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hello everybody and welcome to the Blizzard watch podcast now with added Corey actually Cory's here most of the
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time now I think at this point you've been bumped up to like official cast member we would have and introducing
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Corey Taylor at the end of the you know so Cory say hi to Cory everybody he's here a lot um my and of credit yes also
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with us uh who are always here uh Liz Harper and Joe Perez who are really
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awesome uh and also me Matt but you don't care about that let's move on to talking about patreon stuff Liz so hello
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docomo and uh that's it thanks thank you Liz uh okay we're gonna go on to them
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their top stories and stuff that we try and talk about uh right now there's a fair bit of stuff going on it's a it's
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interesting December for for blizzard in general first off modern wow just put
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out patch 11.0.3 which is the siren Isle patch it feels Joe I want to ask your opinion on
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this since you are a more technically oriented person than I am does it not
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feel like a little bold to release a patch the week before Christmas uh yes
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and or no so it depends so it's better it's better to release it the week
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before so you have a week before people are off to take of any technical issues
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uh because your options are you release it the week before or you release it the week after New Year's because those
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generally are like blackout periods for uh changes usually as far as most agile
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uh development houses go so honestly it's not a major P it is it I shouldn't
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call it that it is a large patch in terms of what it's doing there's a lot but they're not releasing a new instance
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they're not releasing uh things that are theoretically going to break the game in
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a massive way and I'm air quoting that because I don't think I've seen anything really go sideways today um but I could
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be wrong uh and the aisles the siren Isles do seem to be working as planned
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um with the the only thing I saw that going sideways was a little bit of people upset about the only flavor of
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blue gem you can get is a healing one yeah and that's because and that's I think By Design too I think it's to
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cover the gamut of options so that everybody has something because and we can talk about this as content wise goes
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one of the largest complaints that the Onyx annulet had when we did that patch
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uh was that healers were just like eh why why do I need this why do I care there's nothing for me here or if you
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were a certain class in Spec I need this specific Gem and this specific gem only and this is the only one I will ever use
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uh so I can kind of understand them doing it in a way that's like we to give something for everybody so there's a
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little something for everybody it's fine but people going be people are going to be upset no matter what you do so yeah
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but technically there's nothing in it for me me personally I must have it yeah
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yeah but technically speaking proper choices to release it this week and today was was relatively smooth and uh
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so you know good job uh and a good job in the release although I will say it has and I got to play through at least
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the initial Quest thing to to get me all the stuff and do the events and things like that have you guys gone through it
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yet today or no I have not yet not me okay I'll be interested to hear bunch of
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slackers no it's okay I mean life happens uh I just happen to to make it a
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point to try to get it done before the uh the podcast just in case yeah but I'm going to be curious to hear your
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thoughts on it because my initial thought is it feels a little bit like
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maybe a hair larger than the the the obsidian aisle
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that we're that we did with uh the in Dragon flight um and it is I keep wanting to say I keep wanting to say
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forgotten uh Forgotten Realms and that's not it I think it was the for reach forbidden reach forbidden reach I I
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think and and it's all and it it was it certainly has some shades of it uh
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there's a tomb you can go into that you have to do part of the quest scene in and um the interest thing for me though
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is the story implications which I'm looking forward to talking about on lat with Matt because there's a lot of stuff
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tying uh this particular one and it is it is an instanced uh Island I should
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say uh you can't just fly to it naturally um you have to get to it via the the Airship uh so you can get there
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but I'm really curious what Matt's going to think about it and what what I've
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seen there when we when he gets through it but otherwise it feels very much like
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that same instance or that same patch right it feels very similar to I'm going
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to go to this island I'm going to earn a ring I'm going to keep earning a ring I'm going to level up the ring and uh I
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may do some stuff but it just has a little bit of story sprinkled into it so we shall see don't forget that in a
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patch and a half they'll Nerf the ring because the ring is stayed too current and too strong and no one's replacing the ring they just H to buff the ring
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yeah for right now but in a patch and a half when we're in the middle of gwick G
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blow's on the pleasure Palace yeah I mean maybe uh we'll see how that that sort of uh pans out I guess uh but it
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did like and this is Liz you can you can talk here I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut you off but yeah no I we're both we
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there is so much to say um but now I've lost it carry on I was going to say like
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the the ring is is a decent upgrade for most people just on ey level alone uh it's a 63 9 ring that can be fully
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upgraded to 658 um they say that they want to make the ring a clear choice for the remain
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year of season 1 uh and as well as keeping it relevant into season 2 uh and
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then have it be replaced uh where it should compete with heroic raid gear and be replaced by drops from Mythic raid
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and high Mythic plus Dungeons and I think that's fine because if they're
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scaling it knowing what the next tier and next season's going to be then it's fine right it has has a chance to be
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okay um and with a lot of the the gems being buffed from where they were
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severely nerfed before I would say that they are pleasantly usable for the most part right now um and then hopefully
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they will fall off it will fall off because a lot of it is uh seems to be
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capped effects so yeah we're we're pretty okay at least in my opinion we'll see okay I think we should talk possibly
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about those Mythic plus Nerfs there Liz had something I think okay I
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do want to point out something in this patch that with everything else I had
