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hey everybody uh welcome to the Blizzard watch podcast I am Matt I'm hosting uh with me are two of the many amazing
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people who might be here at any given time unfortunately Corey isn't uh and neither is Phil I believe if Phil is
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here he's been hiding really effectively um but we do still have Liz and Joe who are really the backbone of the site and
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of this podcast you are lucky I was able to pull myself away from Jeff the land shark yeah I am lucky yeah again that's
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fair imagine how cool it would be if you just did this as Jeff the
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lanchar I I think people get get tired of it real quick yeah that's like the time I tried to do an entire podcast as
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the uh parents voices from the peanuts cartoons people did not enjoy that but anyway we have lots of stuff to do um
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Liz do we have any patreon things to talk about before we get going uh yes I just want to remind you all that
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up to $4,000 a month which keeps the site stable and happy uh and we're a little under that right now I do want to
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give a big thank you to a couple of people who joined us this week uh Zane
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just uh joined at okay I don't this is a
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Australian 850 I'm not sure where that comes down to in our I think that's like
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the $5 level maybe yeah that could be the $55 regardless yes uh $5 gets you add free
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on the site and you get early access to these podcasts as well as our pre-show
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uh today we talked about Godzilla and cyberpunk and I'm just kind of stuck on
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the Godzilla thing I Godzilla Godzilla cyber Punk game we need this CD project
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red please oh my God you know I just realized did you ever play the there was the Cyber Punk uh not the cyberpunk
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there was the Godzilla uh I want to say Minecraft do you remember that or am I insane I I don't think I remember MRA
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but that's regardless let's let's keep talking about patreon sry okay and we
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also had Benjamin updated their membership to $5 which thank you thank
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you thank you it is people contributing a little which makes this whole site go
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I greatly appreciate you for uh chipping in this week so thank you very much and
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uh if you can afford to support us financially please do again I really appreciate it thank you thank you all um
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so now we're just going to jump into some new stuff uh some of it's go out classic so that's that's first on our
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document so that's where I'm going to go sometimes I just read the thing in front of me sometimes linear is best yeah uh
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the anniversary Realms are now in their phase uh one no no that's on December
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12th yes December 12th so actually you know I went in and interrupted you but actually by the time people listen to
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this it's probably going to be live yeah well that's anyway as we're recording this this December 10th um it's most
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likely going to be the 13th or 14th before you guys get to hear it who are not listening to us live either way
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phase one uh Molton Corp anus Lair that's going to be on uh December 12th
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that's when that opens and the season of Discovery phase six is live now as far as I understand this with both the AQ
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raids uh both Temple and ruins of ofan ofan carage and the nightmare Grove
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which is like all four of the nightmare dragons in one easy to use place um I I
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I haven't done it I haven't seen how it works it it kind of feels like you go there and you queue up and then you just get randomly sent to one of the four
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places with one of the four dragons uh but but I don't I haven't actually done it yet so uh if anybody has actually
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done it and can tell me if I'm right uh that'd be great but I don't think anyone can so uh what was the other problem uh
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there was also raid bosses getting released with with the wrong yeah so uh
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so the raid has already been cleared super fast super fast but when the when the raid first opened uh players were
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going in and actually it was giving the classic era versions of these bosses and
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not the season of Discovery version of these bosses and the the classic bosses
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are easier just yeah because they don't have the special mechanics or nothing yeah yeah so um this was on Wowhead they
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gave an example that uh a guild named fast did a 24 second fight against
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princess huran and then the world first Guild The Guild that came in and cleared the whole thing B tribe did the same
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fight it took a minute and 28 seconds both of those are obscenely fast but the
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is if you told me that there was a like the minute 20 seconds when I was already been hyperventilating but you led with a
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26c one and my brain was like what did they do uh yeah but it's you know we've
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watched classic and all the the season of Discovery the classic era I we've
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watched players just tear through these classic boss fights but when they first
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rolled these out it was it was a lot easier and you just see this difference between a guild that went in there like
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immediately right when it versus a guild that didn't get to that fight until a little later when uh you know when it
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was updated someone said oops we're actually these the wrong versions of the bosses we're going to fix
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that uh so yes can can either of you imagine doing the huan fight in 24
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seconds it is 24 seconds I may have misstated it 24
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like it took like twice that to explain the fight to people like we were telling
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people what we were going to do and it took like like an like a minute like at least a minute to say okay she does a
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lot of poison damage you know uh probably several because you know every time you'd say certain words somebody
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would have like really risque jokes that I can't tell ready to go but regardless yeah just the idea of like 24 seconds to
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kill huaron I'm like did did did they bring back the the the Reckoning bug
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like what happened how did you do that much damage in 24 seconds and you're were like oh right uh a they were doing
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a fight that didn't have any they weren't associated with the the difficulty they're doing because they're
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doing season Discovery with all sorts of new and cool stuff and B they know the fight because it's been out for 20 years
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so they didn't they didn't have to worry about it crazy my my brain is like having a hard time parsing how quickly
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that is yeah I know after like that that was a that was a boss fight that at
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level my guild struggled with like real bad uh and when
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we got it down it was we all like there was cheers I actually knocked over cuz I
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had just moved into a new apartment um and I was literally raiding in a camp chair and one of those like wooden uh TV
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dinner tray things uh and when we killed her I jumped out of my seat knocked over
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the tray and smashed the screen of my map book that I was reading on oh no uh
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so like I I just always associate princess whoan with a $200 repair Bill
