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Do you remember how last week we were talking about how voidy and purple the Midnight expansion has been? Well, hold on to your shorts, because patch 12.1 has been announced and it's acid green and snaky. We're shook, but especially Liz, who doesn't particularly enjoy snakes, and wishes there was a filter like arachnophobia mode, where all the snakes turned into crabs. There are so many new features announced already, from the new Lairs, which are sort of a new version of World Bosses, all the way to a WoW Discord integration, which we're a little skeptical is all that useful.
Also not purple is the Midsummer Fire Festival, which has come to WoW until July. There are a ton of orange rewards to collect, including a very hot new mount.
There are also new seasons coming soon to Diablos 3 and 4, and for Diablo 4 this includes a collab with Overwatch, bringing some of those hero skins into Sanctuary. This is just making me wonder when we'll get that Raynor skin for Druids. Or do Druids seem more like Tychus?
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hello everybody and welcome to the podcast we're here to talk about blizzard entertainment and
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its many games and possibly other things who knows but but most likely uh we've actually got
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a fair amount of news coming in because patch one point 12.1 is coming uh but first an understatement
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That's an understatement, Matt. I do. I want to introduce Liz and Joe, if you guys will let me
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Liz Harper, editor-in-chief of everything else. She's the Tylosaurus Rex of the site
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And Joe Perez, who... Do you have a dinosaur or a prehistoric animal you like the most, Joe
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I should have asked Liz that, too, to be honest. No. Okay. It's unfortunate for you
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Why don't you like them? Why? Anyway, like I said, lots to go on
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12.1 is called Curse of Ula Tech. And we're going to be seeing it in August 11th, which is not that far away
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Probably. That's our guess, but Blizzard's pretty good. Yeah. I have things to say about Blizzard dropping certain things at certain times
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but we probably will talk about that later. But regardless, this is a pretty distinctively huge patch
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and we were expecting it to be pretty big. It's a major patch, yeah. uh i there's instead of me trying to read all the stuff coming i'm gonna like throw it around
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to you guys to talk about stuff you like i want to mention the thing i like uh is layers i think
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that's cool i also think it's a direct rip from diablo 4 yeah can can you tell us what layers are
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yeah i am uh that's exactly what i'm gonna do because i'm excited about them uh basically you
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know right now wow has these things called world ball and the world bosses occasionally wander
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around they just show up wander around people run out and kill them and then you're like when are
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they coming back when are they coming back and sometimes they come back on a rather routine
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schedule sometimes they they like alternate on a weekly basis or a daily basis uh layers basically
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are going to be like you can go kill a world boss inside an instance and so you'll always know where
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to where and when you can go get it. I just like the idea
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I have not yet, I know very little about how it's going to be executed, but just the idea of not having to be like
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oh, which one's up? You know, to be able to know, oh, he's got a lair
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Let's go to his lair. We can kill him there. That's great. Yeah, it's convenient
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So that is to me very exciting. I like, but now I will toss it over
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unless you guys have more to say about lairs because I think Liz might. The other thing is lairs have multiple difficulties
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As it stands, world bosses are just, they are what they are. And this, you'll be able to do them at kind of the world of the standard world boss level, but you'll be able to do them up to mythic difficulty, I believe
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So you can, so the question I really have about these is what's, yeah, what's different between this and like a one boss raid, which is, we just got a one boss raid with Sporefall
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Sporefall in the last patch. Sporefall? I think I have that right
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And it's like, is this a lair boss? Is this a lair
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Or not? I don't know. I don't know. But it's interesting. A little change. I'm hoping
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they'll eventually do what they did in Diablo and start bringing other
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things in. Right now there's a whole bunch of lair bosses who weren't all
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originally lair bosses. Some were just big mobs you thought. In Diablo 4
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Yes. And I'm looking at all the world bosses we've had since say
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I'm going to go with Dragonfly. There's a fair amount of them. You could put in layers and you could
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bring them back for current expansion levels. Because you're going to have to update
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the loot they drop and you're going to have different difficulty. I'm feeling like this could
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be something they expand. I don't know if it will be, but it could be. Right now we don't even know if they're going to do
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all of the bosses currently in Midnight. you know they might not yeah they might not they might just do new world bosses in this way yeah
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and that would certainly be that seems that would be easier that would be the most straightforward
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and i certainly suspect that at least this time it's only going to be the new world boss and
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they're going to see how it works and how good the experience is or how bad the experience it is
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is and go from there deciding how to do future development yeah but that's pretty much a sure
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I would guarantee you that's exactly what's going to happen, right? Yeah. How does this work
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What's the server load? Does it break anything else? How many people actually have to queue up for it
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I mean, people are going to queue up for it because it's a world boss, right? There's probably going to be weeklies or dailies or whatever that you go and kill a layer boss
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Because layer bosses are essentially insta, right? Yes, exactly. But like Liz said, they will have multiple difficulty levels
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So that also might make it more attractive just because instead of the world boss has what it has
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and you go if you need it and you don't go if you don't. If you can get it on Mythic before you can do Mythic
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in the other raids you're doing, you can get some Mythic gear out of it
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I like the idea. I am reserving judgment until I actually see it in action
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Liz, what are you excited for? I mean, there's so much stuff in here
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because obviously it is a big major patch. We are going to be going to the Coiled Isle
