This week's show started off with The War Within season 2. We discussed how we feel about Undermine now that we've had a week in the zone, though Liz noted the patch added a ton to do outside the zone, too. All the co-hosts are now on the record as emphatically pro jazz, and also pro Race to World First, which officially kicked off as the season did. Diablo events and why they're too short (maybe to even bother with them at all) were a hot topic this week, with the week-long Gilded Goblins event going on now, but blink and you've probably already missed it.
Also, some of us are really pumped for the Visual Novel Fest on Steam this week. Guest host Phil Ulrich named off some of his favorites, which led Liz down a rabbit hole. Everything from Hatoful Boyfriend to Coffee Talk to Boyfriend Dungeon to Monster Prom was mentioned, and lots of other titles in between. Plus, some of us have a bone to pick with a particular BAFTA nominee short list.
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hi everybody uh welcome to the Blizzard watch podcast um I'm Matt uh with me this week are not one not two but three
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fantastic people who are going to help us do this show and and basically allow me to do as little as possible uh first
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up is our special guest Phil olrick and I got his name right because I screwed it up in the pre-show hi Phil hi good
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job uh next up is Joe Perez who if I don't know his name at this point I I
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don't know what we've been doing for the past how long has it been Joe too long we're not going to talk about it is it has it been the full 10 years no it is
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it is it has been a good decade anyway uh now that Joe and I both stumble into
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the grave I will then turn to Liz and Liz is like God he's gonna mention this again but I'm not this is Liz Harper
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she's EIC of the site and say hi to every hello say hi to them too yeah
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great all right um we got news uh so we should talk about it um did season
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season two started last week didn't it or is it this week it's started today season two is now live yeah last
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week last week was patch release when the season usually starts a week or or
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if it's particularly broken two weeks after that yeah okay yeah that makes sense so the raids are out now as of
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today yeah so we've got normal heroic and Mythic plus LFR Wing one they're all out this week yep so there's none of
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that none of that you know you have to wait an extra week for Mythic and then another week for LFR um and story Mode's
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on the 11th which is next week right it's next week yes uh next week yes
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probably probably is your listening to this too yep it sorry I was say just
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real quick I just want to make sure we also note that uh they will be following the weekly uh Wing release for LFR like
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they did before so every week a new Wing will open up so this week Wing one is open next week Wing two then Wing three
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then for so they're coming out at a rapid pace which I think is great absolutely and so uh there's a note here
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that this means race to world first starts right now uh we're not going to have that extra week of people well
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they'll probably still do it they'll probably still run you know normal and heroic to get set bonuses and stuff oh
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yes oh yes they are um yeah they're still in heroic splits because there was a uh there was enough of a item level
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jump this time that stuff hug you can get outside of a raid is better than Mythic raid gear from last year so um
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they we just won't have a week where they're broadcasting themselves doing nothing but running splits which was just thrilling times that happens that's
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I I think you're being optimistic because day one has been all splits it's
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just splits splits more splits it's like John Claude vanam showed up and doesn't
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know what's happening so we got one boss down uh yeah but it's a lot of people
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running normals and heroics we as we're recording this we don't have the rid
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isent open in Europe or Asia so those folks are yet to jump in and it's I
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think I really think I enjoy watching race world first I have a lot of fun watching these players just go all out
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to get these bosses down as fast as possible but I I think I'm in for a
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little while of watching an endless chain of heroic splits hopefully
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hopefully not as many as in sephar of the first ones which was just wow we saw
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so many so many andwin splits just days and days and days of just
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killing andwin so much wonder if there were some horde guilds involved now I'm kidding um so
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while we're talking about that uh I guess blizzard put out a a little movie basically highlighting the creation of
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the raid and it's got you know from what I understand from reading the text here it's got a high energy Jazz soundtrack
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which I think is y much better than what I'm used to with raing stuff because usually it ends up being Yaky sacks from
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from can we take a moment to appreciate the music of this like this release like this patch it's amazing the the music is
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on point like I have not been able to get it out of my head and this is as somebody who I get made fun of sometimes
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in Guild for this I never play with sound and if I do play with sound I almost always have the music off after
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like the first time of experiencing it I've been playing with sound on music on
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since this patch dropped it is so good it's so different than what you expect
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from wow like you expect oh here's a new town we're gon to have generic fantasy music maybe it's got I don't know a
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kazoo in the background because goblins are wacky uh and then you know the usual you know ominous music with Latin
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chanting in the raid and there is none of that like music for um the gwick
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fight specifically uh was Data Min way ahead of time and is nothing like any
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any boss fight music we've had in this game um except maybe uh the uh except
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maybe branom and the forge of souls is like the closest thing the Wrath like it
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is this it is a high energy Jazz track that actually shifts over the four phases of the fight like the the bass
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becomes more intense the the instruments get a little more frenetic for lack of a better word over the course of the fight
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and then that extends even out into undermine which just has kind of like a cool background Jazzy soundtrack the
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whole time you're in it it's it's not it's not the normal uh blizzard Town
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music and it's and it's different for each area of the town and it's different based off of what you're doing so like
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if you're in your like Goblin racer and you're going around the music is different and the tempo's different like
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this is phenomenal the only thing that they could do that would make me happier with this is if I got an uh like an like
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an NPC that I could hire to follow me around that's a goblin with a saxophone named sax million that I just pay to
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like play a personal theme whenever I enter a room blizzard give this to me I will shove money at the screen okay I'm