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uh and a weeks weeks long journey of uh Gathering uh poison resist gear or
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nature resist gear just to be able to hopefully kill her yeah huaron for me
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was cuz I was tanking like pretty much all the time at the time cuz if you were a warrior in a guild either you were an
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arms Warrior for debuffs and PVP or you were Pro or you were one of those 31515
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people who tanked everything um I I had cloth booties on when we did h on
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because we lost we had two really nature resist geared tanks I had I had cloth gear on as a male wearer too because it
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was all we could find we had two tanks that had gotten all of the nature resist gear because we we kitted them out to be
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the special tanks for huaran and one of them resigned the day before we were raiding it oh so they were like okay who
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here is insane and everyone was like he rossy's insane what do you need and I was like what what's happening they like
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yeah we need you to get like an entire set of of nature resist gear by 6 pm and
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I'm like that's five hours away you want me to have a complete set of nature your sis gear cut two Matthew runs every
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dungeon uh with a group of PE every dungeon that would allow you to bring in more than five people so basically
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Blackwing Lair Strath Holm and maradon did you know you could bring in full 15
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ra 15 people to maradon yeah yeah so we we went in to maradon with 15 people and
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just killed everything and if it dropped anything that had nature resist on it and and so I'm I literally waddling
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around with like this this green shield that I just bought at the auction house
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for for like some not enough money quite frankly it should have gone much more but I I think people weren't weren't
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really paying attention yet uh cloth boots um and and everything had feathers
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like every every model had feathers because it was all nature is this so I looked I literally looked like a gigantic green chicken as I waited into
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battle to to kill huaran and the thing is is they could keep me alive because
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of the nature resist right except when huaran would then come up and melee you y guaran would come up and melee you and
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I'm wearing cloth boots and and leather pants these these are not Warrior
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tanking gear so it I had to time my shield block combo really carefully for
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when she came in and and just pray at that point I'd hit like Shield wall I'd
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hit Last Stand I'd hit Shield block and just hope hope I could push her off my table long enough for her to go back to
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trying to kill me with poison and that's all I can really remember is that that was the scariest day of my life because
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I went from guy who sits on the bench and never tanks to guy we will now make tank for six months and every time it's
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going to be oh hey we got one another Dragon a nightmare it's 3:00 in the morning can you tank like yeah sure why
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why should why did I give you my phone number again I'm never doing this again yeah so yeah what they do now was amazing sorry
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ranted a bit anyway you got anything else talk I
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it comes down to the fact that the whole raid has already been cleared you got the world first for this by B tribe
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which congratulations even though it took you nearly a minute and a half to kill huon
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y are awesome anyway at least they they killed the full version so yeah so I got
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actually I talk about this because uh I had forgotten that patch 11.0.1 is next week um well I I had not exactly
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remembered this and then and then people occasionally remind me of the linear nature of time and it is in fact next
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week next week we were getting a pretty significant Wild Patch yeah I mean
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that's that's kind of nuts but that's what's happening uh couple weeks before Christmas and here's a whole bunch of stuff that can break um there's there's
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new transmog type stuff and you can look for on the siren Isle it's the siren a is where we're going uh in this patch
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yes and the it's as someone has pointed out in this article which I'll scroll up and see if Liz wrote it uh no it's it's
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Chris okay um it's basically similar to The Forbidden reach uh if you remember that from Dragon flight it's this this
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Island it's got weird invasions happening and there's stuff to look for and find you know the various mounts
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pets transmog uh apparently there's a ring that people don't like uh even with
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the it's got gems and it's it's still not as good C CI Circle right yeah cersi
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ciret yeah ciret um that's actually one of the big things about Cen is there's
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this new ring that you can get and then you find gems for it and you customize it and so far the numbers that are in on
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that from the PTR is that it's not great I it's yeah I'm I'm just reading this
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like this is exactly the type of item I hate and I'm not I don't want to crap on
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the the the patch because I think there's a lot of cool stuff coming but like looking at some of these gems it's
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like oh your damage is increased by 20% are you a damage dealer need to have that oh this one does it by 43% it's
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better than 20% you better get it uh your healing is increased by 44% I hope
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all the healers get that gem like stuff like that is weird to me I don't I don't
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like items that do that and we've kind of been through this already in the
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Forbidden reach we had a ring and it was so powerful like use it yeah it's you
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you had to use that ring and I I also I found that kind of annoying it's like
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this is so powerful it's more powerful than anything you're going to find and on this side it sounds like maybe not as
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powerful maybe it's going to be like okay compared to equal eye Lev items or
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maybe a little less than equal eye level items but it did get uh buffed on the PTR this week but supposedly still it's
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a little a little on the weak side but if you can grab this ring and it's
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higher eye level than what you have or what you have access to it'll probably be pretty good so maybe it's more still
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something you can solo right yeah but I I feel like I feel like the fact that it's going to have what three sockets on
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the ring but it doesn't like that I don't know like I have a feeling math
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wise it's going to become necessary yeah May and then well especially since if
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they if there are gems that do stuff other than just straight damage um you might end up basically it's something
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you end up it says unknown side ET for all three so I have at this point we don't know what the sockets will be like
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we don't we don't know if there's they sockets specific to gyms you find on the
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siren aisle it's not like you could Thunder sea and wind there like I'm
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looking at stuff like there's stuff that adds stats which we we kind of understand there's ones that do damage
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procs for nature um there's healing ones that do
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uh like with this one old old salt Old Salt Bic citrine uh your spells and