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which is that big island off the coast of Zoliman, where we definitely thought we were going to be going next
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If you do the quest chain in Zoliman, it's the main story quest
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It kind of wraps up with the suggestion that, yeah, we're going to head to this island
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Zoljan is literally staring at it. He's sitting at the edge of the thing staring at it
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He's staring at it and thinking deep thoughts. Your dog is standing up and going
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shaking its tail and pointing at it. He's like, what's that, Lassie? And if Lassie could talk, Lassie would say, yeah, we're going to Ulitech
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Yep, over there. I mean, it was certainly, it was strongly suggested already that we were going here
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And of course, on July 7th, in-game, we're going to have a new quest with Zol'Zhin that will kind of lead us towards the expansion
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It's sort of a tie-in quest, but it's not available until July 7th
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But that's pretty close. We're not that far away. so we're going to have a big new story
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obviously we're going to have new raid and all of that good stuff that comes with new content
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we're going to have a new raid, we have a new dungeon we have three new delves
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so that is the 8 boss venomous abyss raid, the altar of things dungeon
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and as well as new prey hunts so they're going to continue
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the prey system and you'll have new prey targets in the coiled isle
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so there's just so much going on here my my problem here and I know we have we have the
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listeners out there who you know you love the seth rec you love the snakes I am terrified of
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snakes I do I I would be fine with not having snakes in my video game and now there are going
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to be snakes everywhere there are going to be lots of snakes all of the current delves are going to get new snake and venomous themes available and i like i could i could do without this I would be fine without this And yeah but that not an option
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This is happening. We're going to have to deal with it. I feel like they're going to need to start putting in arachnophobia type modes, but for snakes
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I mean, yeah, usually snakes and WoW are a little cartoony. So, I mean, usually it's okay
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But the worst snakes actually were the ones on the Timeless Isle
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They just had a kind of movement to them and a little bit more realism than the standard noodle snake that I was like, oh, I don't even want to look at these
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And they're everywhere. They're everywhere. So, yeah. Yeah. There's going to be so much to do
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There's going to be a lot of things to do. on the Coiled Isle. There's also a special
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talent tree that you progress in by doing stuff on the Coiled Isle, which
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will give you extra things that are useful there. Like not dying
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in poisonous lakes. Which, that sounds pretty good to me. Things like that
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So there's going to be a new progression system. It's just a pile of content
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It's a big .1 patch. And I'm curious as to where the story goes we're obviously doing more troll things and i'm really curious where the story goes
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and that's that's all going to kick off on july 7th for the patch probably coming early august
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well we know what about i was gonna say we know some of the story is going to evolve around the
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loas because there's a lot of that stuff that's going to be happening there's a lot of loa questing
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uh and what's happening on the coiled isle is tied up with something that happened with Loa
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and like whatever they tucked away there and what Ulitech actually is
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so yeah like me personally though the two things that I'm most excited about
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the raid is going to be fine no problem with that I just enjoy
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the raids with my friends at this point so I'm excited to have another
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raid I'm really excited for the midnight season 2 Mythic Plus rotation
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and I know a lot of people aren't because the dungeon pool is
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going to be difficult for people so we have the new one, the Altar of Fangs
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is going to be in the rotation. Murder Row, which has an RP
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heavy section and people generally don't like RP heavy Mythic Plus keys, which I can understand
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but that's going to be in there. Den of Nalarak, the Blinding Veil
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and Voidscar Arena are going to be there. And then returning, we're going to have King's Rest
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which I know some people feel very strongly about, Ruby Life Pools, and then the Temple of Seth Rollis
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which makes perfect sense. We're going to be in a snake zone
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so why not have the snake dungeon? So I'm excited for that rotation
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I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Super excited for that. I am also very excited for the player housing additions
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with blueprints now you're going to get more stuff like we're going to get pets that are able
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to wander the house um three new house levels that boost decor limits that give you access to
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large houses uh a new revamped dying system which i hope will be easier to comprehend and use in the
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current one uh but the blueprints are really what it's a low bar blueprints are what really
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really sold me on it because there's such a big community around housing and wow and there's so
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many websites that have these wonderful builds giving a code like, oh
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this is my secret bedroom Elven library room that like I'm building
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which I am currently building. Here's the blueprint code for that specific room
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Now anybody can import it as long as they have the pieces for like
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it's a really cool concept and something. A lot of players were really asking for
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for a good length of time. And I'm glad to see it. I'm hoping that also then starts to have them balloon out into other things that people have been asking for for housing
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Like, oh, if we can do blueprints, maybe we can do stamps where, oh, you created a five by five grid of something and you need to repeat this pattern and you have all the materials for it
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Let's just copy and paste this where you want it to go. Kind of like Sims-esque type thing
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So I'm hoping that we see more into there. But I'm excited
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I think those are really cool additions to. All right. I think we should mention also speaking of things people have wanted for a