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gonna have to say that whilst I'm on board with your idea of sax million he has to be a hobgoblin he has to be
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shirtless and oiled up and with a flowing with a flowing hair Always In The Wind yes and and also has to have
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various actors from the movie um you know like the Lost Boys movie just doing
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voices around him like Jason Patrick and um kefir southernland just they have to
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voice various NPCs who are there just just because it has to be that way yeah
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I'm on board with the S with the sax a million I'm fine with that that should happen Phil real quick going back to the
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the places that have that level of Music um the broker uh dungeon when you were
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in the club had that as well yep um also uh I will add the jazz music now extends
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into delves when you run into the under his theme song overrides the normal
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music oh wow wow it's it it makes me happy yeah it's they B they're batting a
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thousand on that like I was exceptionally impressed with it it makes me very very happy and like yeah
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everybody's excited about new like like R tier new loot new new everything me I'm like no this music is rad I'm good
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I'm I'm content like this feeds my soul well and speaking of feeding people's Souls uh Segways my power is
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fast um new trading post this month and I am I basically there's text in here saying that we should not read through
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the list and I get you because having me sit here read a list is not necessarily the most fun but I do think we got to
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talk about this theme butterflies lots and lots of butterflies and other
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insects and it's s like the mount alone just the mounts you can get there are
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two mounts um yeah there's the pearlescent and Ruby butterflies 700
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tendies a piece bought them both immediately and the Shimmer freerunner
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um so yeah lots of mounts and the butterflies are just gorgeous um they are real go ahead Liz you have two
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butterfly variations here and they're both great one's kind of like an iridescent pests with kind of Pale Golds
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and the other one is kind of pink red with purple silver so you've got
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butterfly wings with two seriously different Vibes and we're recording this
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on March 4th The Trading Post opened on March first I have already completed the
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entire uh series of Trading Post events for the month and I have spent all of my
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Traders tnder it's all gone I have no yeah I'm I'm rapidly rapidly behind you
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some of these were very cool I I looked at the war glaves and went maybe I should level my butter maybe I should level my Demon Hunter again as a
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butterfly this sounds fun yeah I I mean I seriously do think
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that's a really good model there's actually a bunch of models that are really good again we don't want to like sit here and have me read off a whole
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list but I will say that those the glaves he's talking about they are really really nice that it's just
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straight up just pretty really the design the wings you can get the whole thing there's a lot of really cool stuff
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here and so I that's probably enough because we do have other things to talk about but if I had the time and and I
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thought you guys would actually stick around for it I would read you everything that's coming out because
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that's who I am it the tldr is it's a very good set very on themed for Merch
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there's lots of really cool stuff there's lots of cool stuff returning uh that if wh it's very Whimsical it's very
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it's very spring like after a long winter of well I'm waving my hand in a
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gesture that you can't see because this is a an audio medium uh it's light and Airy and just colorful and I think
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that's really the important part uh so enjoy like get get some cool stuff I do
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want to add one really important point about these things is that the shoulders
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you get for completing the Traders post for the month and the purple pink variant of them that you can buy when
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you put them on you will have color coordinated butterflies fluttering around you all the time in case in casee
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that was something you needed in your game experience that is something you can get in this month's Trading Post in
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case she says just in case in case you needed this the world I look out the
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window and what the world is out there screaming and you know Fountains of blood and Flames everywhere and you're like in case I needed colorful
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butterflies following me around okay uh but anyway now let's talk about the next
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thing on the list which is that we've basically had undermine for a week um how you guys feel about it how are you
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guys enjoying undermine so far you you probably haven't raided yet um because today is Tuesday so tomorrow yeah so of
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the stuff you've seen and done what what you know highlights just throw some stuff at us how do you like it is the
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car fun or does it make you seasick are you feeling the Jazz I think we've established that you're all feeling the
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Jazz great I was on the fence of whether or not I was going to like the car I'm going to be honest like I thought it was
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a really cool concept uh they did a really good job especially with the ability to make it slightly slower but
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higher acceleration so that you can like adjust the speed a little bit giving you a little bit of customization I like it
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and I like getting around the Zone in it because I think it makes the zone is is very welld designed for it for the most
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part there are a couple Pockets where you're going to hit a wall and bounce off of it this is inevitable just accept your fate the head-on collision of a
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goblin vehicle is just inevitable um but it I think it really is a lot of fun I
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think they did a lot of good good stuff with the NPCs uh I think they did a lot of good job with the zones in general
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like each area of the city my only gripe is that I wish the zones had a bit more
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of a color palette swapped between them M because everything is very syy which
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okay I can understand we're in the undermine we're we're under we're L literal Cavern underground uh but it's
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one of those things where I look at it's like I kind of wish like the downtown area was a little more neon and I wish
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that the you know like I think the The Chemical Works area is probably the best out of them as far as differentiating
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itself but everything else is kind of like same color palette of Grays and reds and stuff like that's my only gripe
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with it whatsoever everything else phenomenal you're saying that in an expansion where they've put multiple
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zones underground and didn't make any of them look the samey they've created a zone that looks samey not not overly but