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abilities have a chance to whisper a sea shanty to five nearby allies healing them for whatever value over 5 Seconds
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like this is boring I don't like this item I'm sorry I know yall worked hard
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on it but this is this ain't doing it for me I didn't like it when it was the Onyx annulet I'm not going to like it now yeah whether or not powerful yeah it
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doesn't really matter yeah one interesting unusual thing about this ring is that when you put it on you can
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see it you can it has an active appearance on your character you can see you are wear wearing this ring that's
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cool yeah so that's that's a neat little addition I mean if you like wearing
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Rings if you don't like wearing rings I don't think there's a way to turn that off sorry but it's it's a neat little ad
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it also has apparently so the circlet itself has three unique sockets uh a thunder socket a sea socket and a wind
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socket uh which correspond to relevant gems in those categories and these three
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sockets can actually be used kind of like Rune words in Diablo um so that they can actually have like a stacking
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effect see this is this is the type of stuff that I don't like because it it it encourages casual players to dive into
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Min maxing and it starts really encouraging I don't want to say mid-
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tier players but players like and I'll say this in like our Guild uh to like
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really look at Min Maxine and I don't I don't like that I think that's it it be
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because then if you don't find the gem or you don't have a way to get the Gem that you need to give yourself the most
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effective combo you fall behind like that that feels weird and that maybe why it feels weak on the PTR is they don't
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want it to feel like a necessity but I this just too dangerous too too close to
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to feeling like the annulet all over again well we we'll see and we'll see very soon it does seem weird that
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they're releasing this patch so close to the Christmas holidays because if there
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is anything wrong with this patch well the next week is Christmas so hopefully
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hopefully this is like a super smooth roll out with no problems I'm keeping my
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fingers crossed yeah I mean what else can we do I don't have anything else to add on that one I don't know if you do
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Liz n and I think we'll for sure be talking about this more next week I don't think we need to talk about every
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little detail but I thought the kind of the latest opinions on the ring was interesting so I'm curious to see how
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that'll play out when we actually get a chance to grab rings of our own Matt did
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you have anything to add to that and in other news the Diablo franchise is having an interesting moment in that
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finally uh Diablo will make his first appearance in a Diablo game since the original Diablo I uh in that Diablo
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Immortal is finally getting the appearance of Diablo uh he's coming uh as part of an invasion event on December
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13th apparently it's called The Faded fight against Diablo uh I don't I I
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haven't been playing uh Immortal all that recently but it's to me it's interesting that we've now basically this is the end of the story that they
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started uh I want to say like two three years ago now I don't remember exactly when Immortal came out but it's been
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been a minute yeah it's been a little bit and that's that to me is interesting because it is it it is he's beating his
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appearance in uh Diablo 4 by by quite a bit now granted he you know Immortal has
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been out longer than Diablo 4 but it is still interesting that you know we still haven't seen we haven't seen hide or hair of Diablo in four no that's true we
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if we're we're seeing some other evils out there but not Diablo and maybe maybe
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Diablo was a little tired of Diablo like we've had we've had the whole franchise
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Diablo is always there Diablo and maybe we need a break maybe
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the other evil needed a chance to show off how evil they could be I mean I certainly don't mind them not doing
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Diablo way I think part of the thing that they talked about when going back to when Diablo 4 first came out one of
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the things I said was that in previous Diablos you You' get to the end of the game you'd fight Diablo and then there'd
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be at least one expansion where some other guy was the end boss and it's like in the case of Diablo I when the when
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Reaper of Souls came out you then had like like six seven years of malth as
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the end boss of Diablo I ultimately because it's not like they brought any you know that expansion came out there
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was no other expansion so Malo was the toughest fight that was the last fight in the game really and it's kind of
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weird that Diablo keeps being made into like you know second best in his in the game named for him uh if we're GNA have
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Diablo in the Diablo game it it might make sense to make Diablo the last thing you fight uh for no other reason than it
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his name on the box so I don't know but it is still interesting to see it coming
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especially since like I said they've been they've been working for this for like two years they're finally up to this point where Diablo is coming in I
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think that's interesting um I I don't at this point Diablo Immortal to me if they
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could if they could just throttle back on that that monetization it's an it's an astonishing game like I really it
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runs it runs amazingly on phones I think it was a couple of weeks ago maybe last
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week when Cory was here that I was complaining about how slow Warcraft Rumble is on my phone mhm that's part of
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the reason I don't play a lot of Rumble because I'll open it up it'll spend some time loading the app and then I'll click
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over to play a game and it's like I okay I'm using this team I'm going to play this map and then like the amount of
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time it takes to load and start the match I'm like I'm already checked out I want to do something
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else yeah and it is weird how good Immortal is on phones I I will totally agree yeah Diablo Immortal is so so
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smooth when I play it I will have my phone casting to my television I have a
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55 in OLED screen it looks incredible like we you know in the early days of
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immortal there were there was a lot of down talk about how this was a mobile game and how that's not great but it
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looks incredible it plays really smoothly and you know my phone's quite a
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few years old at this point it runs great it runs better than Warcraft Rumble which is a very stylized cartoony
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game with tiny Maps so I I do just wish the microtransactions were a tiny bit
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less so that we could just maybe enjoy playing the game a little more without feeling pressured to spend money yeah
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like the fact that you have to go to the store just to get the stuff that's not store purchases uh it just gets after a
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while you're like have you tried the store have you been to the store hey I I want to mention the store to you now cuz I feel like you're not thinking enough
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about the store the store the store Matthew go to the store like I'm not going to spend money on
