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This week's podcast kicked off with the discussion that has been pinging around the World of Warcraft community this week: a GM cheating so a streamer could clear a M+23 dungeon on time. Though we all had Opinions on that one, we quickly forged ahead to happier topics, including the newly released launch date for patch 12.1 and season 2 of Midnight. That's right kids, it's time to grab your coat and move to the exits on season 1. We also issued a warning that spoilers for patch 12.1 are being datamined, even if in a slightly weird format that probably won't end up in the game. Then, we had the announcement of the BlizzCon digital bundles and a new Hearthstone Battlegrounds season to unwrap like a gift on Christmas morning.
And speaking of unflagging optimism, Cory was our guest host this week, so it was time for another Heroes of the Storm Hopium Corner.
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[music]
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Hello everybody and welcome to the
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Blizzard Watch. I don't know why I
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suddenly sound like this. I'm Matt. I'm
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hosting with me this week are my
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fantastic co-hosts. Uh going to
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introduce him first because he's
0:22
literally the person who manages to
0:24
believe when literally everybody else is
0:26
like looking at him going, "Please stop
0:28
believing." And he won't he won't stop
0:30
believing. He is the journey of Heroes
0:32
of the Storm. He is Corey. Hello, Corey.
0:35
>> Hello. It's going to come back, guys,
0:37
any day now. I swear.
0:39
>> Uh, with us besides Corey is Liz Harper,
0:41
the editor-inchief and person who always
0:44
tries to light Corey up in various
0:46
comments and ways to send [laughter] him
0:47
up to. So, Liz, hello.
0:50
>> Howdy.
0:51
>> Are you feeling rested after that half
0:53
an hour of me [laughter]
0:55
comic books?
0:56
>> Uh, no. No, because I I have to sit here
0:58
and stream and pay at least some amount
1:00
of attention to what's going on in case
1:02
I'm required.
1:03
>> You're always required. Uh, also with
1:05
us, another person who's always
1:07
required, Joe, who can argue with me
1:10
about whether or not the Miles Morales
1:12
got enough comics in his original run,
1:15
uh, Joe Perez.
1:16
>> Hi. Joe's actually probably the expert
1:19
on that, uh, more so than I am. I I
1:21
liked Miles, but I didn't read every
1:23
issue. So,
1:24
>> I Yeah, probably. But that's not what
1:26
we're here to talk about, is it?
1:28
>> No, it is not. We are here to talk about
1:29
various things, including good old World
1:32
of Warcraft. And um
1:34
>> World Warcraft.
1:36
>> I know it's strange. Uh we did spend a
1:38
lot of time not talking about it on the
1:40
pre-show, but that's how the pre-show
1:41
works.
1:42
>> Um but yeah, let's talk about this this
1:45
whole incredible deal that I heard about
1:48
last week when I was writing the queue,
1:50
and I I touched on it briefly just
1:52
because I I didn't know anything about
1:54
it. People were like, "This is
1:55
happening." I was like, "Oh." So, um,
1:58
basically, it seems that a a QA
2:01
developer who worked at Blizzard was
2:03
helping people kill raid bosses. So,
2:06
like it was a mythic. It was mythic plus
2:08
23. So, not raid bosses, dungeon bosses,
2:11
but at at M23 is a pretty high level for
2:14
mythics. And he was death touching uh
2:17
things so that they could get the kill
2:18
faster and move on. Um,
2:21
>> and now he's been fired, which
2:24
deserve so
2:27
he he abused his power and privilege and
2:29
as a result has paid the consequences of
2:31
that abuse.
2:32
>> I hear Liz. Uh go ahead, Liz.
2:34
>> I I mean uh the thing is it was logged.
2:38
It was posted to Warcraft logs
2:41
uh with with this information. It's
2:44
there's no way you're going to get away
2:47
with this. It's so nuts that
2:50
>> Yeah. But the the best
2:51
>> they even thought about this.
2:53
>> He didn't know he was being logged
2:54
because they the person logging was the
2:56
random pug tank that they picked up for
2:59
the week.
2:59
>> Yeah. For their for their
3:00
>> pugging they're pugging M23, which I
3:02
guess people tell me this happens all
3:03
the time. And I was like really? Uh I
3:06
did not know that. But the idea that you
3:08
know a pug tank is there and he's just
3:10
logging because he wants to see what he
3:12
does and get better at tanking. He
3:14
doesn't even know that they're doing
3:16
this. You know, he has no idea. No, the
3:19
pug tank is very much a precious flower
3:20
and is no part of the the sleeves of the
3:23
whole thing and should be applauded for
3:26
being a bear.
3:26
>> I mean, I don't care what I mean, he
3:29
could have been anything. He could have
3:30
been a monk. He could have been a a
3:31
demon hunter. He could have
3:33
>> No, no, no. If he was a demon hunter, he
3:34
can be, you know, sent out with the
3:36
trash with the rest of them.
3:38
>> As a bear, what what class he is, except
3:41
he was a warrior, then I'd be like, why
3:43
are you pugging, man? Um, but
3:45
regardless, I just feel like the whole
3:47
thing, it's on the one hand, I I feel
3:49
like cheating in a video game where none
3:51
of this is going to matter in a year
3:53
doesn't hurt me as badly as other
3:56
things. Like, I don't get tremendously
3:57
outraged about it.
3:58
>> Oh, Matt, it's so much worse than that.
4:00
>> It is worse than that. That's the thing.
4:02
>> It is worse. It's not that it doesn't
4:04
matter in a year. It's that it didn't
4:05
matter now. None of the players in that
4:07
dungeon were going to get any ranking
4:09
from this. This was not a make or break
4:11
for your season rank kind of situation.
4:13
And this was a 23 they just didn't want
4:15
to fail and redo
4:17
>> because they didn't want to lose their
4:18
their key basically.
4:20
>> No, they could have gotten back there.
4:21
They they were close enough to it that
4:23
they had the the power and the skill to
4:25
make it happen. They just
4:26
>> the whole thing just seems so someone
4:29
lost their job over it. This is just
4:30
ridiculous.
4:31
>> Well, at least the guy who lost his job
4:33
over it is the guy who was doing it.
4:35
>> Well, yeah.
4:36
>> Yeah.
4:37
>> Joe, I believe you do more Mythic Plus
4:40
than the rest of us. What do you think
4:41
about this? I think that it was probably
4:44
something that was inevitably going to
4:46
happen because if he did it once,
4:47
there's nothing saying he didn't do it
4:48
before. And I will say that everything
4:52
GMs or people that have access to the
4:55
game can do is logged. None of that
4:58
stuff is anonymous. So if he lost his
5:01
job over it, I guarantee you this isn't
5:03
the only time that they found an
5:04
instance of him doing something like
5:06
this.
