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Overwatch 2 was the game we were most excited to start discussing this week. The development team released a big showcase just ahead of season 15's release, which also contained a lot of content teasers like upcoming hero Freja for season 16 and beyond. Loot boxes? 6v6 in competitive? What year is this, 2019? Not to be left out, the Hearthstone team also released a ton of info for their next expansion, Journey into the Emerald Dream. It involves splitting the classes into a side for the Dream and a side for the corrupted Emerald Nightmare, and Matt had a little quibble about including Warriors with the likes of Warlocks and Death Knights.
Plus, a little bird (Jason Schreier) told us there won't be a new Diablo 4 expansion til 2026, so we discussed how we feel about that (and weirdly... not bad?).
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hi everybody and welcome to the Blizzard watch podcast uh this is a podcast where we talk about Blizzard Entertainment it's many games and then some other
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games too if we feel like it and have time often it's and half time uh in addition to myself I'm Matt we have Liz
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Harper the sites uh Grand High Puba and otherwise overall editor-in Chief you
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that that's her job that's who she is hello also uh we have Joe Perez who does
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practically everything to keep this show going like record it and get it up you know all edit it all that stuff hi Joe
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hello and as our special guest we've confirmed before the podcast that he is still a guest and not actually a
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featured actor but regardless he's good it's good that he's here uh Phil Eric hi Phil hi are you in any way related to
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the comic book character Ben Eric uh no because there's an L in my name that you're missing over it's but I'm also
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I'm also not related to any famous or rcks as far as I know like Lars yes not yes I can't you're lucky there you
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dodged a bullet yeah I know anyway now that I've slagged on the drummer from Metallica for absolutely no
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reason you're catching Strays yeah I don't know what that was uh this week a
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lot of stuff happened the week that just happened uh I I hope you understand we can't tell you what's coming in the
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future if we could we would but unfortunately I I have not been strapped to a rock with my liver torn out or
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anything like that so no gift of Prophecy um but nevertheless we had a big reveal about OverWatch uh season 15
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we had a whole big deal that they were talking us about um so this is an
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interesting thing uh I have motion sickness so I can only like read OverWatch news and watch videos I have a
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I have a question for you Matt goad is the motion sickness thing based on it being a first person game yes I can't go
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to third person very effectively in it I mean there to a degree can see your character moving but it's not as much
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yeah as I need I need a wider one of the things they announced at this big
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OverWatch uh 2025 event was that there's a new mode coming starting in season 16
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called Stadium it's a new 5v5 mode but Pro probably the most interesting thing
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is that you can play it in third person yeah and believe me that's an interesting thing for me because I I
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mean I'm not going to be a great OverWatch player ever blind people tend not to be really good at competitive
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Shooters but I I do like the game enough that I would most likely play it if it didn't make me want to hurl um yeah
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unrelated to that but I was just now realizing that it's it's amazing I've gotten through cyberpunk because there's
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no way to switch it you just you have that totally first person view and it's a it's a testament to just how much I
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love it that I basically just look down a lot it's like oh no don't look around me don't look around just look down um
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but regardless what what's what what do you think other than that news I mean I guess there's loot boxes to talk about I
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mean loot boxes com back there before you even get there like do you want to talk about the Talon and perk thing that they're doing yeah but I figured we talk
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about that as a big deal like because it's very big deal isn't it yeah it definitely is all right go ahead Joe um
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okay or Liz I think you were you're starting there so otherwise I'll I'll crack in because I have feelings about
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this just not I don't know much about OverWatch yeah about the perks well I mean about the loot boxes too but that's
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a whole other thing all right here's what we'll do Liz talk and then Joe will talk there okay well I I'll I'll start
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with perks because it's first on this list I have in front of me so perks sound like something we were promised
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for the PVE version of OverWatch which never happened and they're talents that
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you're going to get while you're playing the game so you'll get a talent that might improve one thing or the other
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thing you might get um so they're completely different for hero but
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frankly it reminds me of Heroes of the Storm yep because you're going to play You're Going to level up and it's like
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oh do I want to upgrade this thing in this direction or in that direction and that's going to completely sort of
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change how you approach the game it's going to change how you approach other Heroes how other Heroes approach you and
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I think it's really cool to add more modifications to any game so this is a big thing this is now live in season 15
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now jumping ahead to season 16 when the stadium mode shows up it's going to have
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something that is a lot like perks but with a different name called mods so
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when you're playing in the stadium you can mod your character in different ways that it's it's like perks but it seems
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like there are more of them you have more options and more ways to upgrade and change your gameplay I think all of
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this is great being able to control how you play modify how you play I think that's great in absolutely every game
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I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays out Joe I think it is a horrible thing
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that ruins quickplay and competitive and should not be introducing anything outside of a standard into any of the
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standard game modes and I'm going to tell you why this ruins this ruins a skill-based competitive experience
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period because there's no like how do you get these perks how often do you get them just one team is one team possible
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able to pull ahead and get more perks in the other team therefore increasing the Gap and making it a absolutely lopsided
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experience that the other team can't come back from also there are currently 42 Heroes which means that there's what
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they they said 168 Perks at launch with each hero having two minor and two major perks to choose from this creates a
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potential for massive imbalance and combinations therein are also possible
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for massive imbalance and again in a game that is supposed to have a competitive mode that it relies around
