
28:40
Undermine was not
28:42
um you know, wasn't part of it, but it
28:44
was. It fit in. It was a progression. it
28:46
made sense.
28:47
And then we sideways scooted off to
28:49
K'aresh. And I had a problem with that
28:52
because the sideways scooted off to
28:53
K'aresh. Um and then here we're kind of
28:56
doing the same thing. We're going to
28:56
other worlds. We Well, we did that. We
28:58
literally did that last expansion. Why
29:00
are we doing it again? What What is the
29:02
purpose of it? How does this tie back?
29:03
Oh, we're fighting We're going after
29:05
these remnants of these ethereals. And
29:06
it's like, "Okay, but why?"
29:08
>> There are other worlds than these,
29:09
Rowland.
29:10
>> Yeah, very much so, right? Like So, it's
29:13
it's it's weird for me. Like it's it's
29:15
this constant juggling of why How does
29:18
this make sense and what's my compelling
29:19
reason to do it? And it can't just be
29:21
loot cuz loot is not my sole motive.
29:23
>> And the other thing about these
29:25
showdowns is this really feels like the
29:28
Legion assaults from Legion, right?
29:32
>> very much so.
29:32
>> It's even It's even reusing the same
29:35
areas as some of those assaults. And it
29:38
just feels I'm just I'm not I'm not
29:41
enthusiastic, but also there's transmog
29:43
and a void surfboard. So, I have I'm
29:46
like I'm morally required I have a moral
29:49
imperative to do them.
29:51
I'm just I'm not real excited about it.
29:53
>> And I I don't want to make sure that
29:55
like it's known I'm not discounting the
29:56
amount of work put into it or the
29:57
effort. It's just It's just not content
30:00
that sings to me.
30:01
>> Yeah, it It feels a little samey and
30:03
it's hard to get excited about things
30:05
that it's And of course,
30:07
we have been playing World of Warcraft
30:09
for a a number of years.
30:12
I'm just going to leave it at that. So,
30:16
it's it's it's easy to to make content
30:18
that we can go and say, "Oh, I already
30:19
did that 10 years ago." And
30:23
you know, there may be
30:25
There could be people out here who are
30:26
excited about that, who did not play
30:28
during Legion and did not burn out on
30:30
doing these things once already.
30:32
But yeah, it As you say, Joe, it does
30:34
not sing to me.
30:36
It exists and that's all I got.
30:38
>> That's okay. I've got Marvel Rivals and
30:40
I've got a a Jeff and I've very cute
30:42
costume.
30:43
So, I'm okay for now.
30:45
>> I I I knew we were going to come back to
30:47
it somewhere. I I suspected. Um so,
30:50
another thing in the new patch is the
30:52
Sporfall raid, which is a single boss
30:55
raid. And if you want to know how
30:56
difficult this raid will be after the
30:58
nightmare that has been Lihuvim, which
31:01
is a very fun fight, but a very very
31:04
challenging one.
31:05
Team Liquid got the world first on
31:08
Mythic Sporfall within 15 minutes of the
31:12
servers coming back up. is with the
31:14
servers coming back up 3 hours early
31:16
when no one knew that the [laughter]
31:17
servers were coming back up.
31:19
>> [gasps]
31:19
>> So, I mean, the Liquid is they're
31:22
they're the best of the best, but also
31:25
it it took them 15 minutes to kill this
31:27
boss.
31:29
But, I will say one very good thing
31:31
about this is that as as usual, there's
31:35
a cool mount at the end of this raid.
31:37
And all you have to do to get it is kill
31:40
the boss four times cuz it drops an item
31:42
every time, and you get the item when
31:44
you kill it, and then you can just get
31:46
the mount instead of the mount being
31:48
like a 0.01%
31:50
drop chance that only drops in Mythic
31:52
difficulty.
31:53
That's
31:55
I'm going to call that a win. I'm I'm
31:58
going to take what I can get.