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this I already have so many things to spend money on I'm not gonna like spend $500 on your Globes or whatever they're
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called now orbs whatever so yeah orb orb like big ground thing whatever uh but
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since we're talking about that we might as well mention there's two things here for Heartstone I believe or is it
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actually just one thing it's just one thing with two L okay it's yeah so this is a bug fix patch um what did they fix
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we did yeah we did have uh a little Hearthstone bug fix patch today and it is it is really little we've had two bug
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fix patches with since the last podcast in less than a week which seems odd but
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they're all fixing pretty tiny bugs it actually surprised me that we did two patches but they did fix one one bug
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that has been really annoying me which is whenever you open the battle pass it puts you to page three so you open the
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battle pass and you're on page three and then you have to scroll through like 10 pages to claim the rewards now your
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battle pass should open on the page to which you have new rewards so frankly
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thank you thank you you've saved me so many clicks but uh yeah it's it's kind of weird to have two patches in a week
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and they're all it's it's just little bug fix stuff I think it's good that they do bug fixes um I I also like bug
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fixes I appreciate it it's just a it's a little bit odd to see two in a week and now since we talked it before we're
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going to talk about it again Warcraft Rumble PC beta is available right now if you want to download it for the PC you
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can get it I don't know if everybody can get it if you have to be invited no I think it's no go ahead Liz completely
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open no invites awesome I was say I saw that on the launcher earlier when I was looking at it I was like oh it's there
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oh it wasn't something that I got invited to I could just install it okay neat and notes from Cory Cory left a
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note um there's a free bundle of stuff go ahead Cory Cory could not be here
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with us today but he did leave like a page of notes on Warcraft Rumble for us to go over yeah so uh first up there's a
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free bundle of stuff for rumble players if they log in on PC this is only visible on PC also twitch drops right
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now um the beta client looks nice and sharp on my computer and I get to see more of the map than I do on my phone
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which makes for an easier time there are also new details around the edges of the map which is neat uh new leader anarack
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is available in December 14th so that's like that's like couple days from here uh as the time of this recording yeah
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from December 14th to December 23rd 2024 um and may return so I'm assuming he'll
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return at some point uh you know because otherwise they just put a new new verak leader in just for this it's like they
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there's kind of this early time when the hero is completely available like anyone can jump in and earn him and but after
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this he's going away he's not going to be available to just grab and I mean typically they come back later sometime
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later uh but he's got a burrowing charge ability which mean he spawns little Beatles all over the place um as your
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units kill things so I I know the burrowing charge just from having had to
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deal with various nerubians over the years like anarak and N nurian so yeah
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hate that one but uh yeah it's interesting to see that they're they're going pretty pretty Ham on the idea of
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Rumble yes I pulled the ham reference out oh yeah but um it's actually
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interesting though because it might be a way around the fact that it seems to be bottlenecking on on phones uh if they
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can get it working well on PC maybe people can just play it there that is that is exactly what I thought oh man
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it's slow on my phone but they're just rolling it out on PC that'll be great I'll just play it on my Mac oh oh yeah
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okay yeah there's a problem for you that that is I'm sort of stuck there because this is a Windows PC only client and I'm
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kind of stuck on getting rewards too because you can only get these uh rewards by logging into the PC client
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which is Windows only well I mean you could probably also if you were if you were enterprising enough you could probably do like an Android emulator and
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then run it in an Android emulator on your on your computer I mean I really just need a Windows emulator I can set
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it up in wine or I could use the game developers toolkit and get it running
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that I'm afraid that is more work than I feel like putting this running the would help though because it wouldn't let you
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the freebies yeah but I if I if I do a Windows emulator yeah you'll be fine do that but I I'm just like H that's that's
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all I have to say yeah it is kind of it's kind of bad that you know like one of the companies that really sold people
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on their their Mac you know they we do stuff on Macs too then they stopped kind
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of you know I get it now we had a post we had a post on that that
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you know this week um that you know blizzard used to be a big supporter of Mac versions there were Mac versions of
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all of their games and then at Warcraft direct when they announced the Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2 remaster those are
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windows only there used to be Mac versions of those games now you can only play it on Windows and going farther
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than that if you Lo if you jump onto the website and look at buying the Warcraft
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battle chest with all of the remastered games it will list Mac system requirements it will list Mac system
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requirements for you but two-thirds of those games do not run on the Mac the Warcraft 3 reforged will run on the Mac
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as well as it runs on anything but uh Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2 so that kind of annoyed me finger quote run on Mac
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yeah yeah I I mean it it does support Mac but uh yeah neither of the other games do so it it really annoyed me I
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was thinking about buying it it's like oh oh you actually you really have to get you have to go into the fine print
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to realize that okay these Max system requirements are not Universal so and
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you know OverWatch was the first game blizzard didn't release on Mac and they haven't released a Mac game since except
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for World of Warcraft expansions Diablo 4 isn't on the Mac none of their new titles are on the Mac and now that
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they're owned by Microsoft it seems kind of doubtful that they're going to go back yeah so here we are here we are
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it's kind of sad there's I mean there's no blizzard hasn't come out and said we
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aren't going to support Mac anymore they haven't made a thing about that they haven't talked about it they've just
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quietly stopped releasing Mac and that's kind of it's kind of a bummer I agree um but that's pretty much
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everything we have to say about Warcraft Rumble so uh I'm gonna move on to this OverWatch news because it's kind of interesting uh mostly I just like the
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remember how OverWatch note here so uh season 14 Hazard is now live they just
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named the season after Hazard but I guess the things that are there's also hazards in the season not just Hazard