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totally forgotten about until I was scrolling through Blizzard's you know little preview blog that they post
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whenever the patch is new and it is uh crossfaction group queuing yes that you
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can now one of the big annoyances with crossfaction was that okay you can group
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up and do a thing cross it's like you you couldn't do time walking cross
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faction because time walking is a cued activity even if you had a full group
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you could not cue for anything so that put time walking off that put a lot of special events you just couldn't do them
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because even if you made a full group it didn't allow queuing now it will so if
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you have a full group you can go and cross faction whoever you want to bring you can go and do time walking the only
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restriction is the group needs to be full you cannot pull an extra person into a cross realm group from lfg but I
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think that's really cool one more way to break down those faction barriers and let you play with your friends no matter
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where they are it's great not perfect but better I would I would I'm looking forward to full functionality where you
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can just have some randos as well and maybe we'll eventually get there but yeah it's it's definitely an improvement
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it's a step step in the right direction tiny big steps you guys already mentioned the the the ring getting its
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buff right yeah big buff did you talk about exactly what the buff is besides the eye level and that stuff yes I
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already did okay you covered all that all right I I heard you talking just then Liz then you stopped yourself so I don't know what you were saying I mean
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it's a it's a big buff blizzard was a little vague about exactly what they were buffing except the eye level so I
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mean if it's buffed beyond that the gems are a little play with it and see well the gems are a little more powerful than
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they were on the p as well they're not exceedingly powerful but they raise they raise the healing and damage and and
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proc effects of some of them to put them more in line with uh current tier uh Trinkets and or ring procs so it makes
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more sense uh and it's a power buff because instead of having one proc
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effect on on like a trinket you're getting two or three effects on a ring
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so it's effectively you know multiplying the number of procs or or or Stat Buffs that you can you can get off of so
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that's that's really where the buff was nothing nothing too crazy all right then we will now talk about the Mythic plus
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Nerfs Joe talk the Mythic plus Nerfs a lot of them and uh man I am happy to see
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these Nerfs woo uh Eric Cara city of echos uh kikal the Harvester the poison
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uh periodic damage is being reduced by 10% and city of threads order uh CCS vix
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and I'm probably pronouncing that wrong don't even care uh subject Shadow damage is reduced by 20% uh and Royal Venom
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shell Venom spray periodic damage is reduced by 25% those alone are massive
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quality of life improvements for anybody running those dungeons uh it's almost like blizzard finally looked at it and
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said oh yeah not every healer can deal with poison we should probably do something about that uh and they did so
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thank you um Grim Bal the uh Twilight frame renders uh shadowflame Slash got
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nerfed as well by 25% Molton giant got their fist damage reduced by 21 and the
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cool down increased uh mfil Guardians in MTI a scythe protected the Miss damage
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buff reduced to 2% down from 3% doesn't sound like a lot but it does make a difference especially in timing it yeah
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because it Stacks too doesn't it it does yeah so you instead of having like three stack you have three of them stacked
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instead of being 9% it'll be 6% which is massive right uh then you have iron the
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iron tied curse blade in Siege baralis uh with Slash damage vulnerability reduced to 10% was 15% massive for
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healers that 5% makes a big difference uh in how quick you have to be on your reaction time and then Stone Vault
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everybody's favorite Mythic plus key uh gets a bunch of wonderful little things
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uh so you have the void bound despoiler Shadow claw cast time increased to 2.5
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seconds up from 1 second thank you for that uh and the cool down has been increased on that as well the curse
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heart Invader void infection periodic damage reduced by 25% massive quality of life
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Improvement and then Master machinist the ingenious Hammer damage reduced by
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20% uh basically what it's doing is it's taking a lot of the stress stressors
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away from things that required a lot of healing and I'm okay with that healing
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is good um and I have no problem with that uh but it's I have no problem with
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being difficult difficult is fine but there are certain things and certain abilities that would Cascade and if you
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could get a certain mix of them as a Healer you just felt like you you
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couldn't do anything like if your tank didn't have a cool down or the individuals didn't have a personal cool
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down they were dying uh this takes a little bit of that strain away and makes them a little more viable which should
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mean it should be a little less difficult finding healers to do higher Keys cuz let me tell you trying to find
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healers to do tens and highers uh is a pain and then being a Healer trying to do those oh man you are scrutinized wheo
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so this should help but yeah good good quality of life improvements all around um and then I think there's also changes
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to uh the uh gilded crests uh even if
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you don't time a 10 you still get crests now which is fantastic and I think if I
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think that extends down to eights um but also again just quality of life
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improvements it's like oh you you you didn't get what you needed out of this uh here's a little something to for all
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the pain that happened to you along the way cuz sometimes it can be a pain uh so yeah like very encourage people to not
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drop yes that can be finished that was the thing that was happening a lot too um for those of you that don't know and
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I I can let Corey talk about this a little bit too cuz you know Cory hasn't talked enough yet um it was not uncommon for people to
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just ditch out on a a Mythic plus key after a certain number of wipes uh
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instead of just finishing the key essentially bricking someone's key and
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it that is awful when it happens to you it it's always better to just finish the
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key than not and at least now it's giving people an incentive to stick around and finish the key even if you
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don't time it yeah and it wasn't even just a certain number of wipes sometimes one bad thing could happen and all of a
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sudden your easy run turned into like a we'll probably do it on time but it's going to you're gonna have to pay a little more attention they would just