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enough go to its credit it doesn't look like any of the other zones in calar but yeah Jo's right it's got a it's got a
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very yellow green red color palette and like the most you get is like you go to visit the um go to visit the steam
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Weedle and you get really green because they've got a bunch of slime or you go to the heaps uh the kind of venture
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company dark fused faired kind of area very orang it's very yellow yeah it's
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like weirdly colored but then like a lot of the rest of uh you know hob Hill
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Venture wood the center of town they all look really alike um I I do agree that is one thing that could have been
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improved I'm okay with the car um I griped about the car a bit when it first came out it felt kind of UN necessary to
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require the you know to use the car to get around I realized what I didn't really like was that first few days of undermind when it had phenomenal amounts
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of lag it was the sludgy best to do anything um driving was bad at that time
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um but like it it like Joe said the ability to lower your top speed right off the bat like they don't make you go
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out and earn that or find it like it's an option from the jump is very good um
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I've recently acquired the ability to make the tires uh with engineering that increase your grip while drifting um I
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can now drift in a straight line basically which is phenomenal um yeah it's it it it's
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gotten better as I've gotten used to it my my knee-jerk reaction was that I didn't like it but again I think that was largely down to technical problems
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around undermine um I think it's a really cool City I've enjoyed the variety of activities that they had to
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do like yeah it's more weekly stuff to do but none of it really feels like the stuff we already had in kazalar continues to be different um and you're
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running into there are so many goblin NPCs that if there's a goblin NPC that
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you interacted with in a quest um outside of uh the Zeppelin uh lady in
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oramar who tries to invite you to the Jungle with her and also boss MAA I think you'll probably run into them
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somewhere in undermine oh yeah almost including one from uh season of
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Discovery who would sell people their tier one and two sets for tarnished undermine ra um you can still find a
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very old tarnished undermine real and she's hanging out uh in the port of Authority now and is like I haven't seen one of these in ages let me give you a
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shirt and basically tra he trades you a shirt that's been in the game forever
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dat of mind but never actually released it's a new purple shirt U that I am wearing on my warlock right now okay um
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un let anyone else has anything else to talk about that Liz Liz did you have something yeah uh you know it's it's
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weird because I've actually spent more time out of undermine than in undermine like
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because wizard upped the level of rewards throughout the game and has
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upped the level of rewards for like World quests and I'm playing a character that is a new alt that's a little
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undergeared so it's like I've spent a lot of time doing that and I've been trying to get through the undermine story Quest I have to say my very
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favorite thing about undermine is yeah you're underground you know what it's like it's it's a giant cave full of
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goblins but if you look up someone has taken the time to make fluffy white
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clouds that are made of like cardboard or something and hang them throughout
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the Zone I I appreciate this attention to detail to making the undermine a more
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friendly livable place if you uh if you look up at night too they also have little spotlights scattered among the
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clouds that they turn on as stars when it's night time of course of course just like yeah never let it be said that just
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because the Goblins live in a cave it doesn't have to feel home least homie for them yep but I want to move on now to talk
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about some wow classic stuff specifically uh season of discovery which is getting phase eight which they
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had said before they weren't going to do phase eight uh but they're doing it um and phase eight is supposedly going to
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be the last phase and it's going to include the Scarlet Enclave raid and if you're thinking what's the Scarlet
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Enclave raid it is a new raid entirely new yeah being introduced in season of
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Discovery you get through NEX Ras and then there's more raid to come and it's different raid than you've ever heard of
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um uhhuh so that's happening and I wanted to briefly throw that one out to you guys how do you feel about them
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putting an entire new raid in season of Discovery uh we'll go with Joe first I
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gu surprised it took this long like like legitimately we we've talked about this before it's become its own game I'm a
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okay with this uh I'm surprised it took them this long to add a you know
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original raid to it so hey thumbs up people will enjoy it okay uh Liz last
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phase they did add Kazan Crips which was a new dungeon of course Kazan Crips have been in the game since the beginning but
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it was never a dungeon it was never even a place you were supposed to be able to get to so they've started adding new
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content season of Discovery kind of has a bit of a an identity crisis it didn't know okay is this classic wow is this
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WOW plus is the you know it's been figuring itself out and as it's gone
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it's leaned more and more into original content at first it's kind of it's tweaking things you can get new
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abilities that might look like things you've seen in modern wow or things other classes might usually have but
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it's kept evolving over all this time and that's according to the developers
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that feels like that's kind of why they wanted to do another phase it's like we've kept evolving it's been really fun
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and we decided we're just we're going to keep going one of the things I find interesting about this is that the
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season the Scarlet en is a 20 player raid but you can bring up to 40 in you can so you can bring an old
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school wow size raid or you can go with 20 like like they did in uh zul grub
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back in the day and I'm interested to see how they how this plays out how many
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like how many guilds are going to be doing it in 20 in 20 player groups how many are going to take the whole 40 in
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the thing is apparently neither the difficulty nor the loot rewards will will scale it's just that there the same
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amount of stuff will drop and be the same stuff it's just that now you have 40 people trying to get instead of 20 um
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which I could see pros and cons on it you know Pros a lot easier to stomp something down if it's tuned for 20 people and you have twice that twice as
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many um KH I wanted that sword but you gave it to her you know so yay more loot