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there's other things that are hazardous it's it's season 14 Hazard that's that's what it's called um so I do remember
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when they used to have weird neat themes for the seasons but it does this seems to happen with a lot of games that have
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kind of a battle pass and season thing that they get to the point where like you're you're in double digits and you start naming It season 15 shoes in
29:24
season 15 we brought in some shoes those shoes are made for walking at your
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enemies uh you know so I don't know I I I kind of like the hazard guy himself
29:35
like the character if for no other reason that the voice actor did a comic book where he just read the comic book
29:40
to people like that that Bard made and it was kind of cool because his he doesn't sound like a voice actor he
29:46
literally does sound like somebody who they they mugged him on the streets and and and forced him into a van and then
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made him read this uh he is an actor he's actually got quite a few quite a lot of theater experience I'm interested
29:58
to see how that translates to a video game character um but yeah they're also G to be testing 6v6 mode and they're
30:05
gonna have the winter themed uh skins on the battle pass and uh winter watch is
30:11
happening that's now right it's live till January yep yeah and there's nothing new yes it is uh there's nothing
30:17
new you can do the maze snowball fight again but there is nothing new nothing
30:24
to earn just a some of the winter themed rewards on the battle pass so okay there well that does kind of
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lead us into our relatively full um other games section we have a lot of
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other games this this is this is a big week for non- blizzard games because
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this is the game awards week uh the game awards are on Thursday so we'll probably be talking about them more next week uh
30:50
but they're all these little an little extra events around it so there were just tons and tons of things going on
30:57
this week yeah we also have uh I was going to say we also had a couple couple game releases uh last week so you know
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yeah stuff to talk about but right now the first thing I to mention just because he's somebody we used to talk about all the time and and you know uh
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Greg Street who you may have known as ghostcrawler um he worked on World of
31:15
Warcraft for a long time he's the guy came behind the whole thing like nerfed him into the ground and you know he promised a pony he promised me a pony y
31:23
I'm still waiting and he worked on League of Legends for quite some time as well and now he he was working on their League of
31:29
Legends MMO before they decided that so um but yeah he started he showed off him
31:36
he works for uh I'm trying to remember the name of the company because it's a cool name but I I always blank on it when I'm trying to tell people it
31:42
fantastic pixel Castle thank God I wrote it in the um yeah I like the name fantastic pixel Castle I'm thinking
31:47
you're gonna name your game company something that's not bad uh but he's showing off like just really primitive stuff for project ghost um essentially I
31:55
think it was just unreal with some like ual unreal assets yeah from the initial
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the initial stuff it's like rough sketch work right if anything yeah the game was only announced last year uh we should we
32:07
should be clear to make that point also it's not Starcraft ghost please don't tell me that you know I said that Greg
32:12
Street's making project Starcraft ghost thing it's because he was known as ghost crawler so it's project ghost yeah maybe
32:19
or maybe it's just because this project right now this thing's less this thing is more vaporware than diab you know
32:25
than than a dragon aged Veil guard was for years where Liz didn't Liz didn't even believe the game existed none of us
32:32
could argue it I don't believe any bowar games exist until I can physically own
32:37
them yeah exactly uh but you know this this is interesting because they had
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said before that when they were going to do this they were going to do it really open they were G to just like show the
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whole process to people and I feel like that's it's interesting to see them start to do that like this is extremely
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barebones this is like you know know this is again just basic unreal assets
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uh but they're essentially showing off how it's going to be working um I I just
33:07
I really am interested to see it because you know this is this is one of the guys who's been really fundamental to like
33:12
MMO design uh I guess Le I guess Riot's saying that they're still working on
33:18
their League of Legends MMO uh considering the people that I know left riot after they decided not to go with
33:24
their approach I have a hard time imagining that they can have the momentum that they're saying they have
33:30
uh because you know it didn't just it wasn't just Greg Street um there was quite a few people blizzard and other
33:36
MMOs who went to Riot specifically to work on that MMO and they ended up not
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working on it and let's be honest MMOs are in a weird spot anyway right now yeah um most most games that are
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releasing are not MMOs they may have multiplayer aspects but when's the last
33:55
real big MMO release we've had uh the war within that's an expansion
34:02
when when when was the last time we can remember a non- blizzard one uh that the Amazon one that the always escaping me
34:09
but that's the only one I can remember New World Guild Wars had Guild Wars had an expansion a couple months ago maybe a
34:16
little longer than that so yeah it is it is not the Fe place it was in 2010 by
34:21
any stretch imagination it is it is just that is not the world we are in yeah and I think I think it's less about momentum
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now and more about quality and taking the time to have the quality and pedigree to like have something that
34:32
people want to play because MMOs are commitment right like they've always been a time syn in commitment but people
34:39
are more cognizant of it now especially with us in our adult lives we talk about this all the time with World of Warcraft
34:45
um you know wow I love you but I cannot give you 30 hours of my life right now when I could play it like a fulltime job
34:52
on top of my full-time job because I didn't have any other responsibilities that was fine and dandy MMOs have to be
34:59
they have to be something that is equal parts accessible and fun and do
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something that others don't offer or give you things in a very specific
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package so like Guild Wars 2 is still a fantastic MMO um yeah you know and
35:16
people there's a lot of active players in it I still have it install on my computer I still have I'm all the way up to date with expansions I haven't played
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the new expansion yet cuz I've been captured by a different game um but it
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you know it's there it's got it own thing Final Fantasy 14 still still running and has its own active community
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and wow offers its own its own special thing um there's still a handful of uh
35:40
superhero MMOs in the works in the background that we haven't heard anything about in months uh it's been a
35:46
while and I went digging uh like last week I literally went digging to see if there's been any updates on them uh and
35:52
so far the only updates I've seen have been on the CDA Heroes uh Legacy server
35:57
that were that are out there that are officially out there home uh home what is it homecoming yeah uh so like other
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than that I haven't heard any of the other projects or if they're still going or what's going on with them so them
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showing that they're working on something that they're actually making an effort and showing that there is
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something that in the works even if it is rough sketch work is a
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okay like I think that's I think that's good it's just that it's nice that that we just know that we have something yeah
36:29
exactly that's exactly it that there's some momentum there's some movement especially after um what was that other
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one that that the studio just announced uh the indefinite uh suspension of
36:42
operations because they ran out of money um I dude that's like asking me which
36:47
color you know which which letter and you know there's like a lot of letters man I don't know which one you're thinking uh yeah there's a that happens
36:54
so often but it was one of those things where like and we know a bunch of people that worked at that studio or that were working at that studio that
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unfortunately were looking for other opportunities um but like it it yeah
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there we're in a weird space is all I'm trying to say for like those types of games yeah speaking of weird spaces um
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oh go ahead list sorry I do think one of the most interesting things about how fantastic pix pixel Castle is doing this