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skill that is a problem in a game like Heroes of the Storm or League of Legends or any of the the Moa style games that's
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completely different where like I mean Heroes of storm you couldn't adjust your talents once you had them that was it you just you you wi them you went a
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build and you went there in every other game that does something similar to this everybody can dump their skills and
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rebuild it and also your experience gaps the game compensates for to try to keep
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people within a certain range of each other otherwise the game just ends here I think it completely Alters the
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OverWatch experience into something that's not OverWatch and it makes me not want to play the game even like I don't
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even want to pick it back up and I think that it's a cool idea for individual
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game modes but should not be part of quickplay and should not be part of competitive and I'm going to be very
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curious to hear what serious FPS Gamers or people that were still pushing
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competitive what they think about this because it's going to alter that gameplay experience because again you
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can't plan for what your opponents are going to do even though it sounds like oh there's only two minors and two
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majors for everybody that's still a lot to compensate for a mid-match and again in a competitive game that
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relies on strategy and equal and equal skill or at least making it skill-based
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it Alters that game entirely and again this is my opinion but I've seen other
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games in the past like this that have done similar things and it completely ruins that experience because you you
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can't build around it you can't plan for it you can't explain and then what happens if you like do you keep those
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those perk levels when you switch to another character if you're in quick play uh do you are you hard locked in in
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competitive uh is there you know a way to redo those if you pick the wrong
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thing uh sentiment wise again like in something like Stadium fine but the
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minute they said competitive I'm like this this just doesn't make any sense the game is not built around that and it completely Alters the experience
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especially with the other thing um I mean there's another thing where they're
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and I'm just going to segue into it just real quick cuz I think it's relative here they're adding a this a permanent
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6v6 mode for competitive and they already had a hard enough time balancing that the first time
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around and now you're introducing 168 more variables into that so it's a
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really cool concept but I think it's going to make the game unplayable for a lot of people okay I R it is a balanced
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nightmare it is like I'm I'm thinking about when World of Warcraft went and added the hero
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talents and we're all looking at these and thinking how are they going to balance this this is so many extra
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talents this is so many extra abilities and it's like that's never going to be balanced and kind of what happened in
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World of Warcraft is there's there's a best one to choose and you choose it that's kind of how it shook out but this
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is a very different kind of game you're looking at this Joe from a competitive angle and I'm looking at it from a
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player angle cuz I don't do a lot of serious competitive gameplay so that's
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that I look at it and say oh having more choices and getting to play in different ways sounds really interesting but you're exactly right this is going to be
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much more difficult to do counterplay and to just approach the game and a competitive so I mean we'll
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see 168 perks I don't I don't know is it possible to balance 168 perks Pro I mean
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maybe but I mean also the other thing about a hero shooter is you want to change your play style you switch the
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hero you're on right like if you have mercy and your
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options are okay Mercy heals more or Mercy crit heals more often you're not
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really changing the experience you're claiming you are you're just making an already annoying healer even more
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annoying to deal with right or it could do something where instead of doing healing she does an exponential more
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amount of damage I remember uh when mercy had like the highest damage cap in
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the game with her little pistol uh and you could literally head shot somebody better than black than the than
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Widowmaker could right like it it's a weird position for for them to be to be
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in here and I think they're trying to refresh it and try to get people to come back and play the game yeah but I just
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don't know if this is going to do what they wanted to do I think you guys are ignoring something though and that would be you want to know what it is I was
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curious if you wanted to know what it was um they've been doing stuff in their design that feels an awful lot like
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they're trying to backo in stuff they were talking about doing at BlizzCon
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four or five years ago like I remember biscon 2019 it's the last one the only
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one I ever got to go to I remember the OverWatch 2 trailer and I remember all
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the discussion of what OverWatch 2 was going to be and as Liz points out frequently and and rightly so you know
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that didn't happen we didn't get that but it feels like they're kind of bringing in all the nuts and bolts
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for that kind of game well yeah I think Liz mentioned that this was similar to what they they almost exactly what they
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said yeah it's almost exactly the same and so is the the mods thing that's coming in for the other the other game
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mode it's it's funny how it feels like it's there's like almost like a civil war in the OverWatch 2 team is in terms
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of what game they are making and I'm fascinated by this because I I don't
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know if it's just a simple matter of oh people are playing r what do we do or if it's if it's a
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bigger more elaborate dispute between Visions for the game I don't know that
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they know what the game vision is anymore that's my point I think there are at least two competing ones and
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these teams are like not sure which one they're supposed to be designing for because this is the kind of thing that
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would be great for for PVE if there was a or even if you just had like some kind
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of non crazy like like imagine if you were doing a PV PP thing which was where
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you each were attempting to get to a place first and you weren't fighting each other very much like imagine if you
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had alter Valley in OverWatch like something where you're trying to each get to a to a location and do something
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there before the other team can get to could to can get to another one that's a that was a very PVE focused Battleground