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disappear yeah which is super fun and we all love it and it makes everyone's night better yeah not frustrating at all
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I don't think he meant that what but hopefully it was it the
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the whole plugging situation the season has been pretty rough uh and hopefully this makes it better for people who are
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trying to just you know get some runs in and have some fun and play some dungeons yeah and I think that's one of the the
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other things too is like improving that sort of the grouping feature uh it's
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it's definitely needed because pugging has been rough this season we've been talking about it in Guild a lot um so we
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have a lot of uh folks that switch between healing and DPS or healing and tank and whatever uh and occasionally
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when we get a group together in Guild we will have to we we'll have to bring a pubby along with us because we'll have
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four people uh we don't want to just not do anything uh so we'll pick up a a pug
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and the amount of times we've had a phenomenal pug I can count on a single hand this season most of the time it's a
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lot of people being like well you we had three deaths I'm out of here or this didn't go perfectly smoothly even though
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we can sell time and I'm out of here or uh in one point we had somebody get so
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aggravated at something we still don't even know what pull a bunch of stuffff
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intentionally wipe the group and then drop group like it's it's been a weird season hopefully this encourages better
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Behavior I hope so too uh I guess people can they're going to be able to fly
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somewhere but unfortunately the article seems to be taking me back to the Cersei circlet it's a it's a siren Isles you
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cannot fly on the siren Isles right now you will but you're going to be able to eventually currently there is a quest
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item that you get that lets you double jump with Goblin rocket boosters to your back and glide it's nothing special we
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we I think we've talked about this before okay well the last thing I to mention from Modern wow Liz I mean we
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should talk a little about the flying thing because yeah you go there and it's weird you can't fly but um I believe
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it's going to take six weeks as you upgrade your ring do you know if I have that right Joe that you will eventually
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be able to around the aisle I believe it's going to be six weeks yes so it's
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like uh six weeks kind of a long time I don't know by the end of six weeks I may
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be beyond the end of my attention span for this but but they're also not it's not like you're grinding in six weeks
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it's just you got to do the weekly content on the island which improves your range so you're not going out of your way too much yeah so it shouldn't
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be that bad we've certainly had worse grinds to earn flying uh but yes we're
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we're back to the no flying on launch thing which it it feels bad on the aisle but it's not as bad as it felt on other
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places so I'll I'll allow it and last one because I really wanted to read this thing that was written here I hope you
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like grinding currency because you will need lots of the new flame bless iron
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currency so I don't feel like we really need to talk too much about this it's a new currency I believe it's a siren is
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currency and you will need grind for it because you want to buy things with it you you get it for doing literally anything on the aisle yeah so go but I
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think things like mounts are like 10,000 flame touched iron so it's it's it's a
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lot and I don't have a feel yet for how much drops it's like okay it's I would
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log in and check but I don't I don't want the game audio to come through the recording uh but I got a fa tell you
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this much normal enemies drop up to five and the elite enemies can drop up to 25
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and then there's 16 rare mobs that can spawn and each of them drops 100 50 yeah
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it's it's not just the mob it's treasure chests it's events it's the quests and
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stuff like that that happened to yeah I'm just giving you a baseline so you can understand if you kill every rare mob on the island you're gonna make like
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15 like like close to 2,000 uh iron oh there is something that I think might
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actually be broken right now too by the way um and I just uh this will probably get hot fixed and they'll probably hot
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fix it while we're we're doing this if anything at least for me I was not getting credit for the quest of
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participating in an event on the aisle um and there are things that you can do to like use some of that uh flame bless
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iron and you can use it to activate uh three different uh events that occur on
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the island that you go through and you basically kill a a mini boss and get rewards for it one of them is actually
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required for you to go get uh a gemstone for your ring um but like you can
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participate and I don't know if everybody had this experience but I definitely did I participated in
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multiple of them and did not get credit for the quest to participate in uh a two
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events on the island so hopefully that gets fixed it did register one of them it just didn't register two of them and
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it doesn't specify that you can only do one a day because it's it marked as a blue Quest so we'll
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see uh but just something to to throw out there that it it seems to to not be functioning correctly or needs
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clarification one or the other okay uh now we're going to talk about Diablo because I like Diablo and also
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because it's the next upop in the list um slay ride to Hell event is live um
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it's got a kind of okay I guess response to it um I myself I've been I've been
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playing a bit of D4 lately and I have not done this yet I have not done this yet and I'm really disappointed in
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myself because there's there's a lot of treasure goblins and you see treasure goblins are my thing I mean I just love
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them I love I love them but I love them dead and I want to make them dead by any
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means necessary so yeah I I definitely want to go killing a bunch of treasure goblins so I'm already super excited uh
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when's Mother's blessing because it's mentioned in the article when is that starting time same time Mother's blessing and uh slay ride to hell both
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run for the same time from December 17th to January 2nd so you got the holiday
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season to go and slave ride to hell obvious I accept this this is my my
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calling there's a there's somebody inside internal dibl teams that's so happy that they got this name sorted out
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to make this P jingle bell jingle bell jingle bell death yeah there's a lot going on here a
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lot of stuff you can get it's just it is I have I think I'm on record on the site even as as saying that they treasure
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goblins everywhere all the time yeah so oh you are just had me
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dying yeah oh yes you are oh here it is the return of always be hitting goblins