31:59
>> I'd like to see that going forward just
32:01
kind of be the norm at least for
32:03
one boss in the raid. Like, you don't
32:05
even have to make it the most Like, you
32:06
can still do the Mythic only mount. 100%
32:09
Give it to the Mythic people something
32:10
to strive for and give everyone else
32:12
that like
32:13
maybe this is the week that my 0.1%
32:15
lottery is up. But at the same time,
32:18
give us that kind of like work towards
32:21
incremental mount from every raid
32:23
because there's always cool things there
32:25
that make great mounts. We just want to
32:26
ride them.
32:28
>> And this mount is cool. It's cool color.
32:29
It's purple and it's a very cool like
32:32
light blue.
32:34
And it's Uh, I will be going back the
32:36
next 3 weeks to get the you get like a
32:39
food that you get and once you have four
32:41
foods you can like coax it to be your
32:43
mount, so.
32:45
>> So,
32:46
this is an improvement. I'm I'm going to
32:48
mark this up in the win category. Not
32:51
everything's in the win category. I
32:52
think this is a clear winner for us.
32:55
Uh, another thing that has launched with
32:56
the patch this week is we have a new
32:58
Twitch drop for World of Warcraft, which
33:01
awards you with another murloc plushy.
33:05
And I've been complaining several times
33:07
in this podcast about content feeling
33:09
samey and this is
33:11
I've got to say, we've had a lot of
33:13
murloc plushies as Twitch drop rewards.
33:17
And I I can't complain, I'm afraid. I
33:19
just can't [laughter] because
33:22
it's it's a cute plush murloc and I'm
33:24
going to put it in my house and that's
33:26
just until I can make like an entire
33:28
ball pit of plush murlocs in various
33:30
colors. Uh, this one is the cotton candy
33:35
murloc and it is bright pink and blue.
33:39
So, have has anyone here already
33:41
designed the room in which they are
33:43
going to place this murloc?
33:45
>> It just becomes
33:46
like the part of your your big army
33:49
coming at your dark portal, right? Like
33:51
you just
33:51
>> [laughter]
33:53
>> I actually do have a spot outside my
33:57
house staring at a waterfall that has
34:00
like a it's just like a I've made a
34:02
little sort of picnic area and I put all
34:04
of my plush murlocs there. So, this
34:06
one's going to be added to that
34:07
collection.
34:08
>> I've got uh,
34:09
two rooms in my house that are owned by
34:12
the two little gamers in my house, my
34:14
real house, and uh,
34:16
they they have their own void squabbles
34:19
over who gets to have which stuffies in
34:22
their rooms. So,
34:23
uh, yeah, this will be this this is
34:25
going to be a popular one. This is going
34:26
to be a tough one to uh,
34:28
to divide up. We'll have to We'll We'll
34:30
to share. We'll have to alternate weeks.
34:31
>> Yeah, you can get more of them. Once
34:33
you've gotten one of them, you can
34:35
purchase additional plushies from a
34:37
vendor. There's one in Silvermoon, one
34:40
in Stormwind, one in Orgrimmar. So, you
34:42
could you could just get a bunch of them
34:45
sensibly. It's possible. You could
34:47
bankrupt yourself, also. So, it's which
34:49
which way do you want to go?
34:51
Uh but yes, is there is there anything
34:54
in patch 12.0.7 that anyone wants to
34:56
talk about because I know we haven't
34:58
done the full features list. We've
34:59
talked about this a bunch, but uh
35:02
that's kind of in my opinion, that's
35:04
kind of the new stuff and the
35:05
highlights.
35:06
>> Um the thing that I did because I was
35:08
most excited about was the Omnium, the
35:11
new the new borrowed power thing just
35:13
because it's Wrath and Umbrick and yeah,
35:17
getting together for more hijinks
35:19
together and everybody wants that. You
35:22
when you have two characters and their
35:24
interaction with each other is what is
35:27
driving everything
35:29
and what's
35:30
it's the best. Like, Star Wars is great
35:32
and C-3PO and R2-D2 are great, but like
35:34
their interaction with each other makes
35:36
it one of my favorite movies and I just
35:41
couldn't wait any more.