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still is I mean you know I haven't played it in a while but you know you're still going kill a guy in situations like that having that kind of choice
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could be interesting so is is that coming or is this just a case of they
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they had an idea and thought it would be interesting I don't know but I do think it's it's really convoluted to look at
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OverWatch right now and try to work out what's going on by the choices they make I feel like it's
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maybe maybe less of an intentional design decision and more looking back on
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the game that was and all of the development time they spent trying to make single player work trying to make
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PVE work and and saying okay we've got all of these perks that we set up we've
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got these talents we were going to do can we take this work this stuff we were working on and use it I you do see game
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developers do that they you may not get the game that they were initially planning but you may get parts of it so
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I I feel I don't want to say scraping the bottom of the barrel that's not the the right term for this it might just be
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time crunch if they feel like they have to get something out get something out now you spend time to try and develop a
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whole new feature that has nothing in common with anything you ever had or do you look back and go hey what if we took
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path of the Titans and kind of did it different because we've had we've had six or seven path of the Titans in wow
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we just never got path of the Titans and but you know look the the artifact weapon borrowed Power Systems kept
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coming back and they were basically path of the Titans so yeah I mean I get what you're saying on should we talk about
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the loot boxes how how their battle pass okay so uh loot boxes they're coming
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back but they're basically on the battle pass which means they're not like the old loot boxes at all um so I do love
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the headline that I think Anna must have given this when I said OverWatch you just referred to a backup from 2019
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already I did not mean I wanted loot boxes on the battle pass and I mean I just love that headline so I was going
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to repeat it yeah I just don't feel like anyone asked for this and the thing is
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loot boxes are on the free battle pass so whereas previously the free battle
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pass had a list of rewards that you would get as you played through the battle pass now you're going to play
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through the battle pass and get loot boxes which give you random rewards that you may or may not want or be interested
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in or may not be great so it it feels like an extra uh an extra slap to PV oh
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I hate using that word to tve players oh no ah I'm I'm I'm going all the wrong
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directions tonight it just it just feels like it feels worse if you are a free player because yeah now you don't even
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know what you're gonna get yeah and it's the one good thing about a battle pass free or not is that you know what the
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next thing is you know what you're working for you know what you're heading down the road on and now they fixed
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that yeah last time I played OverWatch or with loot boxes in it I know exactly what you're gonna get a couple sprays
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have fun a lot of this a lot of this feels like they're panicking and going what when OverWatch was Top of the World
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this is what we had we got to put it back in there somehow loot boxes they loved loot boxes yeah like and I'm I'm also curious
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if they're going to be I'm assuming that they're going to have to file the drop rates for things again with the various
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gaming commissions that are not in the United States um but like yeah it's this
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is such a baffling baffling decision I don't know what they think the goal is
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here like I am not going to be surprised if this dramatically drops purchasing of
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battle passes with paid tiers because if you don't know what you're getting why
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are you going to give it money like every every other premium battle pass just shows you what you get yeah is that
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what the premium is that part of what B I misunderstood but my uh my understanding was that the premium one
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does show what you're getting it's only the free players who are getting Stu with okay yeah yeah so it's only the
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free tiers on the battle pass that get loot boxes the paid tiers you still get
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promis Anna and Chad is saying that they're on both Anna saying they're on both oh well okay okay so my point
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stands my point is just that didn't didn't we get Battle passes on like
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weren't they designed to replace things like loot boxes wasn't that goal no so not not specifically so the thing with
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battle passes is there are battle passes that exist out there rocket League was one of them before um they were bought
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by epic and and all that stuff uh even League of Legends does it uh to a certain degree uh where in your battle
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passes premium or otherwise you got loot boxes or drop crates or emotes or
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whatever the case was it was scattered among everything that you possibly had
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the only one that I I I think even for a while I think even fortnite on the premium one had uh like ones that you
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would have like essentially that were loot boxes like here you unlock a weapon skin but it's a random weapon skin so
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this is nothing new it just happens to be new since OverWatch added battle pass
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in particular M yeah I I don't know that all these decisions just make me not
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want to play OverWatch guys like I loved OverWatch I played I played a bunch of OverWatch 2 too I reinstalled it so
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excited when I got a brand new computer put that put that thing all the way to Max like everything and yeah like I
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understand that I'm in a love affair with Rivals right now but I I'm like I'm as we're sitting here I'm literally
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uninstalling OverWatch 2 I'm not even joking sorry I said a lot there I again
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sleepy sleepy giant Joe has uh has lots of opinions on today's uh various gaming
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BS that's happening no it's it's good I like opinions also uh before we move on
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to other things uh really fast you're um there's no new heroes in season 15 in
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case you were like oh this new Heroes uh we do know that we are getting more heroes in the future um yes in fact go
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ahead Liz in season 16 we're getting Freya who is a finnished search and
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rescue operative turned into a bounty hunter because that's a natural career
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progression so a lot of people seem really excited about her she has uh like
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and crossbows and uh I I feel like she looks a lot like a Diablo Demon Hunter