5:08
Um, so because it's not just the optics
5:11
of it because they would we've seen
5:13
people make mistakes and we've seen them
5:16
like, okay, well, this person is going
5:18
to get moved or whatever the case is.
5:20
Um, but when something like this,
5:22
there's probably a history of them doing
5:25
this. Uh, and it bites. Like it is awful
5:29
to to like hear that this is happening
5:32
because then people who do keys and do
5:35
those mythic pluses and try to push them
5:37
as far as they go. Now suddenly
5:39
everybody's under scrutiny. if you time
5:42
a 23 and you know now everybody's going
5:46
to be looking at you like okay well
5:47
let's go through your logs with a fine
5:49
tooth comb and everybody's like I've
5:51
heard this in the community people are
5:53
worried maybe not extensively so but
5:56
there is a level of worry about well how
5:59
far do you push and you know how do you
6:03
how do you deal with the inevitable
6:05
scrutiny that's going to come just from
6:07
doing a good job you know at this point
6:09
because this is so very public and the
6:12
following.
6:12
>> Now, there was an official response from
6:13
Blizzard that said that this was a
6:15
one-time occurrence and that they
6:16
stringently monitor all these logs. So,
6:18
even if it hadn't been something that
6:20
got highlighted in the community, this
6:23
lone GM uh would have been caught and
6:26
would have faced sanctions. It's just
6:28
that because this one random pug did log
6:32
the event. Yeah, I'm going to I'm going
6:34
to go out on a limb and say I don't know
6:35
that that's necessarily true that they
6:37
would be found because it's auditing.
6:40
Auditing is not necessarily an automatic
6:43
thing. And
6:44
>> I mean it's what they log it, but it's
6:46
another thing to say that then someone
6:47
comes and looks at all the log. The logs
6:49
exist so that when news comes back, they
6:52
can go through and look at the log. It's
6:54
[snorts]
6:54
>> I mean I know that they have somewhat
6:56
some things they have are automated in
6:58
this regard. Not in terms of
6:59
>> well there's some automated things that
7:03
happen.
7:04
>> I'm sure I'm sure
7:05
>> you can't automate everything.
7:06
>> Yeah, I'm sure there's stuff that causes
7:08
flags for review and stuff like that,
7:10
but the kill command I don't think is
7:12
one of them. And the reason I say that
7:13
is because there have been several
7:14
instances throughout the history of my
7:17
career in WoW where I've had some random
7:20
occurrences and it happened going back
7:22
as far as vanilla. I'm not saying that
7:24
this is, you know, it happens
7:26
frequently, but when I was doing the uh
7:29
the hunter uh epic quest for the bow and
7:32
I had to go kill a demon, like I had to
7:34
go kill the four demons. I killed one of
7:36
the demons and the demon bugged out and
7:38
would not die. And so it was eternally
7:41
at one hit point. I had to put a ticket
7:43
in because it wouldn't die. It wouldn't
7:45
respawn. Nothing would happen for it.
7:47
and the GM came along, saw that, you
7:50
know, it had been down to one hit point
7:52
and just killed it. And this has
7:54
happened a couple other times with
7:56
random stuff in the game where like for
8:00
whatever reason a mob will be stuck in
8:02
this infinite like loop and can't be
8:04
reset and then they will have to go and
8:07
kill them. So, I don't know that that
8:08
would necessarily throw up a red flag,
8:10
but to what Matt's saying and what I'm
8:12
saying is that once it's reported, they
8:14
go back and check the logs. Now, as far
8:16
as I'm saying it's a one-time uh event,
8:20
again, that could just be PR because
8:23
they're not going to sit there and say,
8:24
"Yeah, they're not going to say, "This
8:25
person did it 8,000 times." And, you
8:27
know, because then that's going to erode
8:29
all confidence in uh GMs and their
8:33
support. Go ahead, Matt.
8:34
>> I will just point out that when I read
8:35
the article, the thing Blizzard says is
8:37
not that one guy did it one time. They
8:40
said it was limited to one person and
8:42
his activity. So he could have done it a
8:45
bunch of times. They didn't comment on
8:47
that. It was very very
8:49
>> nor can they for legal reasons.
8:51
>> Yeah, exactly. They don't they what if
8:53
this goes to any kind of legal action
8:56
and I'm not saying it will. I'm not
8:57
saying it will. I don't know. Uh that's
9:00
GM might sue. Blizzard might sue him. I
9:02
don't know. But if it does, the first
9:05
thing your lawyers are going to say is,
9:07
"And then you said what?"
9:09
>> Mhm. M like and a big publicly traded
9:11
corporation like the Microsoft umbrella
9:14
that that owns all these companies has
9:17
lawyers. Like the only place has scarier
9:20
lawyers than Microsoft is either Google
9:22
or Disney.
9:23
>> I want to know
9:25
>> Nintendo's lawyers aren't as scary.
9:27
They're just faster.
9:29
>> I also I will say this. I've been sued
9:31
by Marvel before they were owned by
9:33
Disney. I don't want to know what that
9:34
looks like after they're owned by
9:35
Disney. No thank you.
9:36
>> Yeah. No. No. Uh Disney is like
9:39
literally a kaiju rampaging through
9:42
places. Um, but regardless, the point
9:44
being, you know, nobody like there's
9:47
going to be stuff that happens that
9:49
you're not going to hear about even when
9:50
they're trying to be transparent because
9:52
they don't want people to feel like
9:53
they're not taking action. But they
9:56
literally cannot for legal reasons open
9:59
themselves up to that kind of liability
10:00
because that's bad for the share prices
10:03
and you're legally required to keep
10:06
those share prices as high as possible.
10:09
And there's a whole ton of that kind of
10:11
like back and forth on it. And I I
10:13
that's one of the reasons that I feel
10:14
like it's less important in terms of oh
10:16
game balance and people you know must
10:19
the sanctity of mythic plus progression
10:21
and it's more important for you know
10:23
people being involved that didn't want
10:27
to be like that tank who had no idea
10:29
this was happening and just logged it. I
10:32
mean he wasn't gonna if he'd been one of
10:34
the people in on it he wouldn't have
10:35
logged it. You know what I mean? It
10:37
wouldn't have gone to to like any other
10:39
off sites. That's the whole point of
10:41
committing like a, you know, cheating is
10:43
you don't then immediately put it out
10:45
publicly.
10:46
>> Regardless, it's it's really messed up.
10:49
It's messed up that they felt they
10:50
needed to do it. Go ahead.