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drama but uh what little lore I know about this like have you guys uh Phil since you hadn't got to talk yet have
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you heard anything about what exactly they're doing here like what the what the lore of this is any ideas I don't
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know a lot about the L but I do know where it's physically located and what it is um also I want to say I will say I
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think this is cool because this is kind of a natural progression uh C's encrypts is actually the second new dungeon um in
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this uh in season of Discovery because they had um demon Fall Canyon out in the blast PL yeah you're right you're right
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um this is the same place that the death Knights uh Target in the Old Death
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Knight starting uh scenario it's it's it's that onclave yeah it's out on the East End of the plague land you can
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actually you actually like walk up to it now there there was nothing there on classic there was a big gate and it was closed um you can walk up to it on
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season Discovery and you can see where the gate is and there's an invisible wall that stops you from going any further so it's uh people are guessing
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there's going to be like with demon Fall Canyon you had to like have a trinket equipped to make the gate appear and then you can walk in um kind of a sort
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of a classic Attunement light um people are guessing there's going to be something similar back there but it's uh
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you know it's where the Scarlet Crusade were're H holding up out there on the East uh you know yeah where the boat the
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boat that you on and kill cannons and and yeah where they eventually took off
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to northren to form the Scarlet Onslaught um yeah so this is the I guess
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would be since since it almost seems like they're establishing That season of Discovery is like the past of retail at
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this point with NPCs and things appearing in the in in retail and referring to things in seed of Discovery
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as the past this seems like you know the Scarlet Enclave prior to wrath so I
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don't know a lot about why back there I imagine we'll find out once we get into it but um there is an NPC right now who
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kind of leads you on a breadcrumb in that direction but it drops off where you can get in right now um Leonid
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Bartholomew the revered in um oh hey Leonid I remember him yeah yeah the the
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undead guy who hangs out with the origin Dawn out one UND guy um he is he's basically
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saying yeah we're allied with the Scarlets but I don't trust them and they're up to something Shifty behind that wall um why don't you go keep an
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eye on them and like you go out there and you report on them and then you come back and he's like yep the sh are Shifty I'll look into it and get back to you
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that's kind of where it's kind of where it ends right now before phase eight starts that's something I'm really
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excited to see them doing I find myself wondering if we're going to see more of it in season of Discovery if if we know
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that the season of Discovery um Realms are staying up after this phase un
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unlike uh wow I'm blanking on what the last season was called master season of Mastery when that that ended they rolled
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those characters into classic era servers but this is going to stay a
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season of discovery which I think is very cool because it means you can still jump into season of Discovery like
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leveling is super fast there's a ton of content there's a ton of content that is different from stuff in classic and you
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can go and experience all of that it's not going away it's going to stay there and all of your characters will stay
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there to keep doing things or run alts or whatever you want so that's cool all
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right um anybody else want to say anything else about this before we move on okay uh Diablo 4 I got seven emails
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from blizzard just on this I think somebody knows I like treasure goblins
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because I've got so many emails telling me about the quote unquote March Of the Goblins um and meanwhile we have the
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guided Goblin gilded sorry is it gilded or gu yeah it's gilded uh gilded Goblin event from March 4th which is today as
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we're filming I'm recording I guess uh filming go God cameras uh no today is
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recording and it goes to the 11th which is next Tuesday so yeah it's up for it's up for a
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week can I just can I just read this bit because it's really six new types of treasure goblins and they're staying
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after the event ends okay go ahead Liz I I feel like Diablo events Diablo 4
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events are frequently very short we had a week of Mother's blessing and now we're having a week of goblins
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though the Goblins the Goblins are going to stick around but the event is going to end see if they kept the event going
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longer Seasons might start to feel better yeah and we can't have that yeah
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but the thing is the event also has a reputation track that you can uh work through by you know hunting down goblins
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but it only lasts a week I was born for this it's it lasts a week and it's like
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there's a lot happening out in the world you guys I I got a I got a raid night to
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attend I've got I've got stuff to do this week and now I also need to make time to jump into uh Diablo 4 because
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this this is a super limited time event I I'm feeling like some of these Diablo
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events are so short it almost feels like it's not worth jumping in to do the
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event does that make sense yeah absolutely because it's like oh oh I have a few hours to play but I'm not
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going to be able to get anywhere I'm not going to be able to finish this Renown track why bother I know how hard the
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Renown track is though because remember the uh yeah the new year one they did where it was like super easy to get the
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Renown up see I did not feel like it was super easy to do the Lunar New Year One this this year even though they kind of
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made it easier but it's like I I don't know events just feel a
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little too short it makes for a kind of choppy experience it feels like they're trying to run a lot of events it feels
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like They're bringing back mother's blessing pretty frequently but you know we're jumping from event to event and
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nothing sticks around long enough to really be able to dig into it I mean
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maybe they're just trying to keep people from getting bored so there's a new something to do every week but it's like
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man I don't know how I'm even going to make time to do this Goblin stuff this week and killing lots of treasure
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goblins that is super up my alley it's basically the the Diablo game mode I
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would wish existed like just one where I could just log in and be killing treasure goblins Phil you were trying to
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talk though and I walked over you so mat Matt just wants season of goblins like would yeah yeah they had one in Diablo I
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and I was super happy with it I I really wish they would keep some of these events around for a longer time because