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while, we're also getting two new war band camps, which, I mean
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that's pretty cool if you want that kind of thing. I don't think I'll use it, but I know a lot of people do want, in fact
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or like, do I have to keep looking at the same stupid thing? No, I want more
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So yeah, that's pretty awesome. Just more, more, more attention to the war band
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So that's nice. We're getting a Silvermoon version and a VoidSilver. I think they're nice
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I think they're nice ones. Calling it VoidSilvermoon, that's interesting. That's a good point
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Well, it just, I don't know if that's its technical name, but it's Silvermoon in its, you know, void state
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It's Voidy state, yeah. Voidy Silvermoon. Vilvermoon, no, that doesn't work. Looking at the links that we have to various sites, I got to talk about this backpack
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Go ahead, Liz. Data mining is really just starting here. But of the things that have been data mined in the new patch, this one item really stood out to me
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And Matt, why don't you explain this? It's a shark backpack. I don't know how else to explain this
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It's a big toothy mouth shark backpack that you can wear. and we'll have a giant shark just there behind you
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with its giant mouth open, ready to bite things. I don't know if it actually does bite you
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It does look angry. It looks a little angry. I don't know if I would want to go around with this backpack
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But you know what this would match with would be a Tuskar-allied race
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Yes, which I think would be nice. I don't know anybody who wants to play a Tuskar
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I'm literally vibrating to my seat right now. I hate you both. but seriously though wouldn't you i mean if you had a tuscar this would be like the first thing
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you'd want to put on its back it's up there it's up there and now if the shark came if the shark
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came with sunglasses it'd be absolutely the first thing well dude give it time i mean pepe didn't
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have all that stuff when it first came out once we've all embraced this is not jeff the backpack
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yeah um and we have to like you know understand that that there's only room for improvement with
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First off, I got to say, it is, as Liz pointed out, it is one less than happy looking backpack
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As is right. Yeah, it's, you know, we have some pet backpacks you can wear
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We have some murloc backpacks. We have the fox backpack. And both of those, the sloth, yes, all of those look like content, happy animals riding around with you having adventures
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This shark does not look like that. What's wrong with you people
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you dragged me out of the ocean I need water to breathe so
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it like I I want it and also it too which I think as as Joe just pointed out is all right and proper You should be afraid of it But yes it Shark Backpack I just like you know
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I was watching a video today. I don't remember who it was by. But one of the things they said was that there's lots of
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there's a different Overwatch character for all sorts of different kinds of players
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Like, do you want to be brooding and cool? You can be like Cassidy, the cowboy
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Do you want to be this other thing? You can be my. And if you happen to be a jet pack wearing cat
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well, you won't believe me, but, and then it cuts to the jet pack cat. And that's kind of like how I feel about backpack shark
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I didn't know I wanted backpack shark. And now, now he's all I can think of
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If anything happens to backpack shark, I'm going to destroy all life on Azeroth
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And then myself, uh, because just, you know, that's a, um, I just
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I love this guy. I, I, I love him. And I'm, I am honestly terrified because he looks like he's
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is going to bite me the second my back is turned, which my back will constantly be turned because he's a backpack
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He's literally right on the back. I got no defense. This guy's going to bite me
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But, yeah, I think that's pretty cool. Obviously, there's going to be new gear and stuff
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Not only will there be a new raid full of gear, but there will also be people will be upgrading that gear
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Go on, Joe. We need to talk about this a little bit because there's a lot going on here
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So one of the things that they did talk about as far as there was a blue post about it a few days ago, which explained some of the philosophy towards endgame reward changes, which in Curse of Ulitek, they were looking at making them a little bit different
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So things that they learned in this season. One, Nebula's Voidcore rolls, good
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We like them. They're staying in the game. They're great for you chasing specific items
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I'm air quoting great because some of us don't get good rolls. But you get an extra chance at getting that one thing you're chasing
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It also lets you gear up alts and get them up to stuff if you're switching your main
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which we have a lot of raiders that are doing between Season 1 and Season 2
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So they're very, very good for that as well. And then adding them is a great vault reward
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Thumbs up. everybody seemed to like this it was a rousing success we're going to keep doing the thing that
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they did notice and this is something that we've talked about before is particularly on this
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podcast is that gearing in midnight season one was quicker than they had anticipated but also
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surprised us with how quick it was you could get to a relatively high gear level very very quickly
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because your Mythic Plus rewards, Dungeon rewards, Delve rewards, the number of things that you were able to unlock essentially in the world
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were all viable. They were all within range of reasonable performance. So even if it was a suboptimal piece, you go and get it
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it's still probably going to be a good power bump for you. So they're looking at adjusting that a little bit
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So with the Void Corps, while they will still be a great vault reward from the beginning of the season, they are going to not have Decimus handing them out weekly, so to speak, as quickly as he did before
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And I'm air quoting quickly. but Oren's Straylight is going to be taking that over
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in Silvermoon it's going to be next to the Catalyst which is going to be an 8 week process
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to unlock that where you'll get a 1 every week plus whatever you possibly get from the vault
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when you're doing it they're also looking at how levels of the gear available