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so yeah that's that was back in Diablo I but I haven't changed my position for Diablo 4 if you see a treasure Goblin
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you must hit it when you see a goblin you must hit it yeah exactly let me myvo hat yeah I
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gotta get my dvo hat somewhere here but yeah so that's happening and I'm I also
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tentatively positive about it yeah one of the really interesting things about this event is that okay there supposed
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to be more goblins which great great we all agree more goblins great even though past Diablo events where there were
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supposed to be more goblins I have like logged on and there seem to be less goblins so I hope they figured out they
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were always like locked inside the nightmare Dungeons and who plays Nightmare I I I hope they figured out
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how to make more goblins it's like you add yeah like I I want you to look at the at the number very carefully if
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there's a circle then line then Circle no it needs to be an X we need an X
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there like amount of goblins made more by multiplication do not divide the
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goblin I'll divide the goblin that's my job I will be doing the goblin division
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you should be adding or multiplying levels of goblin I hope this is you know I hope this is clear this is call
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consider this my PSAT Path of Exile put treasure goblins in so the interesting thing about this
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the rewards are there several tiers of rewards and they're based on global
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Goblin kills so not just you don't just have to go out and slay a 100 treasure
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Goblins the everyone everyone needs to slay a certain number of treasure goblins to unlock this reward and then
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anyone can log on and claim it so theoretically as long as other people are doing the hard work of killing
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treasure goblins you could just log on and collect you're welcome guys you're welcome guys so tier one is 5 million
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treasure goblins and think I can do this I'm confident I
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think by tier five tier five is the maximum tier that is 40 million treasure goblins killed so we're we're going to
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see can the Diablo player base kill 40 million treasure goblins over the next
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two weeks I think you guys question I think you guys can pick up five million treasure goblins I'll get the rest don't
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worry just just K five no seriously though this is a lot of goblins to yes
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it's so many so that again is why I really hope they figured out more goblins more more more yes or if you do
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have more goblins put them Just everywhere don't put them inside an instance put them everywhere we would
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just want them to be everywhere that's what we're asking for uh so and the rewards are also really cool and there's
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like a reindeer or a reindeer armor thing going on here I think it must be
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Mount armor that you just put like reindeer on whatever you're writing yeah Harvest mayor Bing yeah it it's it's
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armor for your amount you just stick yes that's from just in case 40 million goblins so make sure you kill a lot of
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goblets no it's actually on a couple other versions it's I think you can get up to yeah it's right there yeah yeah
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it's tier five 40 million goblins it's also tier four so that's the that's a trophy trophy yeah yeah so it's you've
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got the fruit of the Harvest Mount trophy I wonder if I typoed this no fruit of the Harvest Mount trophy then
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the Harvest Mar's totem Mount trophy then the Harvest May's Bing Mount armor
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at tier five that's completely easy to keep track of next year guys please make the Bing have a big red
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nose it can be just blood dripping off of it that's fine because it's oh yeah that's that's very that' be perfect yeah
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yeah well it's like I I ow this idea to like a weird horror I once was like somebody did their own comic for Diablo
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like how to do holidays in Diablo and it was just like you know there Rudolph the redse Reindeer because his nose is covered in blood so I steal that idea
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from whoever did it I don't remember but yeah in addition to this which is in of itself it's just touching warming the
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cogos of my heart um there's also this WOW D4 crossover uh with freebies if you
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own both games is this this is what you said here if yes so if you own vessel of
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hatred oh my gosh I need to double check this because the the s was down earlier when I was trying to I was trying to do
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the thing uh but yes I believe it is if you own the war within and vessel of
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hatred you can pick up these free goodies that will be delivered by or
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possibly before January 13th it's going to be one of those things that you pick up in your gifts tab on Battlenet so I
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think it was you had until the 13th to have purchased both so and then rewards
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be sent out after that but again the the news site is down so I can't 100% confirm but I feel like that's what I
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read the first time I saw that yeah and the things you'll be getting are I'm going to read them them out because for
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diao 4 there's the Invincible bundle which is the Invincible aspect which is basically just an invincible uh the bard
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of undying loyalty um I don't know what that is actually I don't remember I just was just looking at it too uh the
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domination Helm kind of you know what that is uh and echo of frost morning which is like you stick frost on the
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side of your mountain right around going look I got frost uh it's kind of nuts but yeah that that stuff's there so now
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it will be free uh if you own both remember you gotta own vessel of hatred you think and World of Warcraft
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probably of hatred and the war within so if you're up to dat on your blizzard titles there you go and in wow you're
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going to get Cosmetics from the launch event so you remember the launch event for the war within so it's going to be
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the B Soul Stone emnity bundle uh eternity cloak enity Hood the livestock
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Locka bar axe which is the axe that the cow people used uh nightmare Banner uh
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the 12 string guitar warts fighting leg warts haunted leg warts last leg toome
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of town portal uh which I still have that thing so yay uh the amalgam of Rage
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Mount and you guys remember the amalg which is just terrifying terrifying yes so that's what you're getting in wow so
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you know Wow's getting more stuff but wow has more stuff to give you but the
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but the other thing is if you got all the rewards during the Diablo 4 launch
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event I I don't think there's anything new here I think it's just yeah it
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doesn't appear to be yeah all the stuff I got already yeah and for that matter the Invincible bundle you know it's if
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you've already bought that bundle yeah okay you know it's just the same stuff
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uh so so yeah still go ahead Al also if you wanted to you know get these things