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is that it gives you an expectation of what they're building straight away you
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know you can provide feedback and one one of the problems I think a lot of modern games have run into is that
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they're working on the game quietly and maybe not providing a lot of updates and
37:37
you know their noses the grindstone they're getting things done but you can wind up with a mismatch in what players
37:44
expect and what the developers are working on because you don't have a lot of communication you aren't doing a lot
37:49
of previews of early work or work in progress which on one side it makes
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sense not to preview unfinished stuff but the other side it seems like
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sometimes that results in players being disappointed because they aren't getting what they thought they get and if you
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get to see this process in in action you always know what you're getting you
38:12
always know the game the direction is heading and you know okay I'm super into this or you know that's not really for
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me and you can provide feedback to that effect along the way so I think this is great speaking of games that people
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didn't necessarily seem to know what they were getting uh the Indiana Jones and this and the the Golden Circle I
38:30
think it's called something Graven Circle great circle great circle Indiana Jones in the great circle uh is out and
38:37
it's actually doing pretty well sales-wise people are pretty interested in it I've seen a lot of reviews that say this game is not it's it's almost
38:44
like they took one of the original Indiana Jones games like the puzzle the puzzly elements and and the click on
38:51
random things stuff and put that into a modern open World Cell game uh and
38:56
people are liking it but but they're also like very much like I'm I didn't expect the game to be this uh and while
39:02
that's going on the game has not come out for PS5 yet and it's going to according to Microsoft and Bethesda but
39:10
it they don't know when they don't know when it's going to be coming out for the PS5 because they didn't actually block
39:16
out a time for it to be released because they wanted to focus on its release on on the uh Xbox and and for PC it's a
39:24
really I feel like you know in a weird sort of way that's a dangerous tack in a world where
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the the PS5 is orders of magnitude more popular than the Xbox um this is just a
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fact I prefer the Xbox but I am aware of what reality is and in reality more
39:42
people have the PS5 but at the same time it doesn't seem to be hurting this game
39:48
Annie uh Microsoft yeah sorry I was just what just want to chime in here for numbers to support mat's claim as of
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June and I don't know if this has shifted recently but as of June the PS5 had sold 61.7 million units while the
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Xbox series X had only sold 28.3 million yeah it's like three times as much yeah
40:08
they're they're currently ahead by 3.53 million uh units sold so just thr that
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there the thing that's the thing about this kind of console war um if you don't
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if you just don't if you pick the if you pick one and just say okay we're going to get a game out here eventually it
40:25
it's just like there you just leaving a lot of money on the table well this is a whole different topic and and and maybe
40:32
deserves its own time in the Sun but like the problem is is those numbers are a lie and the reason I say that is
40:39
Playstation only has PlayStation consoles Microsoft has gone all in on
40:45
Game Pass and the Xboxes are a secondary measure so they are yeah that's
40:52
absolutely true you were completely right so if you were to if we were to compare subscriptions to Game Pass versus subscriptions to PlayStation Plus
41:00
Microsoft blows Sony out of the water on Hardware Hardware Sales yes so yeah you
41:07
know we don't know what we don't know what that matters in the case of this because you don't get this game actually I think you do get it from Game Pass you
41:14
do yeah because I just realized that I have access to it I just haven't been playing it because I've been playing Veil guard is this the Game Pass
41:20
ultimate yeah yeah but Game Pass ultimate is what most people have because it's only five bucks more than
41:26
the regular one why not you also get access to it if you buy a new computer
41:31
or because there's a bunch of sales going on with that or if you buy a new video card uh new egg has a bundle thing
41:36
where you get oh buy one video card get another video card and this Indiana Jones game for free uh like there's a
41:42
lot of like weird promotion around this that Microsoft has thrown a lot of money behind trying to get people to play it
41:48
on other things I find myself wondering if that's in part because of Microsoft's real hard time with trying to get their
41:54
exclusives to be popular like you guys remember you guys remember uh redfall right yeah redfall was a console
42:01
exclusive and people just play Old didn't like it and part part of that was the fact that it was buggy absolutely
42:07
was it was buggy but I think a lot of it was simply it just wasn't the game people wanted the thing like Liz was
42:13
that was that was Arcane correct Arcane release red P it was
42:18
Arcane yes I love Arcane I've played a lot of their games and loved them but
42:25
they're much more on the single player RPG side and like if you look at prey
42:30
and they go yeah prey was great prey or the dis games you're not looking at this
42:37
weird shooter thing that redfall is so yes redfall they it was a shooter and it
42:42
had interesting characters but it's like it it was a shooter it was a team-based shooter a team-based multiplayer shooter
42:50
and I felt a lot watching the trailers for redfall the announcement for redfall
42:56
I felt a lot like I did when BioWare decided to stop making BioWare games
43:04
when they announced anthem when they announced Anthem and it's like yeah this is what the anthem's going to be a
43:09
Destiny clone and you're going to love it and it's not going to have any romance in it because who likes romance
43:14
and I like go ahead Joe I was gonna say the one thing that I do want to also point
43:20
out with uh Microsoft in general too is that I think largely because of their
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positioning with all the game studios and and stuff that they've been purchasing over the the course of the
43:32
last 10 years I don't know that they Bank on exclusives anymore either the
43:38
only they flat out said they don't but you never know would if they're saying the truth or they just trying to Juke
43:44
somebody so but I think they are and I think that they're doing the same thing that Sony does to them because and and
43:51
hear me out here and this we're going widely off topic but this you've you've awoken you've awoken the slumbering
43:56
Giant on this one as far uh as my intros go um it it's timed exclusives now
44:03
because even Sony exclusives PlayStation exclusives are released on PC they may
44:09
not be a timely release but games like God of War Spider-Man uh Miles Morales
44:17
lot horizon horizon yeah they're doing a remaster of Horizon 2 yeah the these
44:22
these get released onto PC and they're no longer exclusives I think the days of
44:28
of pure exclusives are gone and everything's all about timing now and so like going with this Indiana Jones game
44:35
where Microsoft has been pushing it it's a Bethesda game it's uh a game that
44:40
people are actually really enjoying from what I've seen at least the people that I've I know that have been playing it um
44:46
it will probably eventually make its way over to PlayStation but there's no rush for it because you can play it literally
44:53
on your toaster like you can play it on your your your refrigerator you can play it on your washing machine like it's
44:59
available on so many other things that it hitting the PS5 or whatever the
45:04
launch time is going to be on that uh is you know it's just gravy at that point and yeah and I think it is interesting
45:11
to look at that in terms of what you were saying before about the hardware versus the software like it it for
45:18
Microsoft Game Pass is the deal you are completely correct about that I shouldn't have thought about that go ahead Liz I'm sorry I think Microsoft is
45:24
in a weird place right now where I am not sure if Microsoft knows what Microsoft is doing in games they're in
45:32
this awkward place like are we a hardware are we selling Xboxes are we a game company are we selling games and
45:40
but it's like look at when they first bought Bethesda when they first bought Bethesda they stopped releasing Bethesda
45:46
games on PlayStation and now I mean they don't there has never been a
45:51
simultaneous release of a Bethesda game onto PlayStation since Microsoft bought Bethesda Bethesda used to support both
45:58
platforms now it doesn't and frankly I have no expectation that they'll ever
46:03
support both platforms because because Microsoft has bought them we just had
46:09
this conversation about blizzard blizzard stopped releasing Mac games but well before Microsoft bought them with
46:15
OverWatch and now that Microsoft owns them I have no expectation of ever seeing another Mac title from them so I
46:23
think Matt brought up a fair point which is there are a lot of play stations out there there are a lot of PlayStations in
46:28
the market that is a if you are a software company it makes sense to spread your software around as widely as