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I barely remember that they're beginning and by the time I remember they're beginning they're over and it's this is
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way too short for an event like they I get maybe they're also trying not to step too heavily on the toes of their
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seasonal events but most of them the seasonal gameplay most of them play nicely together let your events run for two weeks guys it's not it's not it's
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not bad yes I agree um anybody else before you move on to the next bit well
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we should probably say what the different goblins are because there are there are a lot of new goblins out there
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and they've basically completely stolen all of them from Diablo 3 which I I don't really object to that because
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Diablo II was great and over time we've seen Diablo 4 picking up more things
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from Diablo I to to the game's Improvement I feel yeah I do think
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you're right though I mean we've got the odius exor who is basically like an ectoplasmic treasure Goblin um similar
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to the oo ones um we got the Gilded Baron who is just full of gold go ahead
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Liz each Goblin will drop you know different types of stuff so the Odus ector will be dropping crafting
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materials and obesite so to help you Masterwork to help you make stuff it's going to be that's the one you want to
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look for but I mean frankly if I see a treasure Goblin of any appearance for color I'm gonna run after it and kill it
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yep um I also want to just read some of the names here because the glittering pyrim or PR I'm not sure if that's Prim
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or pyrim because it's an r and a y but sometimes things pronounce weird but that's a goblin that is you know made out of gems essentially it's got runes
27:22
and tributes and all sorts of stuff it's really cool um but then there's the one I like the most is just the Curious Merl
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and Merl is spelled m urur l and I mean I'm getting heavy murlock Vibes off this
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thing uh just gonna say it and then we've got the gelatinous Cyrus um again
27:41
very similar to the old Uzi deal uh this one I think it even drops like yeah it drops a legendary item and an increased
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chance of dropping additional legendary items at higher torment tiers gold boss summoning materials and a chance for an
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Elixir and then there's the fancy old fedick who a goblin like looks he's wearing a big hat like I can't tell from
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this image he is the rarest type of treasure Goblin because he will drop a Mythic
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unique and a resplendant spark which is that's that's that's big deal and then
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you see go ahead if you see a goblin and a hat you drop everything you want to
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kill that Goblin even more than you usually want to kill a treasure Goblin yeah so let the hate flow through you um
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just just charge this thing and kill it do whatever it takes you have to have small children come in and play for you
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I don't care but kill him um but yeah it's there's there's ranks of for rewards and all that stuff too we
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already talked about the rep thing so yeah lots of goblins I'm perfectly happy about this I like goblins specifically
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to kill them um which doesn't really sound like I like them but no I really do um but it's a video game thing so uh
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also however this week um as we're recording it will probably have just happened uh we're going to get a
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campfire chat to talk about the midseason patch and what's going on with that um I since they haven't done it yet
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that's about all I can say yeah I mean it's it's G to be on Friday so probably
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about the time you hear this it will be happening and uh we'll probably get a new PTR we'll probably get some we'll be
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getting stuff we'll talk more about it next week yes when we know what it is yeah unfortunately we don't actually
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have a chronovisor we can't into and go aha that's what it's going to be but Diablo I's got its latter season
29:32
resetting um for season 10 that's going to be March 7th in the US um so March 8th in some parts of the EU um and so
29:41
forth it's literally all happening at the same time it just releasing globally so that'll be happening uh so that's it
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for Diablo I really I mean anything else you guys have to say about Diablo 2 Getting It season or as we just Diablo
29:54
Diablo I is kind of on Rails right now you know they they do their seasonal reset and then they do another season reset at
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the at the very beginning of Diablo I resurrected they would they would add
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things with seasons and they they've kind of given up on that it's just a latter season race okay um we got some
30:13
other games to talk about really fast uh I'm not we don't have to hurry um I
30:19
first of the bafta award I wanted to mention because it interests me that we've got evolving game uh and the cat
30:26
nominations for evolving game of course to this include Diablo I World of Warcraft vampire survivors no man's Sky
30:33
Final Fantasy 14 and sea of Thieves and I just find that this an interesting concept for bafta because it kind of is
30:41
it's acknowledging the fact that gaming is kind of changed where there are games now that just keep going and keep
30:48
changing and keep adding stuff um I think think of some games that should be on this list quite frankly that that did
30:54
make it I was going to say like that that's my only gripe with this like I really like the idea of it but like I'm looking at this and as much as I love
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World of Warcraft and I love World of Warcraft it's an MMO it doesn't need to be on this list Final Fantasy 14 had
31:07
probably one of the the the biggest comeback stories of all time but it's been so long that I don't know that it
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should even be on this list anymore and like there like no man's Sky kind of in that same category but like why isn't
31:19
cyberpunk on here is it because it's no longer in development uh is that the is that the criteria for it like I'm asking
31:26
you because I like all I I don't know if they mentioned anything about that I do not know anything but I would assume
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this is I would assume this is for evolving over the past year would be my assumption or evolving over 2024 but did
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World of Warcraft really evolve over 2024 did CF thieves really evolve over 2024 did Final Fantasy 14 like that's
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that's the thing that I'm having a hard time reconciling Diablo 4 yeah I could see I could see where they've they've been working on B but out of everything
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on this list Diablo 4 is the one I would throw in the trash I think but go ahead
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Phil you were going to say something but like I I say Evolution doesn't have to be positive um I don't know I think I
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before no no no shade to vampire survivors fans I know you exist but I
32:13
think vampire survivors is the one I would absolutely not have on this list like yeah I had some DLC okay vampire survivors is one of
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those games that it has a niche and it fills that Niche pretty well but if you're not into that Niche then you
32:26
don't want to be involved with it I don't know how else to put it SE of Thieves sea of Thieves is one of those
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games where it's only evolved by virtue of being the Pirate game that survived
32:36
um doing a good job at it no man's Sky really no man's Sky really needs a bathtu that's like the lifetime achievement for evolving your game
32:43
because yeah I would agree they Tak they've taken it so far from where it started yeah I think I think the problem
32:49
is we don't have enough criteria to know what they're basing this off of cuz like it just feels like these are all just