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you currently both the war within and uh vessel of hatred are on sale because
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it's the holidays and we celebrate them by buying things yeah pretty much that is what we do in this capitalist uh but
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also now that we've talked about all that we can move on to talking about Hearthstone because I like again I gotta
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read this to you Battlegrounds are weird y'all sorry you
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I'm making it Weir you're not supposed to read my random notes your random notes are the best part oh my God but
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you know we have the best Strat for Elementals is to lever to tier two and then stop and cycle Ballers forever um
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so there's a a balance patch here I'm gonna let Liz and possibly Corey talk about it what's going on in Hearthstone
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uh well this is Hearthstone Battlegrounds which is my that's my favorite way to play Hearthstone and
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since since the latest Battleground season launched I don't know it's just felt a little weird like usually a new
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Battleground season launches and I can jump in and play and it's fine it's a little different it's fun but there were
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so many changes with this Battleground season so many minions rotated out so many new minions a lot of Minion
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families have really different play styles quillo are totally different uh
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murlocs are totally different mechs are maybe the only one that are kind of similar where they were demons are a
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little similar to where they were but there was a lot of change happening and
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one of the things I think a lot of people noticed was the Elementals
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because Elementals have already always had kind of a Vibe where you play more Elementals and playing Elementals will
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buff your Elementals or buff Elementals in the store so you just the goal is always be playing Elementals kind of
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like the treasure Goblin thing except the new goal had turned into if you're
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if you got an elemental family you level to tier two you start out in tier one
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you level to tier two and then you stop usually you're trying to level to tier six because that's where all the biggest
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baddest minions are but instead of doing that you would hit tier two and you would stop because that's where you get
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like all of the buff minions so you can get there are a couple of minions called Ballers which there's one that increases
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all of your minions health and there's one that increases all of your minions uh a tank when you sell them so you just
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buy it you sell it buy it sell it buy it sell it and the thing is by only leveling to tier two you have a higher
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chance to get more of those because you you don't have access to the higher
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level stuff so this gives you access to all of these puny Little M mobs but they
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they buff themselves so it was a really it's a really boring strategy it's like
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I'm going to level to tier two and then I'm just going to refresh until I see this mob and I'm going to buy it and I'm
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going to keep doing that until I win the game because that sometimes that's how
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Works um so yeah today Hearthstone rolled out a huge balance patch has
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stuff for constru constructed but it also has a massive number of changes to
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Battlegrounds a lot of Buffs and Nerfs for hero Powers it's adjusted all of the
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armor values for tons and tons of Heroes I'm not sure if it's all heroes but lots of them and lots of Minion changes so I
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am eager to jump back in now that the patch has rolled out and see how it plays because I have not gotten used to
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the new Battleground meta it's it's so different than it was last season and I
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mean that's that's fun that's refreshing but it's like wow I am I am I can't
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figure this out probably because I I keep trying to you know level up to tier six and that was not always the best
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strategy when I should have just stopped given up continued buying same mobs over
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and over and but I'm looking forward to seeing how it shakes out with all of these so many changes yes that's all
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Cory you got anything to say on this one or do you want to move on to the Heroes of the Storm patch I I just love that the minion that caused all the problem
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was the baller yeah I there are two of them there were two of them with different names but they're both
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something baller uh so yeah yeah wow I hope I am not missing that
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because that would be that would just be embarrassing I'm pretty sure that's what they are I'm pretty sure that's what they are if not someone will comment I
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I'm sure they will if not just you know use your imagination and insert the correct minion name all right uh Corey
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here's a storm patch uh I'm looking at it now because it's actually up on the site again or at least it was for a second so yeah there's a lot of changes
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in this patch there's a lot of changes there's a lot of like little stuff in there uh just kind of like bug fixes but
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there's a few reworks imperius gets a little rework on one of his level 10 that just changes the damage um you know
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there's a little rework to the poly bomb on medivh um so there a lots of little
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stuff uh but there is a new custom game mode that they just kind of snuck in there for the season called snowb snow
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braw which has you collecting presents and snowballs and launching snowballs
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that you're enemies and summoning giant snow Elementals to push down lanes for you which is fun and more work than we
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were kind of expecting in a patch bring it back full time blizzard please it's I
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we've been getting about a patch per month on Heroes of the Storm yeah and a lot of balance a lot of balance patches
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and stuff like that too like it's it's starting to Fe like it's giving me hope and I know Cory's feeling the same thing
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because like every time they they release one I'm just like maybe maybe maybe now maybe we're going to get an announcement maybe they're maybe they're
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going maybe Hots is back on the menu like the amount of hours I spent in that
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game oh man oh man so many the hopium is so real you know that what's really weird
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is that Heroes was the only game of its type the only MOA that I actually really liked playing I can't get into like the
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other ones and I mean some of them are very good and I'm not saying they're not I just it it's a little harder to get
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into and for whatever reason Heroes of storm was super easy to get well part part of it is because it did the one
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thing that other mobas were not willing to do which was take away the shop and
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you don't have to worry about building specific things and doing like specific
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item builds and then worrying about your gold and do you have enough resources to trade in for it you leveled up you
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picked a talent and that you were good to go like you picked a build and and you just had your talent so it took took