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personally that's my take on her but we'll see we'll see next season her
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skin already have Ash at home so I I do like that kind of point but I don't her
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skin does look like the proposed uh Diablo Demon Hunter skin for uh
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OverWatch that we saw a while ago so I Liz may be on to something here and also
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since we're talking about season 16 and Liz already mentioned stadium that is a mode that is coming uh and addition to
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hopefully making it so I can go third person uh and play the game uh it's it's
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a 5v5 experience so it's not 6v6 it's still 5v5 uh but then it's going to have
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the coins that you spend while you're playing kind of kind of like perks but it's also kind of like you know plunder
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storm or you know Tor Gast in a way and that you get these things and spend
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points on them and then you get more of them and so forth as you go I again it
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it feels like a PVE mechanic getting brought into a PVP game so I'm not sure of how that's going to play out but I'm
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I'm excited just for the ability to at least play OverWatch quite frankly uh thing go ahead the thing is you know
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OverWatch ditched the the PVE mode the story mode because they couldn't get it
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to work basically they couldn't get it to feel feel like a good gameplay experience but now it does feel like
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they're taking some of that some of those features they promised in this mode and uh clamping them onto the base
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game so can the question is can you merge these two gameplay ideas because
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in fact they've already told us we tried to do this and it didn't work but now they're adding it back you know I think
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talking with you through this Joe is i' I've kind of changed my mind my my thinking on this is flipped and it's
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more like can they make this work how's it going to play we're going to have to see it just launched so we're going to
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have to see how it goes yeah I mean and and that's the thing like it's an unknown and we don't
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know how it's going to be received and maybe it does you know renew interest in the game maybe it does create an
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interesting play experience for players maybe it creates an experience that completely kills competitive play
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because you people don't like perks or uh the perks are always going to be
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exactly the same because there is only one mathematical thing you can pick for each hero that makes it the best in
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competitive mode period who knows we'll find out but well I won't find out because I'm gonna I literally I will I
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literally have uninstalled the game I will wait to see what people report on it but yeah though that it's it does it
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feels like a lot like they're bolting on stuff from the single player game that would have been like you or a PVE
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experience you tell me that this stuff is available in a PVE experience I'd be all over it right you and you and your
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makes me wonder go ahead Phil it makes me wonder if maybe like this was part of the PVE experience that did work
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and they kind of filed it away to go let's save this for later and we can make use of it and scrap whatever didn't
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like maybe the actual like PVE story structure of gameplay wasn't working for them but like we had this cool perk
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system and we can bring that back in the future maybe cuz I mean it does it does feel like something that you could lift
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entirely out of its original context which I would I would guess like you guys are saying they probably have and
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just found a new mode for it also I want to put this in here I am surprised in a game that puts as much effort and art
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value especially in creating prettyy looking skins that this is the first time I can remember being able to play the game in third person like I I I
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don't know about you guys I I didn't really worried about skins and OverWatch because I I wanted to look at them they're not there for you to look at
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they're there for me it's kind of weird that you know you only get to see them at set times like I want to I want to
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see my skin while I'm actually playing the game so they were there for play the game buddy yeah like I'm ever gonna get
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that yeah the the interesting thing though is if this is lifted from the the PVE side that they were working on and
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they claim that they didn't get PVE out there because they couldn't get it to work which I remain skeptical about I'm
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I'm not going to lie um makes me wonder what didn't work in PVE then they say
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that it wasn't a satisfying go ahead it might be something as simple as the fact that they did not have any kind of
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method by which the narrative could exist like they don't really have an open world OverWatch yeah but okay so
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but here's the thing in OverWatch one and we've talked about this a lot they had had PVE player experiences yeah but
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those were curated experiences in a single location not a why can't you why can't you do the same thing well I mean
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I don't know because that's what Titanfall 2 had and Titanfall 2 had the best PVE experience I've ever played
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with that kind of structure um it was a shooter and you drove around in a big
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robot and shot people and it was great it was you know it was a single player experience where you went from place to
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place and then you get to a point where it would move on to the next chapter why couldn't they do that here I don't know
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but that might have been it might have been a time thing yeah but really idea and that's what I'm curious about because like it makes me wonder why they
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couldn't just do what they did with the other PV experiences which is okay here's the we're going to lay out the story in these segments here's six parts
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and I'm just going to pick an arbitrary number you cue for part one with friends or randos or by yourself with robots uh
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and you go through and you play The Experience just like you did in the in OverWatch one uh with like the omnic
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crisis and all the other stuff that they released uh or junkenstein's Revenge where it's a scenario it's an arena
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shooter to begin with lean into it uh and that it doesn't have to be this massive open World experience it just
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has to deliver story and again and we've talked about this before with OverWatch
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even and on lat and and even when an an was with us we had all these ways that
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they delivered story outside of game and all they need need to do is put cutcenes inside of the game and the game engine
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can the game engine not handle cutcenes does I mean it doesn't seem like that's really a problem it seems like they can
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intersperse like the animated stuff that they do elsewhere and put it into the game as it is so you have those story