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will become available so great vault rewards for raiding will now be altered
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so your LFR, your normal and your heroic vault rewards will always jump to the first step of the next upgrade track
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For example, all heroic raid vault rewards will be at Myth 1 of 6
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Mythic raid grade vault rewards will always be full Myth 6 out of 6
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apart from very rare items and other things from the very last boss or the super rare items
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those will be equivalent to myth nine regardless of whether found as a boss drop or the great vault
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so they're making it slightly harder to get the gear but making it better when you do get the
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reward which sounds counterintuitive but will probably streamline and make that process feel
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a little more rewarding and a little less cramped it also will potentially i don't want to say
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smooth out the disparity because i think you're always going to have that no matter what you do
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but it should be a little bit better. Yeah. Then we have catalyst changes
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where basically people just kind of converted everything. I think good. I was working on it if you didn't, so good
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Yeah. So the value of armor items, item armor drops in class set slots
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has been greatly reduced to sort of make it feel a little more rewarding
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when you do get an item that can be converted into a set piece, but also means that your class set armor will, you know
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essentially your drops are going to be, you're not going to be over them immediately. And we noticed this in our raid, right, Liz, where not everybody
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but certain classes were like week one, we're like, oh, well, we're just getting rid of these drops already because people have already
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converted stuff over and whatever the case is. But now when you do upgrade something in the catalyst
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Another interesting thing is that class set armor will now inherit the secondary stats from the original converted item
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This will also apply to a certain special effect going forward, such as Ulytex Venom Cursed Armor, which that's kind of huge
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Because there has been many times where I've had an item that is spectacularly statted for my particular needs, but a tier piece needs to go in that slot for whatever my gearing reasons are
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and now instead of like oh well i'm gonna be getting rid of all this crit and i'm gonna have
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all this this versatility or mastery and i don't need any more versatility or mastery it's like nope
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it has all the crit enjoy like that's really cool i really really like that back drawing in reforging
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ish yeah kind of it's not i mean it's not going to be abusable the way reforging was because you
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won't be able to just go to a vendor and stack all your gear there and say now make it all have
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crit, but it is essentially a way to get a piece of gear
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And rather than just, Oh, this is just upgrade fodder. You'll look around and go, Oh, this one of the, of the things I've got
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this one is perfect. I don't want to lose these stats. So now you can do that
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You don't have to toss it aside because I need to get my set bonus
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It also means you can be, it also means that you can be slower and pickier
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about what you upgrade and convert, which I think is the, the point
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Instead of just doing breakneck P like I got to get four piece. I got to get four piece right now
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Now you can pick and choose and make sure that you have the right stats you need and your four piece, which I think is really cool
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And then last but not least, ascendant void cores are back, but they're going to be ascendant venom stones
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Same thing. You can upgrade a fully upgraded weapon or trinket to a next tier up but they also adding necklaces to this as well which will then be whatever the level eight equivalent is
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So returning mechanic, really good, and you'll earn it the exact same way
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So no big surprises, but really good changes, potentially, to endgame rewards
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We will have to see how it plays out and how players fare with keeping balance with each other
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All righty, I think we covered a good deal, but is there anything else, Liz, that you think we should make
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I do think we should talk about the Discord thing, which is you'll be able to
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Yeah, I know. I'm a little. I don't know about this. You'll be able to link your Discord to your WoW account and guild leaders will be able to link their guild to their guild Discord
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So that means you'll be able to see Discord messages inside your inside World of Warcraft
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And I'm not sure if it's vice versa, but you'll be able to see Discord chat in WoW
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So, I mean, this is a cool idea. We have a lot of content that's just a lot of our guild is a lot of Discord talk
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So, on one hand, I like this idea. On the other hand, do I want to do this
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This sounds like a big security risk. It sounds like a privacy risk. I've known several people recently in the past two or three weeks who have gotten their Discord stolen
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and it seems very problematic. So I'm interested and also really worried
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There's two things about that. The one is that I think it's linking Discord to your WoW account
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is now basically making it so you're possibly vulnerable to Discord problems and to WoW problems at the same time
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and you might lose both in one go. Yay! But on the other hand, I think what's amazing to me
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is the WoW Classic Ventrilio version of this that they're rolling out
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That's just amazing. They were going to do TeamSpeak, but TeamSpeak's two, you know, Burning Crusades
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That's going to just be, you know, Burning Crusade. I'm kidding. I do love the idea of them having to do this
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with Ventrilio. Yeesh. No, seriously, the idea of, you don't want to lose everything in one go
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And that is something that bothers me. So I argued for days online on Reddit about this
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I'm not going to lie. Discord is not just trying to integrate with WoW
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It's trying to integrate with a lot of the games that are out there and a lot of the platforms that are out there and trying to get its hooks into just about everything
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And a lot of us do use Discord. I mean, heck, we're recording through it right now
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And it's nothing against that company. However, there are several concerns regarding privacy and age and other stuff that are, they haven't gone away