35:43
Um but there was also a ton of lore
35:44
stuff in there. I figured it would be
35:46
just kind of them squabbling over um you
35:49
know, some you know, tech or magic or
35:51
something and then eventually they would
35:53
be like, "Here's your borrowed power.
35:54
Come back next week to get some more."
35:56
Um
35:57
but it was it was definitely worth
35:58
paying attention the whole time because
36:00
it um it has it has some good story bits
36:03
in it that go way back.
36:06
Um
36:07
and it was and it was cool.
36:09
>> I'm looking forward to the quests more
36:10
than I'm looking forward to another
36:12
borrowed power system, but here we are.
36:14
This is This is what we get. We're going
36:16
to roll with it.
36:17
>> But at least it's an expansion-wide
36:18
borrowed power system. Like, it you're
36:20
going to
36:20
>> And that is true. If it was just for
36:22
12.0.7, that would be
36:25
>> [sighs]
36:25
>> It looks good.
36:26
>> be they'd be like that. They'd be mhm.
36:29
And but yes, there we are. Um
36:33
we have had not a little not news
36:37
exactly about WoW Classic, but there are
36:39
some rumors swirling around about a
36:42
Classic Plus being introduced, which
36:45
I mean may that may sound silly because
36:47
those rumors have been going around
36:49
since Classic was launched and then they
36:51
did Season of Discovery, which added
36:54
kind of all sorts of interesting new
36:55
content and then they haven't done
36:57
anything like that since. Which has been
37:00
a little disappointing. Um
37:03
you but there are rumors coming back
37:05
that there's genuinely some kind of
37:07
Classic Plus coming. And we've also seen
37:09
Blizzard in the past few months
37:12
working to shut down a couple more
37:14
private servers that that have been
37:18
long-time running. And so I do kind of
37:22
wonder, is this in preparation for
37:23
something? Are they going to be doing
37:25
their own thing? What does anyone here
37:28
think about the Classic Plus thing? And
37:30
do you feel like you need Classic Plus
37:33
in your life? Is there some amazing
37:35
Classic Plus story that you would like
37:37
to experience?
37:38
>> I feel like it's a possibility that
37:40
we'll hear about it at BlizzCon based on
37:44
the fact that they've promised the
37:45
biggest BlizzCon ever. And if
37:48
if you get the biggest BlizzCon ever and
37:50
the timing of the announcement for World
37:53
of Warcraft would be like behold 12.1.7
37:57
in all its glory. Like that's not going
38:00
to be the biggest BlizzCon ever. It's
38:01
like that's where your timing is for the
38:02
reveal cycle.
38:03
>> Yeah.
38:04
>> So, I think that they could announce
38:07
what's coming after the World Soul Saga
38:08
if they want to get way ahead of
38:10
themselves again.
38:11
>> Yeah.
38:11
>> And we've talked a lot on Lorewatch
38:13
about what we would want to see like the
38:15
story go next. So, I think it's a
38:16
possibility that they would just go
38:19
ahead and say, "We're only going to do
38:20
BlizzCon like every 5 years and every
38:22
five years we're going to announce the
38:23
next bunch of stuff, but I think that
38:27
with the end of the What was it? The
38:29
state of Azeroth when they interrupted
38:32
Ali in that little tongue-in-cheek like,
38:34
"Not yet." Like, that that had Everybody
38:37
thought that that was Classic Plus and
38:38
then it wasn't, but something is coming
38:41
and it seems like I I wouldn't I
38:45
wouldn't be surprised as would, you
38:47
know, no one who's talking about this
38:49
right now.
38:50
>> Uh yeah, so
38:51
>> I can't I've never been able to get
38:53
excited for Classic. That's the the
38:55
problem. Like, I played during Classic.