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moments of like video or animation or whatever then gameplay and Arena where
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you like fight through an encounter or go chasing across a city with you know against a specific villain or whatever
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then back to another an animation thing and then you cue for the next one like I would love more details on what didn't
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work in PVE and why they think this stuff will work in PVP like I just I
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want more information and I feel like this is just very sparse I think some of the problem might
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come down to the very simple fact that they were promising us a game in 2019 sure then 2020 happened followed by the
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2021 Blitz apocalypse when the state of California brought their um employee
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action against them and then the massive massive amount of people just leaving or
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being fired or Vanishing in a puff of smoke I'm looking at you Jeff Kaplan um
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who knows I don't I don't think we'll we it's gonna take us a long time to get answers to those kind of if we ever have
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them personally I feel like Jeff left because because the game he wanted to
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make was not getting made you know one of he was the one who got up on the BlizzCon stage and said yeah we're
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making this game I press events he really insisted this is not just OverWatch this is OverWatch 2 it's a
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real sequel it has this new game mode it's going to tell all these stories it's going to be a separate installation
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it's going to be its own new game engine yeah he seemed really invested in this
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and really interested in building this game and he's the one up there promising these things that blizzard couldn't do
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so that's that's the explanation I've come to in my head that they weren't
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making the game game he was after and he you know he bailed and since then the game has kind of it's been a little iffy
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on its identity it hasn't picked a direction to go plus we we you keep talking about them not doing the PVE
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mode but we don't really mention that that Michael Chu who was their headwriter also left if you if you're
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gonna make a PVE game and your head riter takes off that's that's a pretty big thing to have lost when that's what
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you're trying to do so there's there's a lot of possibilities here we've however we've been talking a lot about this and
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we probably we have so uh gonna g to bring us to this
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cataclysm classic news for a uh dragon souls now out it's live right now uh so
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if you are playing cataclysm you are now on the last phase of cataclysm classic there isn't anything else coming guys
27:45
dragon souls out uh you are in the last content you're getting until Miss
27:50
Pandaria classic yeah you got a few months yeah whatever however long that takes and we don't actually have any
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idea when that is but whenever that happens probably summary summary summary summary summary
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judg we really we really don't have any Warcraft news this week that's kind of
28:10
shocking that there is it's it's a week where kind of nothing happened in
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Warcraft but of course next week the game's rolling but there's no news let us breathe after the onslaught of
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housing news that had everybody uh excited undermines going you know getting the raids you know it's just
28:28
there's not much to talk about yeah next week next week I'm sure we will have no next week is the patch 11.1 so we should
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something's going to happen next week we'll see how the launch goes we'll see what's in there that we didn't expect
28:42
we'll see what's in there that we didn't know about so it lots of excitement next week depending on how long maintenance
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is and whether whether we get to play before we get on to this podcast yes uh
28:55
some Diablo news uh if you've been playing if you haven't been playing Dia before and you want to try and catch up
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not only is the mother's blessing out but it also doubles the CES you can get from the Tree of Whispers which since
29:07
the season is all involving the Witchcraft and the tree Whispers and so forth it's just a nice overall buff to a
29:12
thing that is already pretty useful to getting your if you're playing a season character getting your season character up to max level as fast as possible so
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yes this is a 35% bonus experience for the week and
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50% extra gold but gold is kind of just falling from the sky right now so that's
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a little less interesting and XP bonuses in Diablo 4 are
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multiplicative so you take this 35% you add it to the bonus uh it gets put on
29:42
top of the bonus for the difficulty level you're playing in for the Elixir
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you're using for the incenses you're using every little experience buff is a multiplicative buff so another 35% that
29:57
can get that can get kind of wild really help you get that last bit through
30:02
through your paragon levels finish the season Journey maybe I haven't done that
30:07
yet but it's on my to-do list should probably work on that this week yeah I that's the other problem when we're
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talking about you know games you do and you don't play uh playing Diablo at all
30:17
much less playing both Diablo 4 and Diablo I to some extent uh it's already like like 35 to 55% of my brain is
30:25
already playing Diablo at any given moment and then I Tred to play other games and I'm playing it it it gets kind
30:30
of like the point where I almost feel like OverWatch is going to have to really go out of its way to rock me
30:36
before I can go play it because it's just like how do I justify this it's like I can't really justify Diablo I as
30:41
it is but I still play it um I can't really even help myself it's two o'clock in the morning and I'm I'm tired I'll
30:48
like what's happening I'm playing oh I'm playing at Diablo which one is it oh it's diablo I this time okay cool or the
30:54
week where I kept logging into Diablo I uh Resurrected Without Really knowing why I was doing it um Diablo games are
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just they're like candy to me I cannot stop playing them so yeah uh this is nice it's a nice bonus but what's really
31:09
nice about it in my opinion is the fact that it shows that they are willing to adapt to Mother's blessing to depending
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on the season and that's interesting yeah this is this is such a great fit for the season because you are
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constantly doing Whispers out in the world to complete your head hunts and collect to the seasonal currency and
31:26
while this is available on seasonal Realms and the Eternal Realms you can use it for any characters anywhere I
31:33
think that getting the extra cash from the Tree of Whispers really is a really big buff for seasonal players you're
31:40
going to get twice the gear there's also a season blessing that can increase your
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chance of getting another cash from the Tree of Whispers yeah so it is possible you could go to the tree turn in your
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Whispers and get three three cashes full of gear and gold
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and everything so I I think that's pretty fun I'm going to have to make some time to play this week I don't know
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where I'm going to find that time but that's pretty exciting for me I love going to I ever since they upped the
32:10
amount of stuff you get in the caches I love opening it it's like uh the ultimate dopamine hit of stuff falling
32:15
out in Diablo except so much so fast so yeah they kind of yeah yeah it's like a
32:23
slot machine going off if they want to give me two to three caches I'm not going to object maybe I'll play some Diablo 4 this weekend uh also patch