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away a lot of the the paralyzation of choice that a lot of mobas find players in uh and especially like and and I was
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thinking about this the other day and and because I still play League of Legends I play aam because I have fun
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with it it's it's just my it's my I do it once and and just kind of like once a night or or once every couple days just
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to just to feel alive I need that salt in my life um but you the builds and
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changes like you always have to buy or figure out what items are best for the composition you are playing with and
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against and that matters even more in a regular game whereas in Heroes of the Storm you didn't have that stress it's
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what's the best Ultimate which Talent works the best for what I want to do right now and then you just went and you
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had fun and you just it was all about the engagement it was about the Battle it was about the actual like getting in
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there and mixing it up as quick as possible not I'm going to mix it up and
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then I have to go back and make sure that I adjust my build Maybe I sell these items and get these other ones cuz these other ones will work better like
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it just it made it a lot more accessible and I cannot that cannot be overstated
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and it also shows that you know the the whole blizzard thing of like looking at a game out there in the world and then
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taking it down to just like the best parts of it is why they were successful yeah it's that was the blizzard formula
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right you they did it with they did it with Wow with MMOs at at the time and they still continue to do that to a
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certain extent um they did it with Heroes of the Storm I mean they did it with
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rtss uh they they did it with Diablo to a maybe a different extreme um because
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they've made we've talked about this before Diablo 4 is all the best parts of Diablo II plus some and I think we can I
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think we've all pretty much come to that same conclusion so like they're really good at distilling things down once they
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know what they're looking for so my two cense and here's the I think deserves
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its time to come back and Shine the other thing that I think would be really cool about it is imagine if they made it available on consoles H it could work I
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think I think that the interface works perfectly with a controller it it there
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were a couple Heroes who could get the uh get enough extra action buttons that things got tougher but I I think they
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could figure something out with it I think I and this is just Pie in the Sky cuz like I think that would breed
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Breathe new life into that type of game especially if it was on Game Pass you
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throw it on Game Pass you throw you throw like a you do what League of Legends used to do or RI used to do with
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the um Prime gaming capsules where yep get a skin here you go you oh you have
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the game pass here's a skin uh who's your favorite hero here it's going to be this one this month because we're going
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to we're going to give you something neat that's going to make you want to play this one uh I mean and it was just
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a lot of fun like I still remember uh what why can't I think of his name the prime eval
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uh Asus Prime Evil asan asan the Lesser evil but like
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the whole monstar Space Jam skin that he got was my favorite thing that had ever
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been done in any MOA ever it's like yep even this minions I summon have like
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basketball jerseys and they're going to go like dribble balls at you cuz why not let's just go for it and that was just a
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response to the the fan memes around of like yeah him hitting the three-pointers from far away it it's still it it
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remains one of my favorite blizzard games that I don't think got nearly enough love so shout the community has rallied around a singular figure in
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terms of the The Heroes of the Storm updates which are still happening and obviously this may or may not be true we
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don't know what the internals look like but they're calling uh it's a hot janitor who just keeps putting out the
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good work and updating things some guy just sneaking in every night Miss
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Mission Impossible style hanging from the ceiling puts a disc puts a thumb drive in it's like yeah yes the new
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patch now away but um since we've talked about that we've got um solid 10 15 minutes
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left so let's talk a little bit about the blizzard 2024 year in review because
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in addition to the 4.5 billion spiders killed which is in and of itself was like wow that's an actual thing they
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figured out uh I like finding out that there are 1.7 trillion demons killed in
40:24
Diablo I 1.7 trillion that sounds like a a damage number from
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the end of Diablo I it's the the thing is it's what else
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is there to do in Diablo all you're doing every time you log on is killing demons that is the entire game like in
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World of Warcraft you know sometimes you're killing n rubian sometimes you're killing other things and in Diablo it's
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like it's like a solid 90% demons there's that's that's your goal every
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time you log on kill demons yep I'm not arguing I just think it's hilarious I just think the idea of like having to be
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the person to count that um one demon two demons luckily we wrote it into the
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software so we didn't have to worry but um in addition to that one there's also been 480 million player
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deaths which I can attest to I I've died probably at least a million times so if
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there's another 480 people playing at my level yeah yeah there you go there's the kill there's the deaths um I'm not sure
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this looks to be like they have wow with the nerubian thing then they've got what I'm pretty sure is uh it's Rumble
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Warcraft Rumble yep 400 million scaran family minis played and I love the
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little scaran mini next to the uh thing which is this little ancient he just looks so grumpy and so cute and sleepy
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he looks so tired he's like I'm just trying to get rest set off my la yes you
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Undead people specifically my lawn is my
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friends I like those guys they're tiny but they're friendly so yeah I I'm I'm
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I'm really fond of that I I didn't pick up Warcraft Rumble as a game just because I don't really do a ton of
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mobile games and fory frankly Diablo Immortal was the only one I was really enjoying now yeah now have it's on PC
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yeah it sure is okay Corey you want to say what that means before we move on oh yeah it's just on PC now you can you can
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download it install it on your computer and it's got a couple quality of life updates and it's free it sounded
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sarcastic when you said it like it sure is I was like what okay whatever man oh I was I was going for agreeable but okay
42:41
here's got four billion murlocs played in Battlegrounds um not sure why so many
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murlocs but you know yeah I mean in in Battlegrounds you know you have minion
42:52
families and so you're playing this this type of Minion or that type of when you