46:35
possible open it up to as many people as you can and Microsoft sometimes seems to embrace
46:41
that philosophy and sometimes does not sometimes sticks to its very PC based
46:48
users which is of course PC and Xbox as Joe pointed out and that covers that covers a lot of people maybe they don't
46:55
need PlayStation well the there's another there's another xfactory here too that nobody's talking about the
47:01
popularity of handheld gaming is back and all of the handheld gaming units that are selling are windows-based units
47:09
and so you have your Asus Rog allies you have your steam well I shouldn't say steam's not uh Microsoft but it's it's
47:17
it's Linux Steam OS um but MSI has their own one now there's there's like nine or
47:24
10 windows-based handhelds on the market now that are selling incredibly well and
47:30
they all integrate with Game Pass and so if your if your choices are 30 million
47:38
people who own a PlayStation or the rest of the world you focus on the rest of
47:44
the world and I'm not and I agree with you I like there there really while we would think of it is You' want to
47:50
capture that 30 million but the reality is the people that own a PS5 likely also own a PC handheld or a PC at this point
47:58
as well and so I don't I I I didn't say everybody um own a PC it's just a Mac PC
48:05
yes and Mac PC does not doesn't yeah it doesn't not run Windows stuff without
48:10
jumping through some hoops I I am also one of those people who's really annoyed by Windows PCS being PCS because PC
48:18
stands for personal computer so technically a Mac is also a PC but now everyone uses PC to say windows and you
48:26
can't just use it to mean Windows or Mac anymore I hate that that's yeah and and
48:32
that's fair and your rant is valid and I see you um but the the point is is most
48:39
most households demographic wise aren't just single unit households they're not
48:45
just the level the number of people that are PS5 and Mac exclusive and I
48:51
understand that you are one of those people is um that is probably an astronomically low percentage
48:57
comparatively versus the people that have a a Windows based unit or a Linux
49:03
based unit or a steam based unit that they can also play these games on um and
49:08
if you look at games like uh stuff that that we're getting from Bethesda and Microsoft immediately um they're also
49:17
being pushed with handheld configurations specifically for the steam deck but also now for like the MSI
49:23
dragon and the uh the Asus Rog Ally and stuff like that because they know that
49:28
those are starting to become exceedingly more popular and again it it's they're
49:34
hedging their bets and I I can kind of it's business sense I understand where they're coming from uh at least to a
49:41
certain extent it also punishes their Chief competitor because their Chief competitor is PlayStation who does the
49:47
same thing to them right because going back to like God of War it didn't release on windows at the same time it
49:54
released on PlayStation 5 it was what two years year and a half something like that two years before it was released on
50:00
PC same with the Spider-Man game same with all these other these other games and these are companies that make PC
50:05
games or or Windows based or computer-based games so they're just I
50:12
hate to say just giving the same that they get but it it's a weird spot to be in and if I was Microsoft I kind of
50:18
would probably be making the same decision I wouldn't care about developing for the PlayStation 5 as a priority if I know that most of my user
50:25
base are computer windows-based users or people that if they really want a game
50:31
and they're on Linux or Steam OS they're going to be able to do it the way they want to anyway they're going to have
50:36
access to it and if they want the game they're going to go get it and I'm not too worried about the 30
50:42
million people that have a PlayStation 5 the other thing is that when Microsoft
50:47
bought blizzard part of that was a commitment to releasing blizzard games on multiple platforms because there is a
50:54
big concern about Microsoft buying up huge swats of the game development
50:59
industry and then using that market power to crush other game producers and
51:06
I man I just wish we could all get along and game developers would release stuff
51:11
on multiple platforms I understand that's a technical challenge that sometimes leans in one way sometimes
51:16
leans on the other way it it can be technical hurdles but there are there
51:22
are technical hurdles but I'm also going to point to net e who just released a very relatively Smooth release across
51:29
all platforms simultaneously for their Marvel Rivals game which is you know is
51:35
on Steam and is on PlayStation and is on Xbox and windows based units and is
51:40
everywhere and has crossplay from the start uh and has all these things that people tell us are hard to develop for
51:47
and it's a free-to-play game it's like there are so many gamers out there on so many devices and in the end both
51:55
Microsoft and Sony their Market power in the console space is driven by the
52:00
number of people I don't their Market power is driven by the games like if
52:05
Sony doesn't have great games that you want to play you aren't going to buy a PlayStation if Microsoft doesn't have great games that you want to play you
52:11
aren't going to buy an Xbox and then there's noft does at least Microsoft kind of by having their whole deal with
52:18
the game but I do want to talk about something that isn't this and it's on the other games thing and we we're running a little bit low on time
52:24
although I still think we have a few minutes because of the problems we earlier I want to talk about wizard of the coast changing the name of one of
52:29
Magic's uh Realms uh ples yes the plain Walker's guide to Aether drift is coming
52:36
soon or it's actually out apparently it is actually so the the guide is out the actual release doesn't happen until
52:43
February but I it was a very interesting read um one of the things in it uh and I
52:48
didn't know this at all is that they changeed the name of the the plane that was known as Kadesh is now named avesar
52:56
and there's in Universe reasons for this they didn't they haven't ignored the fact that the nth place used to be named
53:02
kaladesh they haven't just said no it's always been this they've they're up front this we have changed it it changed it to this they have an in game reason
53:08
but they also have a real world reason and this is fascinating Joe do you want to like talk about this because you do more magic than the rest of us yeah so
53:15
this is this is Wizards and in particularly this is the magic branch of wizards actually doing something uh
53:22
intelligent human uh common sense so they the fir when kaladesh first
53:28
released uh they picked words based off of what they understood them to be so
53:34
kala meaning tomorrow or art with Dash meaning home or country and it was a
53:39
plane that was created uh based off of real life India that had a uh inventor
53:46
flare to it it was about artificers and making beautiful filigree mechs and it
53:53
was an absolutely stunning and one of the most beloved planes that they had ever created it's given us some
53:58
extremely iconic cards including being the home world of where one of the most
54:04
popular planes Walkers Shandra uh the fire-based red uh planes Walker that's
54:10
her home plane um she was a pyromancer she was a inventor and that's where she
54:16
came from the problem is is they didn't do when they when they did this back in the day any sort of sensitivity anything
54:23
uh they didn't do any vetting they didn't really ask anybody local or anybody that spoke the language and so
54:30
the word Kadesh also has with it connotations uh closer to black or
54:35
Darkness or uh other racially motivated derogatory terms that they were not
54:42
aware of so they heard people responding to this and saying you need to be aware
54:48
of this and actually brought in cultural sensitivity readers and people who are of that culture to sit down and say what
54:55
can we call it what can we what can we call it that makes sense and going
55:01
through all the iterations and then when they decided on it um they decided on
55:06
the a avish car which literally means um invention and it's it's based
55:15
off that word and it's a perfect encapsulation of what the plane is all about uh and the fact that they did that
55:21
and actually went through the effort to uh not only do the sensitivity training
55:26
but then give you a reason why it happened in the game world uh instead of wiping it away is absolutely fantastic
55:35
uh because one of the other things that I think is is interesting is they because of what happened during the
55:41
story last year at this point uh with new with fxia invading the Multiverse
55:47
and everything basically being broken apart the Realms being literally broken
55:53
and having to be put together again is that the opportunity to go back and fix things like this and have every reason
56:00
in the world to have it make sense on their lore without saying it never happened and I think that's really
56:05
really really cool um and I think that this is the most exciting thing I've
56:12
seen uh from them in in terms of development in a long time so I think
56:17
that's neat and I don't know if there's much else to say about it um but if you do want to read about it uh the Plaines
56:24
Walkers guide is available there's multiple parts to it it explains the Geer Grand Prix uh what Aether drift is
56:32
uh the fact that it is a racing based plane uh complete with some of my favorite key art that I've ever seen uh
56:39
which I will post in our our our chat for folks to see uh because it is
56:45
literally Shandra in full-on Akira mode uh and it makes me so happy to just see
56:52
this really cool art of a really cool character that I really enjoy uh and
56:58
then have all these wonderful automatons uh and also there's a thing where they have a shark man strapped to the top of
57:03
a car at some of the key art because you know why not it's magic let's go for it
57:09