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games that are existing and congratulations you've survived and this is why you're in the running for it cuz that's that's what it feels
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like like Matt said congratulations see thieves is the the Pirro game that lived and he's right but like yeah and it's
33:09
you know it's not its fault you know it delivered a a gameplay experience people
33:14
wanted it hasn't really changed that experience so much as it's just refined it by adding in new stuff yeah but
33:21
sometimes that's enough and Diablo 4 is one of those ones that like I I really don't think should be on here even even as a constantly evolving game
33:28
because and again I love the the expansion we've talked about it we have multiple podcasts on the expansion it
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didn't do anything groundbreaking it didn't really evolve the genre and there are other games in that genre that are
33:43
evolving it right so like I guess I guess we don't know the criteria that that irritates me I don't like not
33:48
knowing things well plus I will also say in terms of Diablo 4 one of the things that seems weird about it being there is
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it is basically an MMO it it is you're you're online with other people you you
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group with them there's even a group find finder now uh it's basically an extremely solo friendly MMO if you're G
34:07
to take a Diablo MMO property and put it on the evolving list it should be Diablo
34:12
Immortal I mean do you know what also does that Path of Exile Path of Exile too is literally the same thing at this point when it comes to you you go into a
34:19
town there's a ton of players you can go do stuff you can encounter it's a little less encounter people in the wild but
34:25
like still it still has a very similar feel to in my opinion to Diablo 4 because the times that I've played
34:31
Diablo 4 the only time I've ever encountered other players in the last entire time I played the expansion uh
34:37
was when I was in a town that's it when the game first released they were everywh I don't know I I run into people
34:42
when I play but I think it's because I am I am a chaos magnet weird stuff happens go ahead l i do wonder if is
34:49
having a battle pass just enough to get you an evolving game thing because that's what a lot of Diablo 4 feels like
34:55
it comes out with a new battle pass every month sorry not every month every three months and are are there battle
35:03
passes with the events too maybe no no there I there are there are reputation
35:09
tracks with the events um and it's every three months it gives out a little trickle of content and I will say
35:15
they've evolved gameplay quite a bit over the last year in ways that are positive but in ways that feel like okay
35:23
we're kind of getting to the stage of a game that we should have launched originally
35:29
which I that is good that is positive but I don't feel like the game has made it doesn't feel like it's
35:36
developing a huge amount and I will say uh Anna and chat has mentioned just so we can correct this in real time CF
35:43
thieves added a non-pvp is mode last year and did a major overhaul a few months ago so it's allowed to be on this
35:49
list so that's okay and I am I am glad to see World of Warcraft on this list
35:55
because I know it's an MMO it's designed to create ongoing content but blizzard
36:01
has over the past couple of years really been knocking it out of the park as far as rolling out ongoing content we are
36:08
not having big gaps where there's nothing to do if anything we have too much to do because content rolls out
36:15
very rapidly we have a patch every two months like clockwork and each patch has
36:21
something interesting to do it's not like a patch is like okay here's 15 minutes of story and now you can run the
36:27
battle pass it's patches have story they have new game mechanics they have new quests they have new zones there is
36:35
something new and exciting to do every patch and the World of Warcraft developers have been killing it whether
36:41
you super enjoy the expansion or not I don't think you can argue that they have been really good at getting out content
36:48
on a schedule so you always have something to do and that they're regularly new things to do and new things to engage with I think it's been
36:54
doing a great job I don't know if it's the winner on this list but I think it's
36:59
been doing a great job of ongoing content yeah the the blizzard of nowadays is the blizzard that is finally
37:05
hitting the Cadence that they were saying they wanted to hit in cataclysm yeah yeah cat cataclysm how was that how
37:13
did that work out well I mean cataclysm itself is the whole thing but I remember there were
37:18
there were talks that they were talking I want to say at BlizzCon that the year cataclysm was announced that they wanted
37:24
to hit a 2-year patch Cadence and they didn't want to have these big LS in content and then miss to pandara
37:30
happening so clearly they didn't the end of Miss happen clearly they didn't get there they got there eventually but it's
37:35
been within like the past two two expansions um yeah I said I don't know I don't know if they necessarily should
37:41
win but I do think they have changed how they produce the game which maybe that's enough again I would love to know what
37:48
the criteria is yeah no maybe they'll tell us that the PA does but saying the
37:54
last two expansions that's kind of saying the last three years or so two or three years so they've developed a track
38:02
record of continuing content at this point okay um I'm going to move us on just because it is my job uh I don't
38:09
know anything about this but maybe you guys will talk about it a lot so that I will have time to like drink this liquid
38:15
uh is visual novel week on Steam with many excellent sales on fun narrative games including I was a teenage exoc
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exoc colist so go ahead whoever wrote this in here and talk about these things come on one of you wrote
38:28
this this it wasn't me I I wrote it but I know I know you also have things to
38:35
say about I was a teenage exoc colonist I mean I feel like Vis visual novels kind of get maybe a bad rap in gaming
38:43
because it's like a games it is a shame there are some great visual novels out
38:48
there tell great stories not even within the gaming industry like they it's been the running I'm going to point the
38:54
finger here at that KFC dating Sim which again was just kind of the the joke ho ho ho these weirdos will date The
39:00
Colonel on their computer uh we had a rather spirited discussion in
39:07
uh abely Discord uh where um Rob
39:12
Flanigan cracked a joke about their visual novels that aren't just
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porn and then people started signing in in the morning to find 300 messages where we listed good visual novels and
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visual novel like games that should be checked out um so yeah this is this is a
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uh and I'm not going to deny that those kind of games exist I mean if you log in you'll probably get them recommended to you on Steam amongst the good ones but
39:39
like it's a it's a genre that gets a bad rap and I think undeservedly so because
39:44
there is a lot of good especially people who like games with good storytelling like this is the genre it's literally
39:51
telling you a story it's it it's it's good this is good and yes uh we will
39:57
once skin plug I was a teenage exic colonist which is basically a visual novel with a light card game/ card
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collecting element uh to uh give you some more gameplay in there U I'm also
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just going to flip real quick through here and uh point out that the Phoenix R Ace aternity Ace Attorney Trilogy is
40:15
again on sale as part of this event too and surprise those are visual novels uh people with the s's may not have
40:21
realized they were playing one it's kind of like like I like I I have a severe love for like the monster prom series uh
40:28
those are visual novels and those are that the hill I will die on is those are good
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games and you said uh the steinsgate uh series is on here if you like weird time travel sci-fi stuff there is a
40:40
steinsgate bundle along with a bunch of other games in that whole series um if you want this is also visual novels are
40:48
also one of the games one of the series where you are most likely to get games where you have female protagonists where you have protagonists where you have uh
40:56
stories that don't Center CIS hat people and their stories um and like
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celebrating that I think is worth doing and for that reason alone uh visual
41:07
novels support them also a lot of these are going to be Indie developers they're not going to be people be people who
41:13
necessarily are working for you know uh big corporations where they're going to grind out a visual novel and then get
41:18
fired before you know whether it makes billions of dollars or not like these are some of them are don't get me wrong
41:24
but a lot had to talk about that earlier today yeah yeah a lot of these will be smaller developers there are some that
41:30
are free to play there are you know your there's all kinds of games in this other
41:36
than just oh here's something here's something horny to to like that's not
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all there is to it and uh Hey dream daddy I'll I'll step off my