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you know you pick a a family to use you're that's that's what you're playing you're playing that is your War band so
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if you play one morl one murlock you're going to play
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another murlock and then you're going to play another murlock and then you're going to play 50 murlocs by the time
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you're done with the game that's how it goes it's like that thing about 50 feral Hogs except with
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murlocs I also just realized they they ended this whole thing with a they talk about how many it's more merlock people
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in the US China India and all of Europe combined and they like which is just yeah okay yeah
43:35
just do the whole thing in merlock don't don't put any any English in there just have it be that's my favorite thing
43:43
about the like in uh dragon flight going to as Merlo and everything was merlock
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the quest text everything I thought it was the best thing they ever did um so yeah that's happening 1.7 trillion dead
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milers and apparently people spent 203 years inside The Clash Maps uh for
44:02
OverWatch 2 um I I don't I am surprised to find that out but two yeah 203 years
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um I guess they were going in spaceships or something I'm I'm not sure it looks like a spaceship I don't know it's not
44:13
so hard to believe 10 people a 15minute match that yeah I do like enough time to
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fly to Neptune and back eight times over it's like um depending on how fast you can go yeah might take long like what
44:27
are you using for that calculation blizzard yeah you know really hard I
44:33
can't fly till Neptune at any speed so you know who knows yeah like Jose yeah
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like he doesn't want to talk about his spaceship some of us can get to Neptune man uh but yeah that's so that happened
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and that's actually kind of fun it's a fun little you know year Roundup thing uh I would kind of like if it was had a
44:51
little bit more in terms of like I want to say concrete details like there's stuff I'd like to know about the
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day-to-day running of of various blizzard games and I'd really like to Heroes of the Storm things like what
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what what's the deal with all these Heroes of the storms patches guys come on just just give PE these people want Heroes of the Storm just either give it
45:08
to them or Crush their hopes already I mean our hopes have already been crushed a while ago we're we're sort of just
45:13
piecing them together with hope and duct tape and each each patch note is another roll of of of Gorilla Tape yeah I'm
45:20
saying that you need to either say yes that's fine or Crush you again you know either give you what you want or just
45:27
just destroy you I I don't know uh let's see what else we got here lizard I'll come design I I'll come design Heroes
45:32
for you let's go like I got I got yeah I got millions of hours in these types of games let's go put him in the basement
45:38
give him some snacks uh I want a cat Tre yeah he don't have to give him a cat
45:45
just give him a tree maybe a laser pointer um but also we have these various sales which uh Liz was kind of
45:50
enough to link us to so there's a ton of sales going on because it is again capitalism day capitalism month season
45:57
season yeah season that's probably good go ahead Li I mean you've got all of
46:03
these sales for world Warcraft stuff I know some people out there continually wait for the uh Warcraft Services sale
46:11
they're on sale to move your characters rename your characters change your races etc etc I you want to do that it's a
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little cheaper right now among other things there are so many pets on sale guys yeah it's like you don't realize
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how many pets there are in until blizzard is posting a list of them for
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sale same with mounts and mounts and toys there's so many toys yep but the
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mounts to me really got caught my eye because one of them is that cat who just looks like a house cat it's just a big
46:43
house cat that you can ride on it's like you have the other it's kind of glowing it's a
46:48
glowing house cat they they try to make the house cat happen and it's a cool Mount but it will never be fat cat for
46:55
Final Fantasy 14 I'm sorry blizzard it's also never going to be Cat Bus dude cat buses are more important
47:03
and then it's never going to be cat bus I I'm kind of sad although cat bus is disturbing he's got like 20 legs what's
47:08
up with all the legs cat bus that's the disturbing part it's not that you're riding inside of it oh well
47:15
that gets into a whole new thing where you go beyond disturbing and into squi because the seats and it's just it's all
47:22
made out of his internal stuff but apparently nobody cares people just sitting on
47:27
like okay that's that's good cat bus but anyway uh yeah look at looking at all
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the various cuties here um just looking at the pets there's a sloth if you don't already have a sloth I don't know why I
47:39
because they were given away the sloth is great it's it's also one of those pets that when you summon it it you can
47:46
it will ride on your back there are a few pets like that all great the sloth was the first one I remember doing that
47:52
it actually there real good the sloth was one of the charity pets right that was I think year or two ago I believe so
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yeah and of course the current charity pet is Revan uh who proceeds to go to
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cure duan's which I think we all remember the tragic story The Tragic Netflix documentary that made us all cry
48:14
the remarkable life of iin that's uh benefiting benefiting that charity and
48:19
also it comes it's a pet but it's also a backpack with a tiny fox in it and a
48:27
Sherlock wearing a Sherlock Holmes hat and occasionally a butterfly will fly
48:33
around you and land on its nose and then it will sneeze and the Butterfly will fly away I just thought that's that's
48:39
important you needed to know that yeah now if you'll excuse us we're gonna have to mute for a couple of minutes um so
48:45
it's it it's it's not so you aren't only
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supporting charity you are getting a tiny fox in a Sherlock Holmes hat who rides around on back and occasionally a
48:58
butterfly lands on his nose it's amazing that's just be remember that if you
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don't have that you could that could be something happening to you I I should clarify that is not on sale you can buy
49:11
it but it is not discounted it is but it exists shy out but yes it exists and you
49:16
can have it and I I highly not and to slightly segue away from that the 97th
49:23
Oscars short lists were just announced today and the remarkable life of eelyn is on the short list for documentary
49:29
feature oh that's incredible thank God for you tied that in I was like what where's he going with
49:35
this we got there though we got there we got there in the end yeah you just got to go with it like a movie you don't get
49:42
to ask who's that guy at the first scene it's going to tell you you just got to trust in the movie oh no people get to
49:47
ask I've been I remember sitting there who's that person for God's sake the movie just started just watch it ah
49:55
although nothing will ever beat when I was watching Avengers uh in 2012 and
50:01
when Captain America is talking to the waitress that he saved and someone in the room screamed that's that's Ashley
50:08
Johnson and threw their drink screen I was like yeah she's an actress
50:14
calm down holy cow yeah there there's a there's an obscure D and there's there's
50:21
your critical role Avengers crossover written just for you
50:27
all right um how much time we have left Joe because I know we're we started a little late uh we got about eight minutes left all righty then I'm going
50:34
to try this uh there's a bunch of stuff here about all the games we had this week the game awards we've had this week
50:40
um I just want to mention this thing that that Liz has is demos we can't wait to try and you know what demos you know
50:47
you know are there any demos you guys want to play or whatever I like this idea uh I went and looked at the Demos
50:52
in our article and they're all kind of like cute which is great I don't mind a cute game um but I I don't think any of
50:58
these are the ones for me but do any of you do any of these really work for you guys like any of these demos that you want to play some of the games I'm
51:05
looking forward to not demo kind of games like I'm really looking forward to the outer worlds too mhm I am so excited
51:14
I am so excited I cannot contain myself um but I did play one of these demos I
51:20
played uh craftcraft which is a I'm so looking forward to war war
51:27
yeah yeah it's the flip side of war war it's craftcraft and you are running a fantasy shop and you are building things
51:35
to sell in your shop and clients come by and ask you for things and during the
51:41