38:58
I played at the end of Classic and then
39:00
I played in Burning Crusade. Like, I've
39:01
been there. I've done that. I've never
39:03
had the desire to go back and play it
39:04
the way it was. So,
39:06
I don't get me wrong. It's cool that
39:08
they want to do it, but at the same
39:10
time, sure. Okay. What else you got?
39:12
>> I I did go back and played a lot of
39:16
Classic and only up to like level 30 on
39:19
a whole bunch of different classes and
39:21
it was just for the feel. It was just
39:24
when I felt so overwhelmed in retail
39:26
with all the things to do and all of the
39:29
options and everything that I would just
39:31
log out and log into a character that
39:33
was just like in the middle of Duskwood
39:36
and I would say, "Okay.
39:38
I I'm going to spend the next hour
39:40
completing one quest because one out of
39:44
every 19 plague bats drops their wing
39:47
bit."
39:48
And
39:48
>> [laughter]
39:49
>> what I what I could I could accomplish
39:50
16 things in retail, but I'd rather play
39:54
Classic and accomplish one thing that's
39:58
going to give me, you know, because I'm
40:00
going to get a weapon and I haven't
40:01
upgraded my weapon in three zones. Um
40:05
just that feel I missed. Like, that it
40:06
was a it was a lot of nostalgia cuz I
40:08
was there, too, but I didn't get the
40:11
full experience cuz I think I only hit
40:13
like level 52 before Burning Crusade
40:16
launched. Um so, if there was a classic
40:19
plus, I would really want that feel to
40:22
be there. I would want to feel more like
40:24
classic and less like what we've had
40:26
lately in retail.
40:28
>> I just have to wonder how like I guess
40:30
you can just design with that mentality
40:31
in mind, but at a certain point like
40:33
we've we've seen the the little bits of
40:36
quality of life tuning gets snuck into
40:38
classic.
40:40
So
40:40
>> Yeah.
40:41
>> is there a point where classic stops
40:42
looking like classic again and then
40:44
they're like, oh well, I like classic
40:45
classic and not new classic.
40:48
>> [laughter]
40:49
[sighs]
40:50
>> Maybe.
40:51
Maybe.
40:52
Uh so, it's interesting. I'm curious to
40:55
see where it goes. The other thing is we
40:56
don't have anything else really
40:58
announced for classic right now. There's
41:00
there's nothing on the horizon.
41:01
Obviously, uh classic classic, the
41:04
original classic is
41:07
staying staying as it is. And then we
41:10
have the anniversary realms which are
41:11
into the Burning Crusade. And then we
41:13
have the progression realms which just
41:15
released the last Mists of Pandaria
41:17
patch and there's nothing on the agenda.
41:19
So
41:20
>> Do we expect a classic Warlords of
41:23
Draenor? Are we overdue if that's the
41:25
next thing or is that
41:27
>> I I think I think we're almost certainly
41:29
going to see a Warlords of Draenor. I
41:31
mean
41:32
if they were going to stop, I think they
41:34
would have stopped before Cataclysm. But
41:36
since they did Cataclysm, we're going to
41:37
see everything. That's my opinion. It's
41:40
Neither of those are my favorite
41:41
expansion, but uh
41:44
that's what we got. We don't We don't
41:45
know what's coming next for classic. So,
41:46
it would make sense for Blizzard to come
41:48
out and do just a big a big something.
41:51
>> It would be a big something. Like it
41:53
would be
41:54
this massive cuz yeah, going from you
41:57
think you do but you don't to hey, guess
41:59
what guys
42:00
classic plus.
42:01
>> Yeah, we're making classic servers with
42:03
brand new content.