41:46
Sox dream daddy is in this um yeah dream daddy or my wife calls it the game that
41:53
has a lot of mes in it for people because there's a lot of hairy dudes that look a lot like me there's a lot of
41:58
bears yeah and that's not bad it's a nice little dating Sim people get like
42:03
so weird about these things too because it's like you you played all the Mass Effect games and you talk constantly
42:08
about who you dated and that that's a dating well it's like the people that talked on on like uh romance novels is
42:14
not being real literature yeah I guess um I I have been scrolling through these
42:19
and one of them is called uh a summer with the Sheba enu and it is just all of
42:26
the characters are dogs wearing like sweaters and things just they've they've
42:31
like photoshopped human clothes onto these dogs and I I don't know what this
42:37
is about I don't know anything about it other than that man I I want to play
42:42
in yeah and you know Joe as Joe mentioned monster prom is right there that's a good one monster prom is right
42:48
there also $3 on sale so it's all good
42:53
it's it's an easy what's really interesting too guys is I'm gon to kind of break the minds of a lot of people
42:59
who Who Loved this game uh disco alium oh it's a virtual novel it is not an RPG
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there's practically no rpging in it it's a virtual novel it is a story being told to you through the method of a game
43:12
that's what it is so yeah go ahead you know tell us how oh oh another one for you torment tides of num Manera is a
43:18
virtual novel but that's the spiritual successor of plcape Torment I'm aware of that and quite frankly plcape torment is
43:25
basically a virtual novel even though that has the combat engine in it it's not a game about fighting it's a game
43:31
about a story so yeah um these there's a lot more you buy go ahead you can buy
43:36
all of the Monster prom games for $15 worth worth and uh and I will Echo I
43:42
will Echo Anna in chat boyfriend dungeon does also slap it does it slaps and it
43:48
shops slop yeah literally yeah we've talked about this
43:54
and that's good and proper and now we should probably talk about the fact that b Gate 3 modders are going even crazier
43:59
um now have terce fall Glades in BG someone made terce fall Glades in bers
44:05
you know you give you give people modding tools and it's just fascinating to see where it'll go from there because
44:12
it can go anywhere and in this case it's going to recreate world Warcraft zones in in balers Gate 3 because you can
44:20
don't ask why there is no reason why it's because you can do it well and the thing is like it's not just a mod it's
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an entire campaign for balers Gate 3 it's an entire RPG campaign located in
44:34
tius Fall Glades because of course it is yeah they've also they're currently working on a h you know somebody's
44:39
working as a mod that does the actual castle of strad the original castle of strad I
44:46
know for a fact there's some weird mods in ball Gate 3 because I downloaded one that basically makes you a Kryptonian
44:53
you roll a human you add this mod now you're a Kryptonian you fly you can shoot lasers out of your eyes you take
45:00
practically no damage um it it really changes the game like they're like you have to go over there through this
45:05
monster in this Darkness en crusted forest and find out the secret and it's like yeah I'm just gonna fly
45:12
over it's not I would't it's not worth playing the game like this because the game just becomes you know very powerful
45:18
stranger just fixes everyone's problems but it's still hilarious to fly because
45:24
the game does not have the rigging for that like if you you've ever used the flight spell in ball Gate 3 you know the game does not really know what to do
45:30
with it so it's hilarious to fly places because you have the flight spell but you don't land you just stay in the air
45:37
and the game is just just going I don't what's he he's supposed to be on the why isn't he on the ground oh that's
45:42
interesting cuz flight the flying animation looks like it's like uh it's it's like one slightly angled leg from
45:48
just T posing through the sky and is basically what you're doing yeah it is messed up and they're not and they're
45:54
not just importing like that like element of stuff like that they're also importing wholesale new like classes too
46:01
cuz the wow Paladin is now a mod in balers Gate 3 and oh yeah oh yeah is far
46:07
superior than the implementation of Paladin in balers Gate 3 just throwing it out there it's also a little bit
46:13
better than the implementation of Paladin in World of Warcraft to be completely honest with you yeah modders
46:18
modders have really taken the modding toolkit uh really really far and I'm really hoping that maybe like this was
46:24
done without I guess the final version of whatever is coming in the in the
46:30
final final Final patch uh but I'm really hoping that maybe this is like maybe we'll see some kind of even a
46:36
third party campaign creation tool all Neverwinter Nights that would be a fantastic way to cap Never winter nights
46:43
just got an official campaign in 2025 what year is it yeah and they're
46:50
getting another there there's they're currently it's not even beam dog doing it at this point beam dog is publishing
46:56
it but it's another company that's been making them that they're having two campaigns come out one's out like right
47:02
now and another's coming out in a few months and again I'm gonna repeat to you that it's
47:07
2025 covid was five years ago no that sounds F oh oh yeah so so yeah that's
47:14
happening we're getting more originals I I do want to add a the okay
47:21
I'm I'm going backwards another another great one on the steam visual novel sale at Coffee Talk yeah is real good it's
47:29
it's basically a a coffee shop Sim where you make coffee for people and and you
47:35
talk and the people are uh it's kind of a fantasy Seattle
47:41
yeah is vampire therapist on there I know Liz talked about that one in a prior uh Vamp I do not see vampire
47:48
therapist on sale but it is another very strange game and visual novel uh chicken
47:55
police is on here which is you know when Noir drama where you worry chicken I I
48:00
have some I have some like radar for finding games where you I was gonna say you I know I don't
48:08
know have you ever played hatful boyfriend I was just gonna say have had aul boyfriends on this I have I have
48:15
indeed played had aul boyfriend and it is magnificent so I you should all play hatful boyfriend because of what Liz
48:22
just did my brain is trying desperately to force me to sing Karma Police uh but with chicken detective in it instead or
48:29
chicken police chicken police would Peck this man it's just like you know no I
48:36
made myself stop but you still heard a couple seconds of it um yeah this just I
48:43
gotta move forward I gotta or otherwise we're gonna be stuck yeah that's that's the problem we're
48:48
gonna anyway I will also say really quickly um we're talking about mods uh I
48:54
like I I said last week I've been playing a vow I still been playing a vow um one of the mess messed up and interesting things about AOW is it
49:00
already has mods a lot of them I'm not Sur not a lot of them compared to games that are you know a year or two old but
49:07
it's got like 50 60 mods on Nexus mods Alone um yeah and a lot of them are just horrible you know you know get you know
49:13
you can get stronger you can get more more active points or whatever one of them is a one of them is a complete
49:19
visual revision of the game yeah that changes it its entire graphical structure same thing happened with outer
49:25
worlds as soon as it Rel releas as well there was an NEX there was an Nexus mod that did a complete visual overhaul of the game like immediately it was it was
49:33
surprising all right well so now we're gonna move on but first uh Liz uh usually you have you have the site news
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thank you so much for being here thank you for supporting us thank you for reading that for us Liz um because I I
52:34
couldn't have done it uh Joe uh you you're taking the reading of the questions this week so I am and I'm
52:40
starting with the one that I wanted to answer for like a couple weeks now because this is big to me uh this is
52:47
from MTH not counting Ashi looking at Rossy what weapon or armor or special
52:53
something do you want to be able to put up in your wow home and on the opposite end what would be the thing that you put
53:00
up only to make your partner happy um I can tell you right now mine is rock doar
53:07
rock doar is the greatest questing experience that I have ever had in an
53:13
MMO and I've played a lot of MMOs and at the time because I did it at level with
53:20
the vanilla Community uh it was a really interesting experience that holds
53:26
special place in my heart because it involved the entire server Community because you had to coordinate with other
53:32
people to not poach somebody else's or to keep the other faction from killing the thing so that you could actually get
53:37
your stuff like it was a CommunityWide event that people were constantly on
53:43
ventrillo and TeamSpeak like coordinating so that every Hunter on the server could get their their their
53:50
special bow when they got the drop for it I want to put that up in that house so badly as as a reminder of just I mean
53:58
honestly it's the bow that I I transmog my hunter's weapon into almost every single time regardless of the armor set
54:05
because it's such a special weapon to me I have never had an attachment to pixels as strong as that dang thing and as far