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We talked about them at the beginning of the year, the age verification that Discord is going to try to push through at some point, which people are like, literally people have been arguing, this is a good thing
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Why wouldn't you want this? Then you know who you're dealing with. It's like, no, I don't want to upload my ID to Discord to a third party to have AI scrape my stuff
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It's like, well, you already give that data already to, you know, if you sign up for a YouTube account or, or, you know, anything like that, you have to give that information already
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It's like, no, I don't have to give my driver's license ID number and social security number to YouTube to sign up for a brand new account
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That's not how that works. But here. And it's also like, I want to share less information with giant corporations
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I don't want to expand this. We're already oversharing online and too many people already have our personal information
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And so complaining so much about the brain slugs. You already have the worm inside you harvesting your organs
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Just because something's eating my organs doesn't mean I also want it to eat my brains
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I'm sorry. Now, don't get me wrong. Like, and I understand there are a lot of people that are very excited about this because they don't want to run double monitors
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They don't want to have discord up and to see chat. I get that
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I understand that. It's not for me. It's not something I'm going to be doing
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And it's something that I think we've already talked about in guild that we're not going to be doing
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We're not going to be linking that stuff together. And I think that is good for us
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And the problem that I have with that is there's stuff that we post on discord that I don't want exposed in game and vice versa
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And I'm not saying that it's like loot or anything like that, but like, we're weird
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Like we'll post like weird memes about stuff. I don't need that in the middle of wow
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like I like having that separation personally where it's like okay I know if I go to the curse
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channel on our our discord I know that I'm going to expect some unhinged stuff right never I see I
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I deal with that by never going to curse channel right it's better my life is better but again
27:15
it's it's a cool idea but in this day and age I find myself wanting less of my things connected
27:21
than ever before. The fact that I have Twitch and my Battle.net account
27:27
integrated at all is just because I want to get drops, and the minute I don't have a drop
27:32
I disconnect it. It's cool. It's a cool idea. If we lived in not
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the end times of all things great with the internet, I'd say let's
27:41
go for it, but no, I'm good. This is not for me. I don't think I'm as negative about it as you
27:47
but I also don't think I'm going to do it. Maybe I'm just Econinius because
27:51
at this point. I feel like at any moment they could finally kill us all, so
27:55
I'm not worrying about Discord yet. At the same time, though, I don't want Discord to
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have access to anything that could be sold to people so they could pretend to be me
28:05
and start credit accounts and then leave me stuck with it or whatever else
28:09
might happen. Might wake up, my organs have been stolen and replaced with the Steam Cube
28:15
or whatever. Just know. I don't want you to have this information, Discord
28:23
Nothing personal. I don't want anyone to have it. I don't. I think it's personal
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It's personal. I don't want you to have this. Yeah, but it's not personal for me because it's just ��
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It's not me. It's you. I don't want you to be – yeah. I don't like that
28:38
That's a great line. It's not me. It's you. Wow. Now I know how – yikes
28:44
That's a breakup speech right there. Yeah. Anyway. we've talked about discord in a terrifying way unfortunately it's impossible to break up with
28:53
discord so i can only i can only say that for myself but uh well we've talked about all that
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stuff and we should probably talk about the midsummer fire festival which is now live and
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will be to july 5th so the day after the big explosions day in the united states um they're
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actually adding they added stuff in 12.0.7 i was about to say they're adding it but they already
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he did. It's live! There is so much stuff. Which is cool
29:21
Quite frankly, I'm fond of Ahun. I'm fond of the Ice Stone
29:27
I like that it keeps melting. I don't think it's still bugged anymore, right
29:31
He doesn't keep yelling. No, no. That's been fixed for maybe a few years
29:38
Yeah, who knows. We're going to have... There's new achievements per faction. There's the
29:43
Flame Warden of Midnight for both Alliance So you get to go to other places and be a flame warden. That's nice. There's new cosmetic items. If you want to buy more transmog looks or, you know, other pretty dresses or what have you. I think they've got like weapons and stuff too
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It is an absolute mountain of new transmog. It is a mountain of new transmog, and I need so many burning blossoms to get all of it
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Yes, that is, of course, the curse, right? I just need to be doing Fyre Festival full time until July 5th to buy all of these things
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And then I can go back to doing ritual sites to get Voidlight Marl and the ritual things to buy all the Void transmogs
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So it's just, it's a little refreshing break to do fire events instead of void events to buy transmog
30:35
The True Wings game. That's, yes, exactly. Well, and then there's your house transmog
30:40
So you've got two now. Yeah, it's tough. There's also aerial quests coming in
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So that's cool. I don't know exactly how they work because I'm literally looking at the Blizzard post right now
30:52
you're you're basically it's uh they're little fire blossom things and you go up in the sky and
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fly through them that's it's a pretty easy quest and they seem to be in all major cities and they
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give you blossoms they give you blossoms so you want to go everywhere and fly through things
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and so i guess it's just it's a lot of flying it's a lot of it's a lot of but that's what the
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Fire Festival is you're going all over the place to do events everywhere
31:21
And yeah, there's, there's so much to do. I need so much currency
31:26
And there's a new feed in to the Ahun thing. So you can get some blossoms from that. Oh
31:31
so yay. Then you get to kill Ahun, which is always, I don't like him, but I do like him
31:35
I just like, it's one of those, you know, I like, it's like
31:39
I loved Onyxia for years. I didn't like Onyxia as a person
31:43
I just loved kicking her over into seeing what she would drop out. that's as much the same way I felt about
31:48
you know every dragon like you it's yet another loot pinata so I am totally down for Ahun
31:55
I wish Ahun was around more but then he wouldn't be as fun to get him
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now so and again more Burning Blossoms which again you are going to need
32:05
because yikes there is a lot of stuff she is not kidding
32:10
no there's just if you want your fire festival transmog. There is a ton of new
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transmog to buy this year. So I love it and I hate it
32:22
Yes, of course. Once again, it is, you know, it's like that old saying
32:26
it's the cause of and solution to all of our problems. But now I guess
32:30
we're going to talk about Diablo 4 for a bit, I guess, and maybe Diablo 3
32:34
as well because I'm actually going to start with Diablo 3 just because it's only one thing