42:05
>> I do wonder if this is going to be one
42:06
of those sideways announcements where no
42:08
one actually predicted it and it's
42:10
something kind of like everything but
42:12
different. Like if the big announcement
42:15
is that, you know, if you want to play
42:17
Cataclysm Classic right now, you kind of
42:19
can't because they've already moved past
42:21
it. So, they're going to have you can
42:22
play on whatever realm you want. Like
42:24
like the
42:25
um Chromie Time, but if you want to play
42:27
where Cataclysm is the end, you can. And
42:29
if you want to play Wrath Classic, you
42:32
can.
42:32
And they'll just all be different realms
42:34
or or something.
42:36
Um so, I could also see it be something
42:38
that everybody was like, we wanted
42:40
Classic Plus and we got uh Classic Plus
42:43
at home.
42:45
>> Uh yeah, and the thing is
42:47
if this is a BlizzCon announcement,
42:49
that's kind of late.
42:51
That's kind of That's going to be a long
42:53
time in Mists of Pandaria for the Siege
42:56
of Orgrimmar patch, which would mirror
42:58
reality. Still not as long as reality,
43:01
but it would be That's a long a long
43:04
period between new content releases for
43:07
the Classic progression realms. So, I I
43:09
don't know.
43:11
The timing for BlizzCon this year is so
43:13
strange. And uh
43:15
>> Maybe that's part of the reason why they
43:16
bumped it up so much it was because they
43:17
just couldn't uh
43:20
wait long enough to
43:21
>> great for it not to feel weird. I think
43:23
it'd have to be in August or July, and
43:25
it's not in August or July.
43:29
Uh so, yes, it's still We live in a
43:32
world of potential surprises. And uh
43:34
we're going to see what happens come
43:36
soon. Uh
43:37
but okay, there's only so much we can
43:39
talk about maybe something happening in
43:42
Classic. Uh
43:44
the next thing is Diablo.
43:47
N- don't have anything huge on Diablo
43:49
this week. Diablo Immortal is rolling
43:51
out its Warlock, uh which will happen on
43:55
June 17th. That'll be the third variant
43:58
of the Warlock class to hit the game.
44:01
So, there is that.
44:03
And I I continue the hill I will die on
44:05
is that Diablo Immortal is in fact a
44:07
very good game. You just have to ignore
44:09
every bit of monetization and it's it's
44:12
actually a very good game. Just that one
44:15
the tiny
44:16
tiny thing.
44:18
>> [laughter and gasps]
44:18
>> But Diablo 4 has a dev live stream
44:21
coming on June 23rd because that is in
44:24
the future. We will talk about it in the
44:26
future but uh
44:28
one thing is it has it has some really
44:30
cool looking armor in the header art for
44:33
the announcement and I'm like I was kind
44:35
of thinking about sitting the next
44:37
season out but
44:40
I really need this armor.
44:42
>> [laughter]
44:43
[gasps]
44:43
>> Uh [sighs] so I'm I'm doomed. That's
44:46
June 23rd. There will also be a Twitch
44:48
drop if you watch the stream that same
44:50
day. Not it does not sound like you need
44:52
to watch it live. You just have to watch
44:54
it the same day. It is a horrifying
44:57
sword. It's a horrifying sword that's
44:59
maybe made of flesh and has teeth and
45:01
that's that's Diablo for you. You.
45:05
I So So that that kind of hits our news.
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48:01
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48:04
Joe, could you perhaps read a question
48:06
for us?
48:07
>> Sure.
48:08
This one comes from Azure Looney.
48:11
Could we get new professions in the
48:14
future like architect, landscape
48:16
designer, interior designer for the new
48:17
housing system? I could see it meshing
48:19
with the crafting order system in
48:20
theory. Here's my stuff, here's some
48:22
money. Then the crafter opens a plot
48:25
instance, does the work and invites the
48:27
client for review and edits. Once
48:30
everyone agrees it's done, it is saved
48:31
and the client unpacks it on their
48:33
actual plot. The housing copy-paste
48:35
feature is being worked on, so I think
48:37
this could be a possibility. Let love to
48:40
hear your all's thought on thoughts on
48:42
it. Thanks as all.