10:51
>> And I do want to point out that like
10:52
that tank took a lot of heat from a lot
10:55
of misguided people in the community
10:57
>> who went after like started going after
11:00
him.
11:01
>> Uh, you know, why did you log it? Why
11:03
did you report it? And he wasn't even
11:04
the one that reported it. It was
11:06
literally
11:07
>> he just had an auto logger. It was just
11:08
part of his
11:10
mod pack
11:11
>> and somebody was looking at it because
11:12
they were looking at because and I know
11:14
that we do this too when we're looking
11:16
at like progression and stuff like that.
11:17
We'll look at people at similar eye
11:19
level in composition to like see what
11:22
spells were used and how often and stuff
11:24
like that to see what you know what
11:25
advantages or or disadvantages like we
11:28
can get. And if you just notice
11:30
something weird like that which is
11:31
that's what happened where it's like oh
11:33
this guy was at this much health and
11:34
then dead immediately. That seems weird.
11:37
Uh and like a lot of health. It wasn't
11:40
like he was killed from 90% to zero. It
11:42
was just a teeny bit near the end.
11:45
>> It doesn't just
11:48
>> Well, they were definitely going to miss
11:50
the timer. Like it was
11:52
>> this was in order to get them through it
11:55
on time, but it wasn't like they just
11:58
went walked up to a boss with 100%
12:00
health and the the GM was sitting in the
12:01
background with a big hammer ready to
12:03
hit it.
12:05
It also it also highlights sort of the
12:07
danger of uh parasocial relationship I
12:11
guess would be the best way to put it
12:12
and [clears throat] here we are talking
12:13
about this and you know [laughter]
12:16
>> but there's no just because you work at
12:19
a game company or you have an important
12:21
position or a position with power does
12:23
not make you immune to it and that was
12:25
also part of it too like the GM did it
12:28
as helping out one of their favorite
12:30
streamers essentially and
12:32
>> yeah that that in and of itself is just
12:35
dangerous. And I feel bad for the GM
12:37
because like a little bit I'm not I'm
12:40
not excusing the actions, but it's like
12:42
to to have that sort of parasocial
12:44
relationship and then have that fed upon
12:46
so much that you feel like you're you're
12:48
doing this for a friend, that's
12:51
dangerous. And yeah, it's just a stark
12:54
reminder to, you know, for all of us,
12:57
make, you know, parasocial
12:59
relationships, keep them in check a
13:00
little bit. like [laughter] take a step
13:02
back and take a look at them. Uh cuz
13:04
>> it's like the people who who donate a
13:06
100 gift subs to a streamer and the
13:08
streamer just goes, "Hey, thanks."
13:10
>> And and I've said and I've said this
13:12
before and this is for other content
13:13
creators and everything out there. We
13:15
have a responsibility to be cognizant of
13:17
that as well, right? Like there's
13:19
there's been times in my past where I've
13:21
had people uh not from this podcast but
13:23
other podcasts um you know like find out
13:26
where I live and you know think I'm like
13:29
their best friend uh or I've had people
13:33
at the one Blizzcon come up to me and
13:36
did not have a picture of me beforehand
13:37
found out who I was to throw a drink in
13:40
my face because I was the worst thing to
13:42
happen to shaman. So like it is
13:44
something that it is it is also
13:46
partially our responsibility to uh
13:49
understand the power of that parasocial
13:51
relation.
13:51
>> Yeah. And it's really bad because you
13:53
weren't even the worst thing that
13:54
happened to shamans. I was
13:55
>> well I was a third I was a third in line
13:57
for that. Don't forget there was there
13:58
was
13:59
>> Oh yeah. I was number two. Um
14:02
>> I still think that was the day that that
14:03
was the day that Sacko came up to me and
14:04
said, "Congratulations, you've made it
14:05
as a writer." [laughter]
14:07
>> That that was really that was really the
14:09
bar over Wow. Insider. You know, when
14:12
you became the worst thing on the site,
14:14
that was like, you've made it. Someone
14:16
cares enough about your writing to think
14:19
you are the worst.
14:21
>> Yep. And that happened so many times for
14:23
me that I'm a little sad. Uh, but we
14:26
should move on because we've talked
14:27
about this quite a bit. And so, the next
14:29
thing to talk about is we now have the
14:30
official launch. I think we've had, have
14:32
[laughter] we had the official launch
14:33
before?
14:34
>> This was just announced.
14:35
>> So, we're going to have WoW patch 2.1.
14:39
They on August 11th.
14:40
>> 12.1. Oh, did I not say 12?
14:42
>> You said 2.1.
14:42
>> 2.1 is a different patch.
14:44
>> That's a long time. [laughter]
14:46
>> Whoa, it's 2007. Yikes. Um,
14:49
>> I mean, it is burning for say time
14:50
blocking.
14:51
>> Yeah, 12.1. Uh, that's going to be on
14:53
August 11th. And then on August 18th,
14:56
one week later, we're going to see the
14:57
launch of Midnight Season 2. Um, because
15:00
we're going to get a new raid and new,
15:02
you know, heroic mythics to run to
15:04
heroic. Uh, a whole bunch of stuff is
15:06
coming and that's going to be
15:08
>> that's pretty much woow for the next
15:10
couple of weeks at least. I mean, from
15:12
the from the 11th on, you're going to
15:13
get at least a month or so of content
15:15
and people doing that content before
15:17
then, you know, we start worrying about
15:19
yet more stuff.
15:20
>> Big patch. It's a big patch.
15:22
>> Yeah. I mean, talk about that.
15:24
>> We should go ahead and throw up some
15:26
stuff. [snorts]
15:27
>> We should talk about the dates because
15:29
the dates are brand new. Um, so yeah,
15:32
August 11th, we're going to get the
15:34
heroic and mythic dungeon difficulties
15:36
for the new dungeon rotation, which is
15:38
Alter Fangs, brand new dungeon, Murder
15:40
Road, Den of Narak, Blinding Veil, Void
15:43
Scar Arena, King's Rest, Temple of Seth,
15:46
Sethus, and the Ruby Life Pools. Ruby
15:49
Life Pools feels like a we really
15:51
strange addition to me, but maybe that's
15:52
maybe that's just me.
15:54
>> Couldn't find one more troll dungeon to
15:56
put in.
15:56
>> I actually really like it as an addition
15:58
because it's a fun dungeon to run in
15:59
Mythic, I think. I mean, it just seems
16:02
it seems like they do so much of this
16:03
thematically and that just seems odd
16:06
thematically. So,
16:09
it's fine. It's fine. We are getting a
16:11
new layer boss in the tidebound grotto.
16:14
Well, I say new layer boss, but this is
16:16
our first layer boss.