54:12
as putting something up to to make my partner happy uh it would probably be going back to the original dwarf totems
54:19
H because uh them and I that's when we first really started talking was when
54:25
dwarves were able to be uh Shaman for the first time and I actually still have
54:30
the artwork uh that they made for me and sent me which is literally just a ball
54:37
of random stuff uh with my dwarf Shaman inside of it and a whole bunch of totems
54:42
rolling around inside of like cataclysm uh so like it's like Super Monkey Ball but exactly exactly so like it holds a
54:50
special place in my heart uh and I think it would be a a nice thing to have on display so who's next Hopey sh
54:56
Liz I mean this is a hard one I don't I don't have an attachment like that to any specific thing in the game uh if hm
55:07
like gear wise it's just you know things catch my eye and they come and they go
55:13
so I I'm not super drawn to something like that one thing I I am playing a
55:18
gnome again this season and you know my very first character in World of
55:24
Warcraft was a gnome warlock so I do do have I have a slight attachment there
55:29
you know I I hope Maybe not immediately but I hope at some point in the future we're going to have more options for
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houses it at least the concept art we've seen has been you know kind of you know alliy and
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hordy I would love to have a gnome style house with all of the weird gnome things and like a radar dish on the roof and
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just go all in on like your weird gnomish Village kind of fantasy so I
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that's that's where I would put the style I would not necessarily a specific thing but kind of this flavor of being
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this character this person that you have embodied over the years and how do you
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take that and make that into a home that feels right for them all right Phil uh I
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want to take the uh demonology warlock off hand from Legion and let him fly
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around the house instead of following me for a while uh babbling about how we're going to attack his former can in this conflict I'm like oh FAL kill you're so
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outdated my dude we we're not in Legion anymore we're he most recently uh
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randomly chose that line when we were uh pressuring goblins into attending a wedding undermine has some Wild Side
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Quests um so it's just like I just want to let the guy retire by floating around
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my house he needs it and Matt Ashi
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[Laughter] You Don't Own Me what what what answer do you want if
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you don't want Ashi you why even ask me if you but don't say Ashi well then why
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bother are you allowed to say the HD remas of Ash Candi from the last oh my God no I was GNA I was going to say I
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think the intention wasn't that you're not allowed to have Ash Kandi I think the intention is that everybody knows you're already going to have Ashi so
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what with Ashi I'll tell you exactly what with because here's a here's a a little diversionary
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story from the olden days uh I don't know like if most Wild players remember this uh I the people here all do I'm
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sure but there was a period of time where the people if you weren't rating in vanilla wow the coolest armor you
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could get was dungeon set one um and dungeon set one for warriors was The Valor Set uh I had the Valor set because
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you know I Wasing a lot of wow so I just ended up getting it but they brought out during a patch that they put out the a
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what they call tier point0 0.5 and in the case of Warriors it was
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essentially the best DPS set you could get before running Blackwing Lair and on carage like this was the set you got to
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run those those raids it was just better than the stuff in uh Molton core it was
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better than a lot of the of the Blackwing Lair stuff um just the the final end stuff it wasn't better than
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but a lot of the black wi ly stuff was tank oriented so you just have to get what you could and this I was the first
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person Alliant side on my server I think it was at the time it was Asal and Arab I was the first person to get this
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because I did all the quests and I I had the keys to get into Blackwing like Blackwing uh not Blackwing Upper Black
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Rock Spire and do all the stuff you needed to do to get this set it was very
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complicated and I would have have that I still have that set in the bank on that character like I still got all of of the
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heroism set it's a slightly shinier version of Valor it's prettier uh but
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it's otherwise still basically just the Valor I and I have both of them because I went out and reot because the Valor
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pieces were consumed in the making of the heroism pieces so I went out and then ground out Valor again just so I
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would have it I have both of them and I would want to put them on Dummies on
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either side of the Ashi display which would also have sulfur us and the obsidian Edge blade
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and a few other weapons I used during vanilla classic because to me that's
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like to me the game is forever that period of time even as it's changed and other stuff's come out and there's
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plenty of looks I like better I in my little you know I withered up little heart I remember those raids I remember
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learning how to tank a raid boss you know I remember going into Blackwing lir
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and fighting nefarian and and tanking with the warrior debuff so I had to like I'm trying to keep aggro on him in Fury
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all of a sudden uh using a shield and a sword it's like I got nothing I have nothing I can do to keep him over here
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just all that so that's what I would want to have I would want to have like a bunch of different stuff uh zenrock not
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not zenrock zenrock not zenrock zenrock comes later but Jrock um the obsidian
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Edge blade uh you know Destroyer end sulfuro Ashi candor's Revenge those
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those would all be in between those two sets of armor because that's what I want the most most of the time uh in in when
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I was playing in original World of Warcraft probably put the uh Battle Gear of of Wrath up there too because I
1:00:35
tanked in that I tanked a lot in that I was so I was I was constantly the guy wandering around with the gigantic axe
1:00:42
blade on my head and two more on my shoulders because you know that's that's the set I got I didn't get I don't think
1:00:48
I got a single piece of tier of tier three it just never got any uh we were in KNX Romas but there were so many
1:00:54
people trying to get it and most multiple classes shared you know ways the tokens to get it and I never I just
1:01:00
never saw any of it I tanked that entire raid up to uh saffron yeah um I tagged I
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tanked up to him being Mr Frozen Dragon himself uh in Wrath I never got the the
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the tier three so that would be what I would have and as for my wife I would have a bunch of skeletons of dinosaurs
1:01:18
up because there's skeletal devil sours in wow and all of the skeletal devil
1:01:23
devilsaurs from the game I would not have them as statues they'd literally be alive or in this case I'm dead I just
1:01:29
have them wandering around that that's for it's for me too I mean ultimately it's for me too but it would also be for my wife because she could then tame them
1:01:36
and then have them you just imagine her coming in grabbing a d a devil sword and then leaving I was like bring him back
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with his hat on it was hard to get that hat yeah that's my answer I am done all
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