okay um how much time do we have left Joe because I know we had some dis disruption we got a couple minutes go ahead all right I'm gonna try to run
57:16
through these baath Den nominees real fast just so people can get that's a that's a big one yeah I'm going to try
57:23
uh right now we've got animal well that's one of the Nom we should we
57:28
should lead that as part of game award season the baftas have released their
57:33
their nominees for the yes the B the uh it's I it's British Arts uh I can't
57:39
remember the FDA but it's it's the British Awards film film and television Association could be but I can't
57:47
honestly can't find it right now and I want to get through these so his first one is is animal well which I have not
57:52
played but man is it distinctive and weird it's like a very pixelated thing it's kind of like
57:59
Allison Wonderland on meth on methan acid via your computer in the 80s yep uh
58:05
it's it's there it is definitely something worth looking at uh it gives me nightmares then there's Astro
58:12
astrobot I want to call him astroboy but no it's astrobot uh this one's a PS5 one
58:17
uh it it it really doesn't the best part about this whole thing is that it's basically just cute robots and and dogs
58:25
um and you're going to go around looking for stuff and and exploring and it's just fun it looks like a fun game man 50
58:33
planets for fun it's like it's like if no man's sky was cute it's it's a it's a it's a it's a throwback to the old uh
58:40
character Platformers like Crash Bandicoot and Mario 64 stuff like that Dexter and Jack or whatever Jack and
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Dexter I think it was Jack and Dexter Jack Jack and Dexter then there's batro which I still can't explain to people it
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is some kind of building illegal poker simulator it's amazing it's poker but
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solitaire but neither of those things yeah like where your cards can actually change and do stuff and be weird and and
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beat each other up and it it is a strange strange game but it is also it's
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the kind of thing you don't get very often because it is fairly unique it is like a unique vision of something yeah and yeah it's just watching the you know
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animation of like the the face cards is just something to be seen uh it's I know it's on Android and I know it's on iOS
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so iOS and Mac so if you like computer games it's on anything it's on everything something and you can play it
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yeah so that probably is on a toaster somewhere maybe Boulders Gate 3 is a game you might not have heard of
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uh come on you know what Boulders Gate 3 is you knew it was gonna get nominated uh you're not surprised and I don't feel
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there's anything to I am surprised because it was a game that was not released in 2024 yeah but it wasn't
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fully released in 2023 they they didn't get it out on every platform so it counts for the British yeah this is just
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that's that's a weird one yeah next up is Batman Arkham Shadow it's a VR which
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it's a VR game but apparently it's such a good VR game or maybe it's just that you get to be Batman in a VR game so
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you're kind of like you know it's very it's very well done and is being uh very well received by everybody who's a VR
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Enthusiast uh currently available on the meta Quest um but it's a f length entry
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into the Arkham franchise it's not just an experience it's a game no it's a real game it's it's very similar to like
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halflife Alex except bigger um so yeah um I I don't know if any you guys know
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about black myth Wukong uh it's basically good old Sun Wukong it's Journey to the West uh but it it it's
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also you know kind of like a I mean game-wise it's kind of like equal parts Dragon's Dogma and and uh you know Elden
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ring yeah it's got a lot of DNA with it yeah a lot of action like it's a
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interesting game um I'm qu kind of surprised this is the first one that's he really done son Wukong since the
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weird one that he's voiced by gimy not gimy sorry uh gollum have you ever seen
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that one the one where you know The Monkey King is being voiced by you know Gollum but he's not doing a Gollum voice
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obviously so yeah that that's out there but this is this isn't how it's got a nomination it's I've heard really good things about it like it's really great
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I've not played it I was going to say if we're going to go through all these games man we got to go there's so many
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botney Manor which is just a first person puzzle game that's such a weird
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one because it feels like this is such a different genre like this is a much smaller kind of indish puzzle game yeah
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and the next thing on this list is Call of Duty Black Ops 6 which is just like that this this list feels so strange
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because it covers all genre all size and length of games it's Indie Games it's major AAA games it's yeah it's all over
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everything is happening I don't know basically any game that you've enjoyed over the last couple years cuz like
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factorio's on here and like factorio came out a while ago right yeah that is really odd I am very confused by this
1:02:10
list like I mentioned Black Ops 6 doesn't need me to tell you anything about it Cat Quest 3 it's a Cat Quest
1:02:15
game come on guys you know whether or not you want to play Cat Quest I don't need to tell you anything Crow country
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really weird cool thing it's a survival horror kind of game but it also kind of feels like stardo Valley um so yeah it's
1:02:29
it is neat but terrifying Minecraft is on this list yeah and then Diablo 4 is
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on this list which was also a game that released last year I think that they it's for vessel of hatred but I don't
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know but regardless there's it is Dragon Age The Veil guards on the list uh I did not see that is a game that's a game
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that actually did release this year so that is a little bit of a surprise um EA Sports f124 which is it's a a race game
1:02:56
guys you know EA Sports fc25 which is football uh and that's real football not
1:03:02
American football um factorio as as Joe already pointed out it's the really
1:03:08
bizarre space show what is going on with this rocket launching game I never understand how to tell people about it
1:03:14
Final Fantasy 7 rebirth which I mean that came out last year didn't it or did
1:03:20
it not it's still in the process of releasing so like part one part one is
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out part two is not released yet okay that's yeah Final Fantasy uh 14 yeah
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Final Fantasy 14 online got got itself a nom the last ones we're going to mention although there are I literally could
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stay every 20 minutes Frost Punk 2 which is amazing Frost Punk 2 is really really
1:03:42
good and since it's it's been released on Mac so you should definitely think about getting it hell divers 2 um I
1:03:48
don't know anybody that wouldn't like it who hasn't already played it but it's good it's it's it's really it's got a
1:03:56
lot of nice anti- capitalism in it uh and that's nothing else I really feel like I have to mention although there's tons of stuff in here the Legend of
1:04:02
Zelda is in here but metaphor reant metaphor ref fantasio is one of those games that's been getting I haven't
1:04:08
played it but it's been getting a lot of great Buzz for the quality of the story uh and Harold Harold halbot that one's
1:04:16
on my list that's that's on my two playlist I haven't gotten around to I'm going to say go find the list at The
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Bash website and read through everything that's there it's worth just taking a look at all of
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The Oddities that are are being I shouldn't say Oddities all of the games that are getting recognition both old
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and new things I'm gonna recommend really fast little kitty big city uh Pacific drive and nevera those three
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look those up yeah I'm just gon to read the list there's too many good ones on here I'm not gonna no I'm making myself stop I'm making stop this is such a
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weird list the the most interesting thing about the list is how weird it is yeah yeah I would agree with you send
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you a saga hellblade too yeah definitely we're going to stop now I have to close this or I will just keep doing this so
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