demo a a person comes by and asks you for a tiara and they want the tackiest
51:48
most trashy Tiara you can possibly construct they're very specific they
51:53
want like something horrible so yourct goes out in the back alley behind your shop and you pick up all of this trash
52:01
which then you use to construct a tiara and it's like you use sticks and bones
52:07
and bird skulls and scraps of fabric and maybe buttons or discarded Show tickets
52:13
and it's like you turn this into a tiara based like there there are some kind of little crafting mini games where you're
52:20
like using the forge to make a to make things but and you have like different
52:27
patterns for different kinds of tiaras and you sort of have to fit your sticks and bones into kind of a pattern that
52:35
that works that is Tiara shaped but then you can just you can just go crazy it's
52:41
like okay I'm going to glue a button and a bird skull onto the center of it I'm
52:46
going to put this rusty old gear over here I'm going to hang some dying flowers on it I you can just you can
52:53
just go for it and you you get it to the customer and it's like it gives you a
52:59
rating based on quality I'm real curious to see how those numbers work but I
53:05
maxed out that quality rating I'm very pleased with myself I'm going to I'm going to hold that memory in my heart
53:12
okay uh anybody else uh kill play any demos Sorry God it just be a game you
53:17
want to play man I don't care just something well I was gonna seg way into that but then I was stepping on Joe's toes okay Joe kill the music uh I love
53:25
Rhythm games uh it's probably one of those things that I have dumped the most amount of time into that isn't a Rog likee and
53:33
sometimes are also Rog likes uh this is something that really piqued my interest
53:39
and I'm looking forward to uh getting my hands and playing the demo uh because it's environmental Music Plus
53:46
interactive notes power up your instruments as you fight off waves of Undead enemies yes please um and the the
53:52
description of Hades uh Rog likee so death is temp temporary uh with the
53:58
Rhythm system I mean it's it's basically like crypto the necro dancer for me and that's another game that I just have
54:04
stupid amounts of hours in so super excited to try that okay Corey Borderlands 4 is coming uh it's not
54:11
really a big surprise but I've played the living crap out of all the other
54:16
Borderlands and Tiny te in the game so I'm definitely in for this one I don't even feel like I need a demo for it
54:22
because I'm sure that whatever slight gameplay tweaks they've done are it's still going to be Borderlands that so I
54:29
did for some reason I thought you said Borderlands I did say Borderlands okay that's coming out
54:37
Borderlands really I didn't wow I guess the movie didn't kill it cool that movie was terrible so I'm
54:42
glad heard probably they were probably working on Borderlands 4 before the
54:48
movie bombed soas it whether it bombed or not oh it
54:53
bombed it bombed yeah it did but the game was already there ironically for me
54:59
the game I was thinking of uh Joe went and said his and then I realized that I I was gonna have a hard time saying mine
55:04
but I'm gonna say it anyway uh kill the shadow you guys seen this thing kill the
55:10
shadow it's by Shadow light sanctuary and 663 games and it's like imagine a
55:17
Capcom fighting game from the 80s but it's they're adapting disco elesium with
55:24
it it's this whack bizarre first kind of like 1.5% P
55:31
perspective sidescrolling RPG I don't I don't know how to explain
55:37
this question yeah like it is watching that you move your character through like you're playing this guy Lucas who's
55:44
a cop who's now broken down and has barely any will to live but in the past he was this upand cominging cop and you
55:50
explore how he ended up in in the the bad place he's in now and what he's
55:55
doing to get out of it and so forth and it's it's kind of feels a little bit like um not the yaku games but there was
56:01
a Hong Kong Triad fighting game a few years back that just didn't make it but
56:06
it was really good it had like a DLC where you played a Hopping vampire this is probably not helping anyone but it feels kind of like that in terms of its
56:13
its mood and and pacing um it's just it's bizarre but it's fun and it really
56:19
does it reminds me the way that the character portraits come up when you talk to them it reminds me a lot of the
56:26
way Airship Syndicate did their battlechasers jrpg it it's very similar to that where you talk to somebody and
56:32
your priel Sprite doesn't look like anything but then the character portrait comes up with their dialogue kind of way
56:38
disco elium did too for that matter so yeah it's got a lot of stuff going on and when Joe said kill the music I was
56:43
like H can I still use mine ah whatever so I went with it anyway but yeah give that a shot it's it's bizarre it is a
56:49
weird little I did play the demo yeah I actually however uh that means we're now
56:54
basically out of stuff to say uh yeah I can say that Arcane season 2 was really good have you guys seen it yeah yeah it
57:01
was I liked it not gonna say anything else because I have in the past been a little loose with story spoilers uh but
57:08
I will say that I liked it a lot and I really liked how they worked certain characters in and that's all I'll say on
57:15
that front yeah it's it's well worth your time and the animation alone is well worth watching I I thoroughly
57:21
enjoyed it and it oh boy were a lot of people upset when it didn't win best uh TV show adaptation oh yeah who did win
57:29
uh fallout Fallout kind of hard not to say wasn't very good yeah they were both
57:35
yeah that's the problem we're even though we have things like Borderlands the movie bombing we have also had some
57:43
really great video game shows and Fallout was spectacular I mean Arcane I
57:50
love the heck out of Arcane but Fallout managed to just totally capture the
57:55
feeling of playing a Fallout yeah I think I think they were both really really good for different reasons like
58:01
Arcane yeah Arcane is a culmination of years of essentially the team trying to
58:10
fix uh the lore of run Terra right like they they like everything that they did
58:16
in the show was stuff that I know people have been working on like changing the backgrounds of Heroes and updating the
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story so that it actually made like sense as opposed to what it was originally and like it was a complete
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reworking of the Mythos of the world uh whereas Fallout was a perfect encapsulation of what makes fallout
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Fallout they were both fantastic it's just yeah but plus also this is the first time Fallout was up for anything
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versus Arcane got a lot of awards and attention when it came out and this was season two oh for sure you so I think to
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a certain degree there was a little bit of this is the slightly newer thing um
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but I I I liked them both a lot I honestly I have this Theory and I don't know what you guys think but I'll throw
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it out there and you guys can reject it or whatever I think it's better for video games to get TV series ad
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adaptations because the shortest video game I've ever played took me 16 hours to finish you know what I mean and 16
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hours is way too long for a movie I feel like trying to break some of these like Halo trying to break Halo down into a TV
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series has barely worked mov trying to do it as a movie it's the same it's the
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same discussion we've had about comic books being converted over into to movies yeah that didn't really work
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until they just committed to doing multiple movies it but also never worked until they committed to not making a not
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doing a onetoone comic book uh story right and then even then some of
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them do uh work better as Cals like the street level heroes because the street
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level heroes are like look at Jessica Jones and Punisher and Daredevil and even Iron Fist they do better in that
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type of format because it's a longer form of Storytelling lets you be a lot subtler with what's happening so yeah
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games are games are much the same boat I really do think that Arcane is a really great example of not just the mytholog
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mythologizing you talked about you know updating run Tera and making some characters like VI really did not have
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good backstories no she was she was a cop and now she's and now she's got so
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much more amazing and Caitlyn is such a more complex character and Jinx is a absolutely Jinx is a more complex
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character and Jinx is a character Jinx is no longer Harley Quinn with a bazooka she's actually a person it is really
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something how they did this but I think at this point we probably should close up shop yeah I would agree and uh that's
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