32:30
2.1.2 is going to be live next week we're going to get NOP right now right now oh it say I thought it said next
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week oh it says live on Tuesday so yeah today today is Tuesday I I did I knew
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that I really did um we are we are speaking to you from the past if you
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were listening to this on Friday or after Friday but uh yes the the newest
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Diablo patch we got the the new nightmare dungeon aics which spawns the hardto find Forgotten Alters
32:58
and you can pet Dorian Dorian forgotten Al I don't remember Dorian have I missed
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Dorian so you have Miss Dorian Dorian is the new Raven companion that you can get
33:10
by finishing The Season's Journey so he is a he is a he's a raven and he's
33:16
pretty cool but you couldn't pet him until now now you can pet him which I do
33:23
think is a notable Point l in the patch notes it's very important
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yeah I thought maybe this was about another Dorian that I know about I was like fromard did he just like mad he
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went to Diablo um so that's good the only problem is you have to finish the
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complete season journey to get Dorian and they've really upped the difficulty
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of the last couple of levels of the Season Journey so it's a tough one it's a tough one and of course part of the
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Season journey is doing your witchcraft powers which means getting to finding forgotten
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altars that um that are they spawn in Dungeons and they give you like extra
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hidden secret witchcraft powers that you can't just buy or earn through the season so and those are some great
34:13
powers like the piran which is not as I understand like the best meta power but I'm if I get it
34:21
I am using it I'm going to have a cloud of piranha around me it's going to be great but I don't have that because the
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Forgotten altars spawn really rarely I am up to like Paragon 168 I think and I
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have seen one forgotten altar in all of that time one so now there will be
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nightmare dungeon uh affixes that will just say forgotten altars will be in
34:47
here so I am really looking forward to that that's really going to help advance and get those last witchcraft Towers
34:54
basically according to Jason sh Rod Ferguson said at dice that they're not going to get the next Diablo 4 expansion until 2026 that doesn't tell us when in
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2026 no but it it does tell us that they're rethinking the Cadence of
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content or at least how long it's going to take to develop an expansion because initially they were like yeah there's
35:13
going to be annual expansions we've got teams working on multiple expansions right now and you know we got our first
35:19
expansion about a year after the after the game launch yeah late 202 and yeah
35:25
so you would have assumed that keep up this annual thing that we would have gotten the next expansion late 2025 now
35:32
that is a no it's coming up in 2026 yeah at some point now it doesn't mean that it could
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be it could be like January of 2026 maybe they pushed it back a few months or maybe still pushing it back that's
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still pushing it back like a quarter so yeah four months so yeah um it's still a pretty big deal but it could also be
35:52
much later it could be like end of 2026 we have no idea at the moment I do think
35:58
however that they put out so much content for Diablo 4 over the past you know two years of its existence that it
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it is I mean not even two years year and a half yeah year and a half at this point right yeah it's it's not been out
36:10
very long and so all a lot of content a lot of revamping a lot of patches some
36:16
of it I mean we we could discuss what we thought of seasonal content like you know until we're blew in the face but
36:22
regardless A lot's come out for it I feel like at least to some degree it's not the into the world that we don't
36:28
immediately have whatever's coming in the next expansion um I mean CU you know I also I also think more development
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time is good I felt like the current Diablo expansion was a little a little
36:41
Half Baked it felt like we got you know kind of half of a story and it left off right when it was going to get
36:46
interesting so I wasn't really Satisfied by the last expansion it was like okay
36:53
this is fine but where's felt like like they knew that too cuz we got you know that extra half a plot line kind of
36:59
shoved in that didn't really have anything to do with the main story it was uh if if it means they'll give it us
37:05
a less half-baked experience than vessel of hatred I'm all for it so I actually still don't think vessel of hatred was
37:11
Half Baked I think that they did that on purpose um and I think they did it on purpose because they're they're sliding
37:16
further and further into the MMO mindset but to a degree I I don't think it works
37:21
because you can't there's not going to be a big patch for vessel of hatred with the other half of the story and since
37:28
that's not going to be the cas you can't just release half of the story and and
37:33
call it a day I mean and then wait well and then wait for a year and a half yeah
37:39
wait yeah absolutely so yeah it is weird I do feel like this would make more
37:45
sense if as you say Matt we had kind of an MMO sort of patch Cadence where we
37:50
got a little more story a little more story a little more story and I feel like that was kind of the game we were
37:58
looking forward to when they first launched Diablo that we would have seasons that each one would have a
38:05
little bit of story in it and instead the amount of story the amount of new
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content we've gotten every Seas has been extremely sparse it's like okay I can
38:15
play this through in an hour and a half and it does have a little B story it's just also entirely self-contained and
38:21
has no bearing on the greater world of Diablo at no point in vessel of hatred
38:26
did someone to hat do you guys remember a couple months ago when a bunch of vampires attacked all over the continent was that weird that doesn't really
38:34
happen yeah yeah pravo was never like hey thanks for going in that giant pit that appeared out of nowhere with your
38:39
weird robot buddy Hey where's that guy at yeah it was weird it was really weird
38:45
what's she talking about I don't know I don't remember but yeah so that's that's something to keep in mind as we talk
38:51
about that but we're going to move on because I'm trying desperately to get to the point where Joe gets to talk about
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nety um Hearthstone next expansion journey into the emerald dream release
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date is March 25th so in a little more than a month you will be going to the emerald dream and Hearthstone and you
39:09
can log in right now and get a freebie version of yera brand new version to celebrate the coming of this expansion
39:16
and now Liz is gonna have to talk a lot I'm really sorry Liz uh know take breaks
39:22
I I don't know uh so this is another really interesting expansion I feel like this year har Stone has kind of gone
39:28
back to its roots and started making expansions that are really heavily themed and really dig into the Warcraft
39:34
lore in interesting ways that are noncanonical unfortunately so you've got
39:40
two kind of opposing factions represented here the emerald dream and the emerald nightmare uh Emerald dream
39:46
classes are Druid Hunter Mage Paladin priest and Shaman they use a the new uh
39:52
imbu keyword which changes their hero power uh we haven't seen all of them yet
39:57
but you know like a hunter might give an extra plus one attack to a beast in their hand and gets better after each
40:04
use so these do sound very cool they will beef up your hero power which most
40:09
classes use that a lot already on the emerald nightmare side the classes are death knight Demon Hunter Rogue Warlock
40:15
and Warrior and they have a new Dark Gift mechanic which is a discover like
40:21
mechanic am I the only one who feels like the Rogue and the warrior are like looking at each other going are these
40:26
guys evil I think these guyses yeah are we are we the baddies buddy like well I mean I I
40:33
can sneak in and stab people in the back when they're not looking that's kind of evil right well yeah but is it is it
40:40
that in the cuts to the death light you know raising someone from the dead and from the Demon Hunter bursting into fell
40:46
and the Warlock Conjuring a demon and they're like I yell and hit people I
40:52
guess I could yell some curse words yeah ring cry yeah know taunt is you know