16:18
>> Technically, it's like a world boss that
16:19
is now a layer boss.
16:21
>> It's a world boss that is instanced.
16:23
>> Yeah.
16:24
>> Um, the tidebound grotto will be
16:26
available in normal, heroic, and mythic
16:28
difficulties. How is this different from
16:30
a one boss raid? No,
16:32
>> it may not be tremendously different
16:34
from from a one boss raid, but if since
16:35
it's we know it's a world boss, world
16:37
bosses only drop one level of gear.
16:40
>> Well, except it's except it's available
16:42
on three difficulties. So, I
16:44
>> That's my point. It's that maybe now you
16:46
can get better gear if you do the higher
16:48
difficulty, which you couldn't do when
16:49
it's an open world thing.
16:50
>> Yeah. At which point it's like, okay,
16:52
this is a one boss raid, but we'll we'll
16:54
see. We'll see. I I like the idea of
16:57
instancing them and it'll probably help
16:59
with lag issues and some the kinds of
17:02
issues you can have with having an openw
17:04
world huge boss encounter. Um, so I
17:08
think that's a positive. We're going to
17:09
get Prey season 2 with normal and hard
17:11
modes only. We'll get Delve season 2.
17:14
You can play all tiers of delves but no
17:17
bountiful delves yet. The next week on
17:19
August 18th, season 2 officially starts.
17:22
Mythic plus dungeons launch. The Great
17:25
Vault will start feeding you season 2
17:27
gear, which is significantly higher eye
17:28
level. We have the new Venomous Abyss
17:32
Raid in normal heroic mythic and
17:34
raidfinder wing 1, Delves season 2 with
17:38
bountiful delves and keys to unlock
17:40
those bountiful delves and Prey season 2
17:43
nightmare mode and curse of the aisle
17:46
which I think is something new on the
17:48
coiled isle which is our new zone. Then
17:51
on August 25th, a week later, we will
17:53
get Venomous Abyss, Raidfinder Wing 2,
17:55
and Story Mode. So everyone, even if you
17:58
don't want to deal with raids or LFR,
18:00
you can do Venomous Abyss on story mode.
18:03
And the two weeks after that, we'll get
18:05
Raid Winger, raid finder, wing three,
18:09
and wing four. Just everything they roll
18:12
out week at a time. I'm so glad they've
18:14
gone to this week at a time schedule and
18:16
they're sticking to it because it used
18:18
to take forever for Raidfinder to roll
18:21
out.
18:21
>> Yeah, I'm also very happy that you said
18:24
uh Winger
18:25
>> and not not Rage Finger.
18:27
>> I I was I was Yeah,
18:29
>> avoid the Raid Finger at all costs,
18:31
guys. But yeah, that's there's a lot of
18:33
stuff coming and it will be coming at
18:35
least for most people uh up till August
18:38
18th and then we you know if you do
18:40
raidfinder you got some more Raidfinder
18:41
coming every week
18:43
>> and and there's just going to be a ton
18:44
of world content. But yeah, these are
18:46
all these are all the dates and the
18:47
things that are rolling out on these
18:49
dates. I mean, I'm looking forward to a
18:50
new raid and having a new raid to
18:52
explore. I'm not thrilled about a zone
18:56
full of snakes,
18:57
>> but
18:58
>> why is it got to be snakes? Why is it
19:00
got to be snakes? But it's
19:02
>> temple.
19:03
I mean, that seems interesting to tie
19:05
that into the all the snakes that we're
19:07
getting in other places. It's just
19:09
interesting in terms of
19:10
>> they also tweaked the last boss in
19:12
Temple of Sethis to fit to be a little
19:14
bit smoother for mythic plus runs.
19:16
>> Ah, that's good. That that fight did
19:19
make me cry, mate.
19:20
>> It was very annoying.
19:22
>> Yeah, it was it was hard to tag.
19:25
>> It was But regardless, yeah, that
19:26
there's a lot of stuff happening there,
19:28
so that's pretty cool. Um, we should
19:30
also mention the Burning Crusade
19:31
Classic. Uh, the anniversary edition
19:33
phase 3 is going to come out in August
19:35
as well on August 27th and it's going to
19:38
start with Black Temple and Mount Hyel
19:41
or is they just, you know, are those
19:43
eventuals phase three?
19:45
>> I'm not sure. Blizzard has not announced
19:48
a specific schedule for raid releases.
19:50
Usually they release raids like 2 days
19:54
after the patch, but they didn't they
19:57
haven't listed specific dates. So
19:59
>> the page that I have says that the BCC
20:01
anniversary edition gets Black Temple on
20:02
August.
20:03
>> The phase the the new phase is live and
20:05
they haven't said that the open.
20:08
>> It's much like a it's much like a like a
20:09
live patch or or like a retail patch,
20:11
right? Where the patch releases and then
20:14
there's a couple days or at least a
20:15
little bit of a lag time before the the
20:16
raid
20:17
>> typically.
20:19
>> But We don't have exact dates there. So,
20:22
>> there's apparently also like a final
20:24
surge of decor jewels. Um, which I I
20:27
think that's not that's not related to
20:30
the weekly event. Um,
20:31
>> no, this is this is more not a this is
20:33
not like a weekly event type thing. This
20:35
is more just this is announcing that
20:37
like all of this stuff is is happening
20:39
in like a quick succession, right? So
20:42
like we the the the we know that the uh
20:45
decor duel decor duels are uh coming to
20:49
an end and that the basically that's
20:52
going to be happening uh around the same
20:54
time. Uh so it's you know letting people
20:57
know that you have a little bit of time
20:59
to get through and do that but that's
21:01
going to be essentially done and and
21:03
over very very soon. Uh, and it's the
21:06
same warning that they give for the
21:08
season 2 rewards, uh, or sorry, season 1
21:11
rewards, uh, before season 2 comes out
21:14
because season 2 is on the goal for for,
21:17
uh, retail where, you know, you have the
21:20
the the midnight raids, the mythic plus
21:23
uh, dungeon season, uh, all the
21:26
different seasonal achievements that are
21:27
available right now, uh, which includes
21:29
stuff like uh, the Prey because Prey
21:32
season 2 will be coming out uh,
21:34
relatively
21:36
A lot of a lot of the rewards that are
21:39
specific to season one are going away.
21:41
>> Yeah.
21:43
>> This is your last chance for a number of
21:45
things.
21:45
>> Yeah.