32:38
and it's also numerical. 3 is before 4. Very satisfying to move forward numerical
32:44
Season 39 is starting on June 26th, which you're probably in. That's in the future for us, but it's probably in the past for you
32:56
Or it could be, you know, it could be the present. You know, it's actually right now
33:01
But regardless, it's going to be the Shadows of the Past theme, which is basically a repeat of this theme from, I want to say, season 22
33:09
I don't remember what season it was, but it's been a while. And of course, they're just we're just getting recycled themes in Diablo 3 these days
33:16
So, yeah, this is the one with the shadow clones, right? Yep, I believe so
33:20
Yes. But regardless that that one, it's kind of interesting. They didn't tell us until like really recently when the new season was coming out
33:32
And the thing the thing that puzzles me about this, because I was watching for, you know, OK, when's the next season cycle
33:38
I never saw them post the season end date, but now the new season is starting like immediately
33:44
They didn't post the season end date. They just ended it. I know this because I was in it
33:49
I was literally playing Diablo 3 season 38 and it just stopped
33:58
I immediately got up, went to the bathroom, came back and my wife was like, oh yeah, they ended the season while you were in the bathroom
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I was like, wow, Blizzard, good job. You've got a camera and working and everything
34:10
They used to be pretty serious about giving you two weeks notice on a season switchover
34:15
And yeah, there was no notice on this. And they posted on Friday that the next season was starting the following Thursday
34:24
Yep. So yeah, that one's coming soon. But Diablo 3 seasons are fun
34:30
I wish we still had some more variety there. But it is what it is
34:36
At least I feel like Diablo versions were less egregious in a way
34:42
Diablo 4 seasons are very hit and miss, whereas I almost always enjoyed it
34:46
But, I mean, your mileage may vary. There were some D3 seasons I did not like. So, I'm not going to pretend they were all good
34:51
But regardless, that's happening this week. We should mention it. We did. And now we can talk
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about the Diablo 4 stuff because there's a bit more about that. First up
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Diablo 4's new season is starting on June 30th, which means And also, that is not that far in the future
35:09
Nope. Season 13, which launched with Lord of Hatred, was a very short season, about two months
35:18
And I'm kind of looking at the seasonal things that I still need to finish
35:22
And I'm like, oh my god, how am I going to do this? I need so much more favor to finish out these reliquaries
35:29
Yeah. And I'm kind of feeling over it, you know? I always play Diablo 4 for a certain period of time in the seasons
35:35
and I always get to a point where I'm just like, I just feel kind of done
35:40
Logging on has stopped being fun and I'm just going to stop. And unfortunately that usually happens
35:44
before I'm completely finished with the battle pass. Especially since I think in this case
35:50
the problem I'm having with it is that knowing that the season is so short
35:54
knowing that the season is about to end, really blunts my drive
35:58
Oh yeah. There's just, I managed to get Mephisto in Torment I think 10 or 11
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No, I think it's, it was actually 11. You have to kill him in 11. I think maybe it's just 10
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I don't know, but I managed to get him. Uh, so I got that done and I'm like
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yay, I got Mephisto. All I have is this one thing left and everything in it is like
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you know, one out of 100 completed one out of 75 completed
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I'm looking at the fact that I have a week to do it. And I'm like, you know what
36:29
I'll go back and play Diablo three. And, and that surprised me. Cause I was
36:32
I'm, I've been loving my, my barbarian i got it i i've the build that is so ridiculously hard to kill that it's just it has
36:41
literally been nerfed in the new patch uh they're like nope yeah you can't use this device anymore
36:46
this no too much and i got it i'm not complaining but i feel like when you look when you get to that
36:52
point and you you hit like you said you hit the end of the of the season you know the season's
36:57
got like a week to go and you're looking at all the stuff you've got to do and how hard it will
37:01
be to do it that does kind of deflate you yeah so but at the same time it's i either get these
37:07
rewards now or i never get them and it's diablo 4 changed the battle pass a while ago to where
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it's now instead of a traditional battle pass that you progress through it's these four reliquaries
37:19
and you have to complete each reliquary get everything in each reliquary to collect each
37:24
piece of the seasonal set and if you don complete every reliquary you don get that set so you have like four out of five pieces or whatever and it really frustrating because it is it is a fair
37:37
amount of work to go through all of that so it's like you pay and then you also have to play a whole
37:42
lot to get there and i'm like oh can i even finish this do i feel like finishing this i don't know
37:48
yeah i don't disagree but we should actually talk a little bit about what the season is not just you
37:53
complain about seasons um yeah yeah i guess we can do both we can do that uh but this season the the
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thing what they're doing here is that they're bringing pandemonium back again we've kind of had
38:05
a little bit of tie-ins with pandemonium from time to time we had the big robots wandering around
38:11
a few seasons ago and this time they're bringing in a mechanic that that's similar to things they've
38:18
done before it's kind of similar to the chaos thing they had going for a while this time it's
38:22
called pandemonium ruptures and the ruptures are kind of rifts with just calling them ruptures
38:28
instead of rifts because they've used that word like 16 000 times now uh but the the big deal
38:34
with these guys is they're bringing in you know not i don't know if you can call it a new the
38:40
their thing says it's a new family of monsters but to me they're the reapers are not a new family
38:44
of monsters they're just new to diablo but regardless if you remember the end of diablo 3
38:49
uh reaper of souls with the the corrupted angels or i don't know if corrupt is the right word joe
38:55
and i had a discussion about it on lore watch and you should go watch lore watch because you know
38:59
it's great you should watch it even though it's a podcast there's no pictures watch it with your
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ears yeah but regardless the reapers are coming back and there's a whole rift mechanic where you
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can you can find these things out in the world or you can find them inside various activities
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like the various nightmare dungeons. You can find them in the pit and the tower
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I am not... I was really excited. I don't know if they show up in the pit and the tower
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but it says they're most prevalent in hell tides. And in nightmare dungeons
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you can get special affix on your dungeon that will spawn a rift inside them
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And when you find a rift out in the world somewhere, you are basically killing things to close the rift as quickly as possible
39:49
And the more rifts you close, the more rewards you get. Yeah. And they've got three sizes for these
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The one that appears in Helltides and it says, you know, they can appear everywhere, but it's not clear what they mean by everywhere
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But that's the normal rupture. That's just the ruptures. Surging ruptures are the bigger ones that can appear in any place where you
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could see an event like for example a legion event uh the same places where those might happen
40:19
i think technically uh the specific one says it's a local event within a helltide so i don't know
40:26
if that's going to include legions i because it really sounds like legion events can take place
40:30
during a helltide and during a so if you have one inside a hotel helltide maybe maybe um but yeah
40:36
They specifically say normals are more prevalent in hell tides and the surging ruptures can
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spawn in place of any local events inside a hell tide. So it really feels like just in general, you want to do your hell tides