40:57
your mother is a hamster in draconic the dragon's like what did you say but regardless yeah that's that's
41:03
interesting Keen balance go ahead Liz yeah so again it's it's kind of digging into the Warcraft lore it's playing
41:08
different ways with different classes which I think is always a fun thing we've seen this in a few expansions
41:14
before not obviously Emerald dream themed but yeah you know different ways
41:20
different classes play a little differently each class will either get a wild god dream or a corrup Ed wild God
41:28
nightmare as a legendary so it's just we're going for the emerald dream theme
41:34
one thing that's interesting about this is that we actually knew this was coming in advance for the first time this year
41:41
hearstone released a road map so so we knew that there was an emerald dream
41:46
expansion coming and this is just today we got the details on it so that is very
41:51
cool the other thing we got today is new Hearthstone Battlegrounds content that's the only thing I really excited about I
41:58
know I just talked all about the emerald dream but actually actually Battlegrounds is what I am here for this
42:05
is we got the Battlegrounds midseason patch has just gone live it adds anomalies to the game one of the
42:11
complaints we've had about hearstone Battlegrounds this season is that it feels kind of it's a little Bland
42:18
because usually Battlegrounds add a new mechanic a new something a new something
42:24
that happens during the season so this season didn't have that but now middle
42:30
of the Season they're adding anomalies which is something we first saw back in season five I think and basically at the
42:37
beginning of each match an anomaly occurs and the anomaly can be any of a
42:43
bunch of different things we have a bunch of new ones this time so it could be like the tavern offers an extra
42:50
Tavern spell after you refresh or I played a match this afternoon where every minion was golden it's like
42:57
there's no need to make a minion golden they're just that way all of the Minions that everyone gets are just super
43:03
powerful out of the gate uh you might get the tavern only offers cards from
43:09
your tier so you'll be getting more powerful cards you won't wind up where you're up at tier five and you keep
43:15
refreshing and it's just tier one and tier two cards it's like no I want the powerful stuff so this will shake up
43:22
games this will make each game play a little differently which that's f fun I
43:27
think it's fun when you have different ways to play that change things up so I
43:33
this is great addition anomalies are not my favorite of the weird tweaks for the season but it is something new and I
43:40
think that is fun but you get any new ones returning ones and ramped ones so
43:45
some of them have actually been redesigned as well yeah so there's uh there are a lot of anomalies to play
43:51
with so I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays I frankly have not been playing a lot of battlegrounds just
43:57
because it's like uh yeah this the same this match is the same yeah so this will
44:02
this will change that up but perhaps the most exciting thing is that we're getting three new heroes from Starcraft
44:10
which all of these sound really awesome and in the match I played today I absolutely got steamrolled by carrian uh
44:20
who she can it's no surprise it's you you get that kind of Zergling Rush thing
44:26
where she can unlock more and more powerful Zerg to summon and it starts
44:32
off as a very expensive hero power for uh seven gold but each turn it costs
44:39
less so you the further you get into the game the easier it is to summon
44:45
different and more powerful Zerg so that one is really cool then we of course
44:50
have Rainer for the for representing the kin faction he has a battle Cruiser he
44:58
can summon a battle cruiser and there are different upgrades that he can add to it throughout the match he will get
45:05
unique battle cruiser cards that he can that he can uh buy when you get refresh
45:11
the tavern so you so he has a battle cruiser and he's just constantly buffing
45:16
it up again that one's going to be really fun to play with and for the
45:22
protos you get artanis he has a yay finally
45:29
where at the start of the game you can choose two protos Minions that you get after you buy 16 cards this is the one
45:37
that's going to be the most questionable of them because like so what are these
45:42
Minions going to be it sounds like they're going to be specific to artanis only things artanis can pick up and you
45:49
know how powerful are they buying 16 cards that is going to take you a bit of
45:55
time yeah that's going to take a while so it's it could be that you have a slow
46:00
early game and then you hit you're going to hit a big power boost when you buy
46:05
those 16 cards new heroes are always exciting they always Shake Up The Meta so I am looking forward to playing some
46:11
more Battlegrounds and I'm I'm GNA stop talking now whoa yay congratulations um
46:18
well we've gone through pretty much all the blizzard news and we are now at a part where we're going to talk about non- blizzard stuff and so since Joe
46:26
doesn't want to talk about n EES uh we're gonna no I'm kidding Joe uh rival Rivals layoff thing it's you're up yeah
46:33
so this goes into something we were talking about earlier where uh well today in right at the same time we were
46:39
getting news of the second portion of uh the current season of Marvel Rivals uh
46:46
and uh the the vision moving forward uh we found out that nety was laying off at
46:54
the very least uh it's us based employees uh now they were based in
46:59
Seattle we don't know a full number of those affected I don't believe uh but I
47:05
haven't heard one yeah but the interesting thing is I think people's reactions to it is is very very
47:10
interesting it is an absolute tragedy that these people are losing their job but everybody is like well this game was
47:17
wildly successful why are they laying people off it's a free-to-play game right and right now it's early enough as
47:26
a live service game that there's not a whole lot of monetization in it so going back to what
47:32
I was talking about earlier where games have like and I think this was pre-show when I was ranting about this I
47:38
apologize times a blur um but games in the last quarter and first quarter of a
47:44
year it's very difficult for them to post well because you don't know what your projection is going to be and in
47:51
this particular case we don't know how much money they've been making off of the live Services none of that's been reported yet it's about to be we're
47:58
coming up on the end of a quarter of a financial quarter and as a result like
48:03
stuff like this is not uncommon and I'm not saying this is a good thing I'm not saying this is you know I'm not trying to justify it I'm just saying it's not
48:10
surprising and again one of the easiest ways to sh up your financial reporting
48:16
is headcount because headcount is overhead and it's the easiest thing you can control when you're trying to make
48:22
your numbers look better than they are also I still think the vast majority of the Developers for the game were in
48:28
China with net ease so yeah we we don't know what percentage was laid off we
48:34
don't know the total number of people um I mean it was at least one level designer that we know of that's been
48:39
very vocal uh one of the I believe game directors the US game director was laid off as well but there's also a game
48:46
director in China there's also level designers there so it's it it's still
48:52
very early in it and it still sucks like just playing out but it's not terribly
48:57
surprising um again gang buster game everybody it's a really great game it's fun to play but it is free and if it's
49:05
if it's not making money hand over fist that's what companies do it's sad but it's true yeah I've heard a couple
49:11
comments to the effect also that uh a this might be typical Mo for netes and maybe it's just the fact the visibility
49:17
of Rivals is the first time that people are kind of aware of this kind of uh business model um I've also heard it
49:23
might actually be uh less of a business move and more of well business and also a geopolitics move yeah I brought that
49:30
up in chat earlier today I think too yeah yeah I think you might be on to something there too um it does suck for
49:36
at least the people who got cut but um I don't I don't think it's unprecedented unfortunately no and it's something that
49:43
I think people are going to be paying more attention to and probably should be paying more attention to uh we're not
49:48
here to talk about politics uh that's not what you come here to listen to but it is something that I think is relevant in the game Space especially with the
49:55
news here and as things in North America get Messier this might not be the last time
50:02
we see something like this this could be a reaction to it this could be something to do with that and trying to disentangle from that because it may
50:09
have added way more complicated layers to it uh monetarily legally than they
50:16
wanted to deal with uh and in the coming months other com other games that are based in uh China that have us support
50:23
or other parts of the world in general that have us components to it we don't know if this is going to happen to them
50:28
either so something to keep your eyes peeled for and be cognizant of in the
50:33
gaming industry I think moving forward all right uh since we have time and I wanted to talk about it uh a vow is