21:46
>> I'd like to see the decor duels come
21:48
back on a rotation like time walking
21:50
does. Like every four months or 3
21:53
months, they do a week or two weeks of
21:55
decor. And then for those two weeks, the
21:58
people that want to play it and want to
21:59
have fun and playing prop hunt can get
22:01
their their fill. And then after that it
22:04
goes away again and if you want the
22:05
stuff you'll have to wait another 3
22:06
months. I
22:07
>> mean it it always Blizzard didn't
22:10
originally I think we talked about this
22:12
last week but it's kind of a surprise
22:13
it's ending. It feels like an event that
22:15
would work really well as just a
22:16
recurring
22:17
>> Yeah. something especially as they keep
22:19
adding stuff and
22:21
>> I think focusing more now which is like
22:25
>> kind of an aside thing but we're getting
22:27
to the point where they're focusing more
22:28
on adding more stuff to housing making
22:31
it more robust which is great. Um, but
22:35
now that they know that they can do
22:36
decor or decor duels, getting housing
22:40
sustainable and where it needs to be
22:41
first to to make sure it it meets
22:43
expectations and then going back and
22:46
maybe doing seasons of decor duel or
22:49
decor duels. I think that's fine, right?
22:51
Like I think it I agree with you. I
22:53
think as as a you know spontaneous event
22:56
that's just not permanently there, I
22:58
think it's fine. Sorry, I have opinions
22:59
on on Decor DS. [laughter]
23:02
I I think it just fits in the same mold
23:04
as the the Plunderstorm stuff where
23:07
they've come up with this fun event
23:09
>> and it only works if it's a limited time
23:12
thing because you need a a certain
23:14
amount of people all playing it together
23:16
>> almost all at once.
23:17
>> I almost wish it was like its own
23:19
separate game mode though, like
23:20
Plunderm.
23:21
>> Well, yeah, but then it's it's still
23:22
going to go away. So, if they just found
23:24
a way to tie it in the game better and
23:26
then you could play it once every four
23:27
months. So, you could play it three
23:29
times a year for a week, I think it
23:31
would work fine. Like, you could you
23:32
could get your fill and you could earn
23:34
points towards whatever rewards are
23:36
there and then if you miss it, hey,
23:37
it'll be back in 4 months and try again.
23:40
You know, it which is exactly what this
23:43
kind of like rotational weekly event
23:45
should be a thing that you're not you're
23:48
never going to miss it entirely because
23:49
it will come back. But at the same time,
23:52
it's it needs the the press of bodies to
23:56
make it uh work properly.
23:58
>> And and I think part of the problem
23:59
though too, and part of my like I think
24:01
my visceral reaction when it first
24:02
released is that they never said it was
24:04
a limited time thing and now it is. So
24:08
now it's like
24:08
>> maybe they didn't know it was going to
24:10
be like,
24:11
>> yeah, but you got to know you're the one
24:14
making the game.
24:16
>> But they're not but they're not the ones
24:17
but they're not the ones making the
24:18
decision. And if a producer did not tell
24:21
them it was going to be a limited time
24:22
thing, well,
24:24
>> I mean, for all we know, they've got
24:26
they put it out there, they put it in
24:27
the game, then somebody from, you know,
24:29
higher, you know, somebody who's closer
24:31
to the money and less close to the
24:33
actual business of making games looked
24:36
at it and said, "This isn't, you know,
24:37
where's our our, you know, we're not
24:39
getting enough eyes on this. Enough
24:40
people aren't doing it all at once. It's
24:42
not generating continuous, you know,
24:45
interest. So, yeah, get rid of it." That
24:48
might be what happened. We don't know.
24:49
Uh
24:50
>> yeah. And but like if it's a thing that
24:52
every four months you could earn these
24:54
decor things and you could earn the the
24:56
weapon transmog or whatever it is, then
24:58
yeah, you would have the interest in it
25:00
for a week and
25:01
>> or for that matter. I mean also it might
25:03
be something that they bring back when
25:04
we're in the doldrums between
25:07
expansions.
25:08
>> You know
25:10
much content. Yeah, we haven't. That's
25:12
that's true. We haven't. Uh but at this
25:13
point I think we're going to move on
25:14
briefly to mention that there's been
25:16
some data min cinematic scripts and
25:18
we're not going to give you spoilers so
25:19
don't worry. Uh but I do want to point
25:22
out that we've we've been on this this
25:24
rodeo before. We've had cinematic
25:26
spoilers data min and everybody saw them
25:29
and then they didn't actually enter the
25:31
game. Uh that happened. One that always
25:33
comes to mind is is back in I think it
25:35
was Cataclysm, Ramath was revealed to be
25:38
a traitor
25:39
and you know he went off and he he
25:42
betrayed the Horde and he he joined up
25:44
and then the game got out and that
25:46
didn't happen. Ramath was like what? I'm
25:48
not betraying any why is everybody
25:49
looking at me? Uh yeah, so take that in
25:53
mind when you see spoilers for the end
25:55
of the upcoming raid which you will.
25:57
They're out there. There's cinematics
25:59
for it and everything. just is,
26:01
>> you know, be careful. I'm I'm not saying
26:04
No, it's all fully agree that it's out
26:07
there.
26:08
>> Yeah, it's it's more of a warning,
26:09
right? Like I put this in here
26:10
specifically because it's become a very
26:12
big talking point. Uh other content
26:14
creators are talking about it and
26:15
they're kind of going a lot deeper into
26:17
it than I think they really should. Um,
26:19
but it's one of those things where it's
26:21
a reminder that you are when you look at
26:24
data mind anything, you are seeing
26:26
things under the hood that was not meant
26:29
for player eyes. And sometimes that
26:31
includes stage direction, right? And
26:35
this has happened multiple times where
26:36
you've gotten bits of dialogue or bits
26:39
of scripting that were put into the like
26:43
the code for the developers who are
26:45
going to be working on this. So, as
26:46
they're going through the code and
26:48
looking at it, uh, which is
26:50
coincidentally tangentially related to
26:52
the game that Liz has been streaming. We
26:53
can talk about that later. Um, but when
26:57
you're looking in code, you can have
26:58
directions in there that don't actually
27:01
show in the game, but are literally
27:04
meant for the people making the stuff.
27:06
So, like it'll say so and you know, and
27:09
and XNPC looks at somebody like they
27:12
grew a third head out of their arm,
27:14
right? like or something along those
27:15
lines. And it's not meant for something
27:17
that actually happened in game. It's
27:19
something giving direction to the person
27:21
making the cinematic or using the engine
27:23
to make that cinematic on what it should
27:26
look like to give them a rough idea. And
27:29
it's often exaggerated. So, anytime you
27:32
go out of your way to look at data mind
27:34
anything, and it doesn't matter what it
27:35
is, but data mind anything that isn't
27:38
official patch notes released by the
27:40
company making the game, take it with a
27:42
grain of salt and understand that you
27:44
are not looking at anything that is
27:46
finalized and that this is something in
27:48
flight. Be very careful. You it's your
27:51
your mileage on anything you get in in
27:53
data mining anything is it's going to
27:57
vary just by its very nature. So yeah, I
28:00
I just wanted to add that in there
28:01
because again, it's going to be
28:02
something that's going to be making the
28:03
rounds and people are probably going to
28:04
hear about it a lot. Uh so be prepared.