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Yeah. And meanwhile, the colossal rupture, which is the largest kind, you only find this in
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the Fields of Desecration world boss area, the one in Hawizar. The one that is essentially the one you go to sometimes because it's a different world
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boss than the other one but it's happening at the exact same time now this will be happening in there
41:12
as well so they're going to use it for two things not sure why but you know there it is i why not
41:18
yeah exactly why ask why not well i mean i feel like there's enough world boss places in azeroth
41:23
you could move it around and not just keep it in the fields of desecration but the field is the
41:28
last place we saw the same big robot things uh the only thing i can think is that um the seasonal
41:34
quest starts in Zarbenzat with hunting down a death cult. So maybe there is a specific tie
41:40
to Howazar narratively that means these colossal ruptures are only spawning in this boss arena
41:47
next door to Zarbenzat. Couldn't have done this in Skobos, guys, huh? We just got out of
41:53
Zarbenzat and now you're pulling us back in. Great. I really didn't. I'm like I didn't
41:57
see enough of that place. But yeah, no, it's cool that they're going to do that
42:01
Go ahead. And of course, the thing about the ruptures is they can summon
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a realm walker and that's kind of where the real the big big rewards seem to come from
42:10
yeah and the realm walkers were last seen you know going all the way back to wow what season
42:15
were the realm walkers last in it was a few seasons ago that's all i that's all i know it
42:19
was a little while they did appear also in howisar that's possibly another way to tie it all in
42:24
regardless yeah but they're different now they're like an actual world boss um and they will always
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spawn from the colossal ruptures in the world boss arena and sometimes from the surging ruptures in
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hell tides and if you kill the uh realm walker you can go to the death toll chamber which is a
42:43
just a one room dungeon that just seems like go in kill as much as you can survive get loot and
42:50
isn't that isn't that what we all want in diablo that's like the ultimate diablo fantasy kill things
42:57
get loot. That's why we're here. Yep. I mean, especially in Diablo
43:01
I mean, it's really much less story to get in the way. We've
43:07
complained before about the fact that seasons have paper-thin stories. I don't know
43:10
how the story is going to be in this one. We know
43:14
there is a little bit of a story, but it feels more like it's one of those times where the story
43:18
is more implied than an actual story, which, considering that some of
43:23
the best Diablo 4 seasons are ones where they don't try to make you do a lot of questing because the questing tends to be very like the the vampire one
43:33
the story was never what people cared about with that one no and it's like and it's remember the
43:39
season with the butcher the season of slaughter i know the whole story was like a crazy person
43:45
wants to use the butcher and he's gonna turn himself into the butcher if you don't stop him
43:49
by turning into the butcher what yeah i mean this was like a five minute story that was um
43:55
just hey how how do you like to be the butcher really okay and it was fine it was fun but it
44:01
was definitely uh speaking of short seasons it was very much a season that they just like look
44:06
we've got three months before the the expansion what do we do the butcher okay we're good we've
44:13
got something but we should also mention in addition to the fact you're going to have the
44:16
death toll chamber and all these ruptures they're also changing uh there's going to be a mythic
44:22
unique upgrade currency because they're changing the way uniques work and mythic uniques in
44:27
particular right now there are what they the current mythic uniques are a class of items
44:33
where there's specific ones like there's the grandfather which is your two-hand weapon option
44:38
um there's like one-handed swords there's one that's just for spirit walkers uh various
44:45
specific things that affect a build very much. For example, the Melted Heart of Selig is
44:53
extremely good for one spec of one class And that it It one of those things where you can really do interesting things with them but you can You not expected to build everything around them
45:06
They're unique and very specific. However, they're kind of difficult to get
45:12
And even if you are like, you know, if you're doing Torment 11 and 12
45:17
they're still not tremendously easy to get. And the drop rates on them are weird and funky
45:23
and if you try to create them at the blacksmith he's his thing is random like you're literally
45:29
spending the currency made to make them on a random chance and if you make them at the at the
45:34
jeweler that you're like this the weird runes she decides she needs to make these things you're like
45:40
are you kidding me you need six kek when where am i going to get six kek so you're telling me i have
45:45
to go run under city over and over again so they're changing that those will still exist uh the ones
45:51
you if you already have them they will not leave your inventory uh if you know in the future they
45:56
will still drop you will still be able to get them at least i believe so i've not seen anything
46:00
telling me that that's not true i hear liz breathing so if she the big the big difference
46:05
here is of course that mythic is now more of a quality level and any unique can spawn as a mythic
46:14
And that's just about quality. It's a max roll unique and the unique quality is now 30% more powerful on a mythic level
46:25
So your mythics are just going to be, there are still going to be those specific items that only spawn as mythics
46:34
But you could get any unique as a mythic. And you can craft them using the seasonal currency
46:40
Yeah, which basically takes any unique item that you currently have, if it's already at the proper level
46:46
and it will turn it to the mythic quality, making it better. So the thing about that is that allows people to basically use more mythic items
46:54
Because one of the things I know Liz was talking about on a couple podcasts ago
46:59
there's specs that basically you won't use any uniques on or mythic
47:04
You barely use any because you need to build it around a specific ability
47:10
Like, one of the spec I'm currently using is all about getting as much overpower and fortify as you can
47:16
Because there's specific paragon talents that add damage to overpower and fortify
47:24
And especially the more levels of those you have, like, I think I can get up to 12 fortify levels
47:33
And that's just all part of how to, you know, it's 12 overpower
47:37
But you get to 12 overpower and it'll increase your damage. And I'm using almost all just straight up ancient legendaries
47:44
I've got like two mythics and one unique. It can be, it can be really hard to equip unique sometimes if you just need those
47:54
you need those non-unique powers. So, but this is going to make your uniques more powerful and being able to get
48:01
them at mythic quality. So those uniques may become more appealing because they're
48:07
if you get a mythic version, they're going to be much more powerful. One of the downsides about crafting a mythic unique
48:15
though, is you can only equip one crafted mythic unique. You can equip as many mythic uniques as
48:21
you want, but you can only equip one crafted one. So you're going to want to choose that
48:27
You're going to want to pick that carefully. Which is the one that you absolutely need for
48:31
the spectre. If there's a specific mythic unique, like for example, the one I'm currently using is
48:36
the Melted Heart of Selig. That one has to be there. If that were the case in the new
48:42
if you had a unique that was in that role, you'd want to pop it up because this is the center of your build
48:48
This is where all the stuff you're going to do is coming from. However, I mean, you, you
48:53
the other thing is you don't have to necessarily craft them either. Yeah. I mean, you can find them. They'll drop
48:58
They'll drop just like mythic uniques do now, or just like mythics do now and uniques do now
49:03
You're going to have a chance when you get an ancestral, to get a mythic unique yeah so basically it's just uh it's gonna take a lot more time like there's a
49:15
lot of the stuff you need to get is basically pandemonium fragments to even craft one uh in
49:21
the resplendent caches where you get like you know shards and so forth there's gonna be a ton
49:26
of work on this uh which i think is doable but i i find myself wondering if the season will be
49:31
longer as a result i i mean it has longer than this last season the last season was like i mean
49:36
typically blizzard does three months for a season so um yeah but yeah we've had a couple of short