48:44
Maybe.
48:45
So, the interesting thing is I don't
48:47
think it's going to be I don't think
48:49
that'll ever be implemented in the game.
48:51
And and the reason I say that is like an
48:53
interior designer thing.
48:55
While it would be really, really cool, a
48:59
lot of that stuff is tied into friends
49:02
list, real ID, and guild.
49:06
And so, if it was people within your
49:08
guild, great. But what if you're a solo
49:11
player? Or what if you're in a really
49:12
small guild and the rest of the guild
49:13
doesn't engage in What if you are a
49:15
player that doesn't have a lot of
49:17
friends?
49:18
So, the housing system right now is sort
49:20
of it's got like this really clear like
49:24
distinction between here are the things
49:26
that you can put up on the auction house
49:28
and then here's the things you can
49:29
experience with friends that actually
49:31
involve your plot. That said, I think
49:34
this is a opportunity for a revival of a
49:38
vanilla WoW type thing where I think an
49:41
entire community has already sprung up
49:44
around player housing. There are
49:46
Discords devoted to it. There are
49:48
websites devoted to it where where share
49:50
their builds. There are content creation
49:53
uh stuff on like all the various
49:55
platforms dedicated entirely to
49:58
uh housing builds, housing decor, and
50:00
things like that. Um so, what you're
50:02
going to likely see is you're going to
50:03
likely see people that are doing this
50:06
outside of the game and then
50:08
maybe having an in-game impact. Like,
50:11
I'll send your character whatever gold I
50:13
can or or whatever. Or you might see
50:16
like a like for like trade where people
50:18
create the stuff and then throw it out
50:21
there for people to either copy and
50:23
paste into their worlds.
50:25
Um or people take requests and craft
50:29
very custom things and then give it to
50:31
that person that that copy-paste code uh
50:34
and then they put it into their housing
50:36
plot. Um you see this with Minecraft
50:38
actually a lot, too, where uh things
50:40
like Lightmatica, which is an add-on
50:43
that lets you put blueprints uh into the
50:45
game. You can load from third-party
50:48
websites to load the blueprint so that
50:50
you can follow the blueprint in your
50:51
game and build it. I could see the copy
50:55
and paste feature being more used for
50:56
that than it would be something where
51:00
uh a new crafting possession profession
51:02
is stood up specifically for player
51:05
housing. It would be really, really
51:07
cool. Um but I don't know that it will
51:10
be officially hap- that it would
51:11
officially happen.
51:13
Um I can also see a world in where
51:15
you're allowed to give a friend or
51:17
guildy access to your home
51:20
or your plot so that they can make
51:21
edits. So, like, we have people in our
51:23
guild as an example that are really into
51:26
player housing and really like to build
51:28
and do weird things and like use stuff
51:30
for stuff that it's not intended for.
51:32
Um and then you have others that like
51:34
the idea of it, but don't have the um I
51:37
don't want to say the the capacity for
51:39
it, but like
51:41
um there's
51:42
>> Patience.
51:42
>> Patience is one thing, but some people
51:44
also can't There's a subset of people
51:46
that can't actually picture things in
51:48
their head, whether it's from trauma or
51:51
uh there is actual like genetic like
51:53
things where they just can't see things
51:54
in their head. Um and we have people
51:57
like that that we play with. And if they
52:00
fall into that category, they have a
52:01
hard time with systems like this because
52:03
they can't visualize it. They can try to
52:04
build it, but it becomes longer and more
52:07
frustrating. But if they could say, "I
52:09
want something to be this."
52:12
to somebody else
52:13
and say, "Can you make it look like, you
52:15
know, a pub for me?" Or make it look
52:18
like a trophy room or, you know, make it
52:20
look like uh
52:22
uh Jelani's or or I I can't remember her
52:25
name, uh trash pile.