28:07
>> Certainly.
28:08
>> Yeah.
28:09
>> I mean, I've been avoiding spoilers like
28:11
The Plague lately, and I get them.
28:13
>> I mean, I to be fair, I do also work on
28:16
a Laura podcast, so I tend to also go
28:18
out looking for lore at the same time.
28:20
So sometimes it's just the Janus headed
28:22
dichotomy of my existence. But
28:24
nevertheless, they're out there. And
28:26
also without spoiling anything, without
28:28
telling people any spoilers, some of the
28:30
notes, the [snorts] the cinematic notes
28:32
here are Leadin turns and looks turns
28:35
and looks at her with her eyes wide.
28:37
Dang girl, did you really say that?
28:39
>> Obviously, not going to make it into
28:41
game. [laughter]
28:43
>> This is like note to self.
28:45
>> Yes, exactly. Leadron's not going to go,
28:48
"Dang, girl." [laughter]
28:50
>> I have literally left.
28:51
>> Have you seen them? Like I say, "Dang,
28:53
girl." I I have left notes in code that
28:56
I have written that that literally says,
28:58
"Why can't I get this GD thing to work
29:00
the way I want it to? Why have you
29:02
forsaken me code gods and accidentally
29:04
left it into it when I reviewing it?"
29:06
And then having somebody in QA go,
29:09
that's funny. You should take that out.
29:12
[laughter]
29:13
But so yeah, that that is to be
29:15
considered. Uh again, I will point out a
29:17
lot of stuff that has appeared in no in
29:19
data mining information over the years
29:21
that did not happen for one reason or
29:23
another. Sometimes it just didn't
29:26
happen. Sometimes people reacted
29:28
negatively and they took it out.
29:30
Sometimes it it felt like they just, you
29:33
know, they they decided to go somewhere
29:34
else with it. Um one example is for a
29:37
long time the raids in in Wrath of the
29:40
Lich King were going to start they
29:41
weren't going to start with Nex Ramis.
29:43
Next wasn't going to be a raid. They had
29:45
two other locations that were going to
29:47
be raid dungeons. Um, one of them's I
29:50
want to say Gundra and the other is the
29:53
highest dungeon at that first spot in
29:56
the Howling Fjord. And I can never
29:58
remember its name now because I haven't
29:59
been there in years. But those two were
30:01
going to be the raid. And then, like I
30:04
said, halfway through they were like,
30:05
"Nope, we're going to put Nexamus in
30:07
instead. It makes sense to use Namas
30:09
again." So that happened. And as a
30:11
result, stuff that was data mined didn't
30:14
happen. And that happens because, you
30:17
know, this is a game that's being
30:18
developed whilst we're heading towards
30:21
the next content pack. Sometimes things
30:22
have to be caught. Sometimes things have
30:24
to be changed. Sometimes things are
30:26
changed just because they think it'll be
30:27
better. So, we covered all that. I think
30:29
we're good to move on to the BlizzCon
30:31
bundles. Um, they're going to have
30:33
digital stuff this time. I've seen the
30:35
one for Diablo. I haven't seen any of
30:39
the other ones. So, um, Liz or Joe, Joe
30:43
got to talk, so we'll say Liz, could you
30:45
go over this?
30:46
>> I mean, uh, yeah, these are the typical
30:48
bundles that Blizzard always puts out
30:51
there, cool digital goodies that are
30:54
celebrating Blizzcon. You know, you get
30:56
them for free with a Blizzcon ticket,
30:57
and call that free. Or you can buy them
31:00
if you do not have a Blizzcon ticket and
31:03
get stuff, all kinds of stuff. And we
31:06
do, we do love stuff, right? We like
31:09
stuff. I do like
31:11
>> Do you like Zalot and do you like
31:13
Murlocs? Because boy is there a bundle
31:15
for you.
31:15
>> I I gotta say I am not super excited by
31:19
these. They're doing it a little
31:21
differently this year in that you can
31:24
buy a specific game bundle.
31:27
>> You can buy a bundle for your favorite
31:28
game. I think all of those are kind of
31:30
bad values. They aren't great as far if
31:33
you're looking for the cash value of
31:35
your video game property. me. They're
31:38
kind of nah, but um there's also a big
31:43
$50 bundle of all of the things which
31:48
which has all of the things.
31:49
>> It's it's it's a good deal if you want a
31:53
couple of things. So, and also if you
31:55
buy the big bundle
31:56
>> collection,
31:57
>> the ultimate collection. Yes, if you buy
31:59
the big bundle, you also get some extra
32:02
things including Oh god, I can't even
32:05
say this. a a mount that is zalot as a
32:10
>> bunny rabbit.
32:11
>> Yes. I I I Wow, that was just hard to
32:15
say. That was that was tough.
32:17
>> I I would I would die happy if they got
32:19
Claudia Christian to come in and do
32:21
dialogue for the rabbit. [laughter]
32:24
>> Um so the
32:25
>> Oh, the rabbit needs to whisper to you.
32:27
Oh my god, it needs to absolutely
32:28
whisper to you.
32:29
>> That would make the $50 worth it right
32:31
there.
32:32
>> Yeah, it could
32:35
some cats.
32:36
>> The funny thing is that Rabbitath
32:38
actually already exists in Hearthstone
32:40
as an one of those super expensive
32:43
in-game pets. And so she but she's made
32:46
the leap. She's made the leap from
32:48
Hearthstone into World of Warcraft. And
32:50
>> I get it cuz rabbits jump. Ah,
32:53
[laughter]
32:56
>> I understand that, right? Or he says,
32:58
[laughter]
33:01
>> all I know is I have it in my head that
33:03
she's sitting there whispering to you,
33:04
but you will get me the Timothy hay.
33:06
[laughter]
33:07
>> Feed it to me, mortal.
33:09
>> Listen to the grinding of my teeth and
33:11
know I am displeased. That's the cutest
33:13
we've ever seen.
33:14
>> Oh, boy. Um,
33:16
>> I'm sorry, Liz. Continue, please.
33:18
>> Uh, okay. Uh, so Overwatch gets a May
33:23
skin of a Lich King skin. Lich Queen may
33:28
of course
33:29
>> and some associated cosmetics.