49:43
ones i suspect we're going to go back to long ones at some point we just have to see but another
49:50
good thing coming in here is the ability to customize uniques in more ways because one of
49:56
the things that lord of hatred added yeah lord of hatred changed how uniques work and it made the
50:02
stats on unique is completely random so it's like the unique power was set but all the stats were
50:08
random and they could be very bad for that unique not just that okay this isn't the perfectly optimal
50:16
amount of crit to uh overpower that i want you know this isn't completely optimal but like
50:22
as a necromancer i might get a unique that super buffed my blood skills and it would have you know
50:29
plus three to all darkness skills on it and it's like but actually happened twice on one item yeah
50:35
i mean it's not it's not actually uncommon because the stats are totally random completely
50:43
worse than that though the thing that's a problem there is that if that happens with a piece of just
50:48
ancient legendary gear you can go to the occultist and take the most egregious stat off and change it
50:55
to something else but not for unique not for unique you can't do that with uniques exactly so
51:01
that i that was that was rough it wouldn't be as bad if you could have altered the abilities on
51:07
uniques but there's no changing a unique so you got so many uniques that you either just threw in
51:14
the trash or you could go to the horadric cube and take three uniques and turn them into one
51:18
different version of the same unique and hope it didn't have the hope it didn't suck because
51:24
You might have three terrible versions and then just get a more terrible version
51:29
And you keep doing this until you. Yeah. The other thing is that like two specs can have the exact same weapon need, except for one thing
51:39
Like if you're using certain abilities, maximum life on a weapon is usually the best thing ever
51:46
It's like, yeah, good. It helps me. It'll keep me alive longer. It's death to the spec I have
51:52
because the item I'm using transforms all health damage to damage to your primary resort
51:59
And if the more maximum life you have, the less reduction of damage you get
52:04
But if you don't have any maximum life or as little as you could possibly have
52:08
then you're practically unkillable. Now that's ridiculous, but that's how they designed it
52:13
I didn't build this. Yeah, uniques have just been weird. Yeah, it's just been a lot of weirdness
52:18
You can't do what you need to do to get your stuff around. So now you can
52:22
In Season 14 which is Patch 3 Uniques will go back to having some fixed stats Two of the stats on uniques will be fixed So there a little more consistency there
52:35
And you'll also be able to go to the occultist and change a stat
52:41
So you both have some consistency with what uniques are going to be like and what kind of stats they'll have
52:48
And also the ability to modify one of those stats if it comes and it just doesn't roll well
52:53
as well as the chance of getting a mythic unique, which is going to max roll as well as having that 30% bonus to its unique power
53:02
So I think this is a good change overall. This is good
53:06
Uniques are going to be better and more powerful. And particularly if you're running a build that favors uniques
53:14
this is going to be, this is going to be nutso if you can get a lot of mythic unique
53:17
because it's just the, the question is how prevalent will these be to drop
53:22
And we'll see. Yeah. I mean, if drops are almost impossible and crafted are the way to go, then the fact you can only use one crafted is going to be a problem
53:31
But even so, even so, if you can, you know, pick one really strong crafted one, then yeah, that might be enough to kill it
53:40
Supported with normal legendary. I think the best part of this whole thing is the change where you can actually adjust their stats because that has been the biggest problem this entire time
53:51
However, I feel like I'm just going to repeat myself. Yeah, exactly
53:58
We also should mention quickly they're going to bring in some Overwatch themed skins for Diablo 4
54:05
Yeah, there's an Overwatch collab, so you will be able to buy, of course
54:09
buy Overwatch skins for your Diablo heroes. And also there will be a free reliquary from which you can pick up some Overwatch rewards
54:19
one of which I think is really interesting. This is a reward type that we've never seen before
54:27
You will be able to get an Overwatch-themed die. So up to this point
54:33
dies have just been something you had. You would go to transmog your gear
54:38
and you would have a selection of dies and you just had them. You didn't buy them. You didn't collect them
54:42
But this will be a specific die color that is only available in the Reliquary
54:48
I don't know what color it is I would assume maybe a white, black, and orange
54:53
kind of the logo colors or maybe the colors of maybe they'll have the colors of
54:59
just the Overwatch squad or whatever, I don't know like Mercy and all that
55:04
no idea but yes, that's just we're going to see but it's definitely an interesting reward
55:13
and because of that alone I need it, I need it I don't even care if it's a terrible color
55:19
What if one day I want that terrible color? I need to have it
55:23
Especially since, you know, some of the color combinations for dyes in Diablo 4
55:29
Are already eye searing. They're already kind of, there are some extreme color combinations
55:35
Or like, for example, they're just like, there's four colors supposedly in this, but you're only going to see two
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Like the other two are basically like just on some trim somewhere. You're barely going to notice them
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So some of them are better than others in that regard. But yeah, it can be hard to match colors of items
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Those. So I, I'm just hoping this is them trying something out
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And then later on, they'll put more dyes on the thing, but then they'll just probably make them all, you know, sell them to us
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And I'm going to lose my mind. Please don't sell me dyes. Yeah. It's like, is this the first step to being like pay for dyes
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I, I hope not, but we're going to find out. But at this point, I have to turn to Liz and say, hey, Liz, we need to do the site news because we're actually over time
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Yeah, I know. That's because if you get us started talking about Translog, you get us started talking about Diablo, we just keep going
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I behaved. I let you guys go. I know. You're sitting there having a nice evening, drinking plenty of water, and neither of us are doing it
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And pistachio cake. Oh, see, we are missing out. We're missing out over here
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all for being here thank you all for your support and uh yeah thanks for listening folks
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And now we kind of have to go. So unlike usual, where I remember in time to get Liz to do that
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and then we can have a little bit more show. We had a lot of Diablo going
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We did. And a fair amount of WoW as well. That's a significant WoW
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We just had a lot of news this week. And next week we'll probably have more news because we're going to have Diablo
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We're going to have the WoW PTRs up. So who knows? Who knows
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More adventure. We're feasting famine here. Yeah, for now in August, a fair amount's gonna happen
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So thank you to Liz and Joe for being here and making it so that it's not just me
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talking about Tilosaurus all day. Thank you to everyone who listens for allowing me occasionally to talk about
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Tilosaurus, but also talk about my obsession with Diablo specs right now. Seriously, why are
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summons builds so strong? Why? It's weird. It is weird to be not doing almost
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nothing but summoning my grandparents to come beat people up over and over again. We can talk about charms next week
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because that's the reason why. Yes, next week we will be talking about it. But thank you
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guys uh this has been the blizzard witch podcast uh and we'll be back next week
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