52:27
Um
52:27
but like it's like I could see that
52:30
being a thing, but I don't know that it
52:31
would be an official profession. What do
52:33
you guys think?
52:34
>> Yeah, the the copy-paste makes it too
52:36
easy to do outside of game for it to be
52:38
an official thing. But I could see new
52:41
professions like lumberjack or something
52:43
like that show up. Maybe as a tertiary
52:46
profession where you get
52:49
an easier way to chop wood rather than
52:51
the system they have now.
52:52
>> Yeah, I could see I also really like the
52:55
idea of having like maybe a separate
52:57
track where you have to pick whether
52:59
you're going to get talents into
53:02
interior design or landscaping. But then
53:05
it you run into are you going to
53:07
increase your, you know, decor budget on
53:10
one of them or be able to do more? And
53:13
everybody just wants all of it. So
53:16
um so it's you don't want to
53:19
put it put something in where it seems
53:22
like you're getting empowered, but
53:23
you're actually getting limited in two
53:24
areas instead of empowered in one.
53:26
Um and yeah, I agree that the the the
53:30
idea behind it that we could go into
53:31
each other's houses and do stuff seems
53:33
like a great idea that you would have a
53:36
million reasons for saying, "Come on
53:38
over and we can decorate something
53:40
together or you could do it for me, or
53:44
anything like that. Um so, you could
53:46
maybe offer your services as an interior
53:48
decorator, but I don't know that it's
53:50
going to be added to the profession
53:52
list.
53:53
>> I feel like a big part of the problem
53:55
here is
53:58
this would some of this like you could I
54:00
like the idea of an architect, but you
54:04
know, some of this is going to
54:05
cannibalize other professions. Right
54:06
now, every crafting profession has some
54:09
decor they can make and inscription
54:11
especially has a ton of decor they can
54:12
make. So,
54:14
if you're like if you take it as
54:18
an I can make things for your house
54:20
profession, which I think Blizzard could
54:22
have done something like that if they
54:23
launched it at the beginning of
54:24
midnight, then but at this point it's
54:27
just going to cannibalize what other
54:29
professions can do and that's not I kind
54:30
of feel good for anybody. Um
54:33
Yeah, what I like about the idea of an
54:35
architect is what if an architect could
54:38
build like build housing designs? And
54:41
I'm I'm not talking about decor, but
54:44
like what if they could create
54:46
unique sort of housing styles that you
54:49
could use for like the exterior of your
54:51
house or like they could make like a
54:53
type of wall or something that's unique
54:55
from what else you can see because
54:56
that's a place where customization is
54:59
actually a bit limited. There are only a
55:00
few house types. There are only a few
55:03
types of walls and floors and things
55:05
like that that could I could conceivably
55:08
see that as something like a maybe a new
55:12
type of window that you can just apply
55:14
to the outside of your house. Things
55:16
like that. But
55:18
I I think if they were going to do it,
55:20
they would have done it already. I love
55:21
the idea. I don't think it's very
55:22
practical though.
55:23
>> Any parting thoughts on that cuz I I
55:25
think that I think that well covers it.
55:27
>> I I would love to have a gardening
55:29
profession. I think that would be so
55:30
much fun. I just And I I don't think you
55:33
can do it. I don't think you can do it.
55:35
Not now. You'd have to tear too much
55:37
stuff up.
55:38
You but but anyway, I think we're kind
55:40
of a time, Joe. Are we
55:43
Do we have time for another question or
55:45
>> I think that's going to do it for us,
55:47
friends, unless uh
55:49
unless there's anything else you you
55:50
guys personally want to talk about. We
55:52
are at time. Ooh, I do have a good joke
55:53
to end.
55:54
>> Okay.
55:55
>> What do you call a werewolf YouTuber?
55:57
>> I don't know.
55:58
>> What do you call a werewolf YouTuber?
56:00
A like and subscribe.
56:03
>> [laughter]
56:05
>> I I knew where that was going and I
56:07
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56:09
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56:10
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