33:32
>> Diablo gets a very cool lion mount that
33:37
has special armor that has like a blue
33:40
glowing mane. It looks very cool. and
33:43
more importantly a ghost otter pet
33:46
because
33:48
>> I don't get what this has to do with
33:49
with Diablo, but
33:51
>> I don't know what either of these things
33:53
have to do with anything, but I, you
33:55
know, I kind of want a ghost otter. Who
33:58
wouldn't want a ghost otter to follow
34:00
them around and pick up loot for them?
34:02
>> What gets me about Diablo pets is some
34:04
of them are horrible and nightmarish,
34:05
and then you got ones like this that are
34:06
ridiculously cute.
34:07
>> Yeah. And there there are a lot of
34:08
puppies also.
34:10
>> Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
34:10
>> Uh there's
34:11
>> I don't know.
34:12
>> Diablo Immortal gets
34:14
>> Diablo Immortal is the one that's
34:16
actually got some like real genuine cash
34:19
value because it does include things
34:21
like uh uh legendary crests which
34:25
empower your elder rifts to get you a
34:27
guaranteed chance of getting those
34:29
legendary gems which of course Diablo
34:31
Immortal has a lot of microtransactions.
34:34
Uh then we have Hearthstone. Hearthstone
34:37
has a signature card of uh Thalinos,
34:42
Blood Mage Thalinos, which is Blood Mage
34:45
Thalinos is the little black dress of
34:47
Hearthstone cards. This is just this is
34:49
the card you can put in any deck and it
34:52
will improve that deck. It doesn't
34:54
matter. You can just put Thallinos in
34:56
any deck and it's great. And it has uh
34:59
the signature cards are these great all
35:02
card art things. That's really cool. And
35:04
it comes with five packs and a special
35:06
card back. And I think I think Blizzard
35:10
values their signature cards a little
35:12
highly, but it does look cool. Um, and
35:16
yes, then we get these extra bonuses for
35:19
buying the entire bundle which includes
35:22
of course Mera Cazella.
35:25
>> Yeah, see Merket
35:27
>> again. And Claudia Christian has to come
35:29
back, but this time she has to do the,
35:30
you know,
35:33
it's Claudia Christian doing it like
35:35
trying to be like sound that that kind
35:37
of ironic, detached, and also somewhat
35:40
trying to seduce you to the power of
35:41
evil voice, but going
35:43
>> it's it's just terrifying. I think all
35:45
of these Zolotath cosmetics terrify me a
35:49
little bit. Uh so yes, if you buy the
35:51
whole bundle, you get Merketath Murloc
35:54
pet in World of Warcraft. Uh Lich King
35:57
May, you also get a player icon and name
36:00
card. And in Diablo I get in Indigo's
36:05
light and Indigo's master mount
36:07
trophies, which are kind of blue and
36:09
glowy. I don't know.
36:11
>> Okay, so the amount
36:13
>> the here's the problem I have. the
36:15
ultimate Blizzcon bundle which combines
36:18
everything and you get the little
36:19
extras. Merketath great reward like a a
36:23
battle pet with Merurloc Zealot.
36:26
Fantastic. It it can be used. I assume
36:29
it can pet battle although that's not a
36:31
given these days anymore.
36:32
>> That's not a given.
36:34
>> But it is a a standout premium kind of
36:38
reward. everything else in that bundle,
36:40
the ultimate Blizzcon bundle. Not quite
36:43
the same level of standout reward.
36:45
>> It's little stuff. It's So, you got an
36:48
icon and and for for Overwatch, you've
36:50
got a portrait frame for Diablo
36:52
Immortal. You've got a couple mount
36:53
trophies for Diablo I. You've got some
36:55
card packs, some more card packs for
36:57
Hearthstone. They're all kind of like,
36:59
okay, here's an extra thing. And then
37:02
you have a Zalot Murloc. I could I just
37:06
without a Zelat Murloc?
37:08
>> But Zelot Merurlock is the only reason
37:10
why I would want the the big bundle.
37:13
Everything else is so small and
37:15
incidental that it doesn't matter if I
37:16
have it or not because an icon in Diablo
37:19
Immortal is useless and an icon and
37:21
mount trophies in Diablo I are useless.
37:24
>> Mount and Diablo I aren't regarded.
37:26
>> Mounts mounts are great. mount trophies
37:29
small and sure they can complete the
37:32
look qu in quotes but I'm not jonesing
37:36
for that mount trophy. I've got 50 more
37:38
I could choose from.
37:39
>> Yeah, I do admit that that's not the one
37:41
for me.
37:41
>> The World of Warcraft one also a housing
37:44
decor item with us and a transmog set
37:46
with some golden wings and a golden
37:49
helmet which I'm pretty sure that's a
37:51
color of gold that will not match
37:52
anything I owned transmog with.
37:54
>> Every color gold is always not going to
37:56
match. They use a different color of
37:58
gold every single time
37:59
>> specifically to torment me. Um, if you
38:02
want to buy any of these bundles
38:03
individually, they are 20 most of them
38:06
are $29.99.
38:08
A couple of them are $25.99
38:11
and and uh the big big bundle, the
38:15
ultimate bundle is $49.99
38:18
or whatever that equates to in your if
38:21
you play enough of these. If you're
38:23
interested in more than one of these,
38:25
you just buy the big bundle. That's it.
38:27
That's it. Uh and I I'm pretty sure
38:29
that's what Blizzard wants you to do.
38:31
That's that's where they're aiming
38:33
there. So,
38:34
>> for comparison, the BlizzCon Ultimate
38:36
Collection is $62 Canadian and each
38:39
individual bundle is $37 Canadian
38:42
>> or except for the Diablo Immortal and
38:44
Hearthstone which are $31.
38:46
>> Oh, it's basically they just convert up.
38:48
>> Yeah.
38:48
>> Yeah.
38:49
>> But, um Go ahead, Liz. One one
38:52
interesting thing that is not in here
38:54
that I do want to point out is in the
38:56
past these digital bundles have included
38:59
access to live stream Blizzcon. That is
39:03
not here and it is not mentioned
39:05
anywhere. So we don't bring that up.
39:07
>> Yeah. Yeah.
39:10
>> Yeah. Does that just mean that it's a
39:12
given at this point and they're not
39:14
gatekeeping any kind of live streaming
39:16
from the the general public because
39:17
we're
39:18
>> we're six years past COVID and everyone
39:20
can stream things online reliably.
39:23
>> I have wondered about that but they
39:24
haven't said either way.
39:26
>> Joe,
39:26
>> what do you think, Joe?