50:39
finally out if you're not doing Early Access uh if you were doing Early Access you've gotten to play it for like a week or
50:45
so I have thoughts and the first thought is that avow is very much like what you
50:50
would get if Obsidian made like Oblivion the Elder Scrolls Oblivion it feels very
50:58
similar in a lot of ways um both good and bad um it does not feel like the
51:04
most inventive and and strange and unique game I got to play recently was
51:10
was pentamen and that's an obsidian game that's just crazy it's it's a really
51:15
cool crazy little game I'm just gonna tell you to go play it I'm not g to try and explain it to you but it's like they
51:21
got all their weird funny original ideas out there and then they released what is
51:26
to me a very good but bog standard fantasy role playing game of this type
51:33
and if you've played anything from Bethesda you have played this now keep
51:38
in mind I'm very early in the game and starting to show signs of going off the
51:43
rails in in the best way possible that's what obsidian does really well they get you started up on something and then
51:51
they pick an exact moment to just you know oh you're riding on a train huh kick train goes off the rails now you're
51:57
like what happened where are we oh you're in the desert figure it out um that is feeling like that could happen
52:03
and I feel like that is part of the reason people love obsidian as a game developer is that they can't really be
52:10
sure what they're going to do like the game anybody who's played Fallout New Vegas knows obsidian while while holding
52:17
to the the structure of the thing you're doing like this is a Fallout game it will feel like a Fallout game it will
52:23
also go to the weirder places of the Fallout Universe this is based on their
52:29
pillars of Eternity uh game series it's uh the world of Aur is the IP from that
52:35
so this is their baby to mess with this isn't them making taking somebody else's game but when you realize obsidian is
52:42
the people who make the outer worlds and outer Worlds 2 is currently in development and I think it'll be out this year year yeah yes yes it will I
52:50
feel like to a certain degree they've made the decision to be more conservative with this game off out of
52:55
the gate because the outer worlds doesn't know what conservative means um and that definitely comes
53:02
through in some of the the voice acting choices I'm sorry when Brandon Keener shows up and literally does the gis
53:09
voice and it's not even it's not disguised in the slightest he's GIS that
53:14
is what Garis sounds like he's doing the gis draw and everything I've heard Brandon Keener speak when he's not doing
53:20
GIS he still sounds very similar but it's a different voice you know it's it's not the same this wasn't a oh hey
53:26
that's the same voice actor that was Shephard like seriously I I I frankly felt like I should have named my
53:32
character Shephard because of just how gsy he was being I feel like with obsidian this is one of two
53:39
possibilities one they are taking the urinary they're taking the urine or they
53:45
are gonna play it straight As long as they can and I I almost want to see what
53:50
that looks like what does an obsidian game look like when it doesn't mess with your head and the thing is at the same
53:56
time there are some ethical choices in this game already I've barely I'm like five hours in I've already had to make
54:02
some decisions that were pretty like do I leave this person to die in this horrible place or do I save them even
54:08
though it's inconvenient for me but it is inconvenient and there is
54:14
that loot over there but the person the moral so the moral choices are pretty pretty much what obsidian
54:21
usually does where like there's a choice there's like there's a there's a morally gray Choice and then there's a morally
54:28
black choice and those are the choices you get um but I like it I think it's good um the the facial Creator is
54:37
something if you played Veil guard it's the veil guard Creator straight up it's it's it's different look but it's the
54:43
same kind of massive amounts of choice but with some you know you can just pick
54:49
a a like a a template if you want and just get through it and have a character or you can do what I do and spend two
54:55
hours just making your character I like who who just takes a template who are yeah
55:01
no it's one of those things where you're like yeah okay sure I'm I'm going to use that I'll use that just as a starting
55:08
point but then I'm G to completely change this up and if for some reason you don't want to have fungus growing out of your head you can turn the fungus
55:15
off I I'm I don't feel like that's a spoiler because it's like literally the first thing you see when you make your character is that you can have fungus
55:21
growing out of your head you don't have to you can turn the fungus off and not have to see it um I did that because it
55:27
was completely ruining my my hair deal that I had going uh but overall um so
55:32
far like it uh it didn't I think one of the things it didn't do that was a pretty good choice is they didn't do
55:38
what obsidian usually does and didn't get you shot in the head or frozen or
55:44
whatever like usually with an Oban game you come out of it really fast and it's like oh go go go this one didn't do that
55:50
this one you start your character you you wake up on a beach you're like oh why are we on a beach and then you go
55:55
from there and I think that to a certain degree it's it'll be easier for people who are not used to obsidian games to play this
56:03
um however if you get really frothing at the mouth mad when a game lets you pick uh they them as your pronouns you're
56:10
gonna hate this game because it does and quite frankly good riddens to you I don't uh but regardless the game lets
56:16
you do that uh the game lets you choose between four voices but the protagonist is not voiced uh they don't say their
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line after you choose it you just choose it and then the moves on on um yeah it's
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it's a pretty it's an obsidian Fantasy game that's what it is uh thank God it has third person so I don't make myself
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sick half the time playing it um but yeah that's it I think it's good uh I do
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think that the Early Access 5ay Early Access thing we've talked about in the pre-show I I think it's a weird choice
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but you know whatever I'm playing it now so there you go uh I don't think anyone else has anything else to say about it
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no I haven't gotten to play it I haven't picked you it's on the list it's on the list somewhere but there are so many
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things on the list the list at this point is like you know sitting in your basement going come to me come to me um
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yeah but now we move on to the site news because Liz you do the site news and usually do it now so if you don't mind
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uh yes and I I don't think we're going to have time for questions again this week I I was really going to answer some
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questions this week and I'm sorry for those of you who have submitted questions we will get to them we will
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get to them on a slow Newsweek which certainly next week will probably be a slow news week why did you say this why
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why did you do that why what be done to
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us so I just want to say thank you all for supporting the site I usually read a
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uh anything like that really helps the site and we appreciate it and we appreciate you I do want to give another
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reminder about our Tavern watch podcast which is now on its own feed it is all
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about tabletop gaming and we are going to have a new episode next week which is
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uh actually the four of us all talking about tabletop news including Fallen
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watch in your podcast player of choice and uh thank you thank you for your support all right thank you Liz um or
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used to turn to Joe here but Liz Liz handles it every week so it's great uh we can just say goodbye no this really
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good very happy if you want to do the goodbye too you can I'm totally okay oh
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gosh yeah you're you're throwing this at me no no I'm I'm just saying if that's what you want to do if you wanted to do
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it in the future go ahead I'm gonna do it now because I'm here um okay go for it this has been the blizzard wch
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sure if we can it's it's something we we we do want to say your name correctly even if it's got three cues in it uh we
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