39:28
>> So, yeah, I'm I'm really curious about
39:29
that because that being absent, I think
39:32
is I don't want to say suspect verbiage,
39:37
but it is something to take note of. Uh
39:40
because again in the past the bundle has
39:42
been streaming plus get these digital
39:44
things free or as part of your bundle
39:46
because you're paying for streaming and
39:49
then it's not here. And I don't think
39:52
it's a case of uh you just assume you're
39:56
going to get it. I I don't think that's
39:58
it because up until this point every
40:02
other time they very specifically said
40:04
it. So, I'm curious if we're going to
40:06
see closer to Blizzcon either a separate
40:10
streaming cost that you have to get on
40:13
top of this or if like Corey is saying,
40:16
they're just going to say it's free to
40:17
stream for everybody, which
40:19
>> yeah, we don't know.
40:20
>> I don't and and maybe this is me being I
40:23
I don't know. Like I I I I have a hard
40:26
time trusting that when it comes to this
40:28
>> because as they shown us in the past,
40:30
you pay for streaming BlizzCon. That's
40:34
just how it is.
40:35
>> Yeah, of course.
40:35
>> I I want to air on the side of optimism
40:38
and say that they're just going to
40:39
>> Well, yeah. You also think Heroes of the
40:40
Storm is coming back tomorrow. So, like
40:42
I mean this is that's just on brand for
40:45
you.
40:45
>> It can't be tomorrow because that would
40:47
be a Wednesday and that makes no sense
40:48
in the Blizzard release timeline. That's
40:50
crazy. Joe, come on.
40:51
>> Oh, they're it's going to come back
40:53
tonight during this podcast.
40:55
>> Yeah, exactly. We'll finish recording
40:58
this and then it will come back. We've
41:00
also seen recent BlizzCons have been
41:02
Blizzcon line and those have been free
41:05
to stream. So that's just the question.
41:07
Is Blizzard going with the philosophy
41:08
that okay, this is just another Blizzcon
41:11
line and we're streaming it so as many
41:13
people as possible can see it or are we
41:15
still holding out for what are you going
41:18
to charge us for this Microsoft? I don't
41:21
know. I don't know.
41:22
>> Yeah. Okay. Uh, I think though we should
41:26
move on to talk a little bit about the
41:27
new Hearthstone Battlegrounds season 14
41:30
because
41:32
>> I you know get written down here. So
41:35
>> what can you tell us? give us a give us
41:37
an outline of what's going on
41:39
battlegrounds this
41:40
>> I I do love Hearthstone Battlegrounds
41:41
and one of the things I'm really happy
41:44
about here is they aren't they're making
41:46
big changes but they aren't removing a
41:49
lot because one of the big things about
41:51
this current battleground season is you
41:53
have trinkets and there are two points
41:56
in the game where you pick up trinkets
41:59
and those are items that
42:02
can really change up your gameplay or
42:04
power up what you're already doing. And
42:07
that's interesting because other if you
42:09
don't have some kind of gameplay
42:10
modifiers, Hearthstone can get a little
42:14
Hearstone Battlegrounds can get a little
42:15
stale and you know, every game can feel
42:17
the same. But being able to go in and
42:19
buy these trinkets give you a little
42:21
twist and there are going to be some new
42:22
ones this season. So that's going to
42:26
that always shakes things up and makes
42:28
things feel different from game to game
42:30
because you don't always get the same
42:31
trinkets on offer and it's just
42:35
everything's a little different every
42:36
time you play. But there's also a new
42:39
gameplay system called dark gifts which
42:42
starting on turn three, you can use the
42:44
dark gift button to spend three gold and
42:47
discover a minion with a dark gift. Each
42:50
of the minions offered will be paired
42:51
with a unique dark gift and those are
42:54
going to be just unique buffs and we'll
42:58
kind of see how that works. It's sort of
43:00
the same thing as the trinkets are that
43:04
it's going to change up your gameplay.
43:05
It's going to change how you approach
43:07
the game. It may change the kind of
43:09
minions you wind up purchasing. And this
43:12
is also interesting when you get
43:13
trinkets. You just get them. You just
43:16
get them on a specific turn. you pay for
43:17
them, but they everyone gets them on the
43:19
same and this means do you do you buy it
43:22
on turn three as soon as it's available?
43:24
Do you dump your gold into that instead
43:26
of buying a new minion or spells or
43:27
whatever? Or do you hold off and wait
43:30
and build up your board a little? So
43:33
that adds another interesting twist. And
43:36
one of my my really my favorite thing
43:38
about Hearthstone Battlegrounds is that
43:40
it is one of the few game modes out
43:43
there that is completely totally free.
43:45
You can just download Hearthstone and
43:47
play Battlegrounds. If you don't pay,
43:49
you have a few less options than people
43:52
who do. When you fire up a game, you
43:54
have the option between two heroes
43:57
randomly. If you pay every season, you
44:00
get the option of getting four, but you
44:02
don't need four. You can just go with a
44:04
two, pick the one you like best, and
44:06
play. And I I just love it. I love that
44:08
you can just go in and play this game
44:10
and not pay anything if you don't want
44:13
to. You can also buy cosmetics. There's
44:15
battle pass if you want it. There's a
44:17
new battle pass every season, but you
44:19
don't have to. So, this makes it just
44:20
such an easy game mode to pick up and
44:24
play. And this is like this this is my
44:27
favorite casual game to just pick up
44:30
when I want to do something, but I don't
44:31
have the brain power to do something
44:34
significant, which is often.
44:37
>> Okay. Um, thank you.
44:39
I think at this point, however, we we
44:41
get to turn now to his dark majesty, the
44:44
the prince of storms, Corey. Uh, tell us
44:50
the new patch rolled that rolled out on
44:52
July 20th that you were not here for, so
44:55
we're asking you about it now. Talk to
44:56
us, Corey. Tell us this.
44:59
>> Someone tell me what's what is this a
45:01
patch for?
45:02
>> Oh, that that really does sound like
45:04
you're setting me up as like a Ouija
45:05
board here. But Heroes of the Storm is
45:07
obviously not dead because it just had a
45:09
patch. So I don't know what you're
45:11
talking about.
45:12
>> I didn't I wasn't setting up as as a
45:15
fair Ouija board. I'm setting you up as
45:17
like the thing possessed by a dark, you
45:20
know, soul jar that has erupted into
45:23
you, filled you with Heroes of Storm. So
45:27
go ahead, Heroes of the Storm. Tell us
45:28
about the
45:28
>> Heroes of Storm. Well, first off, uh,
45:31
for the next month and change until, I
45:34
believe it's the end of September,
45:36
anyone can visit the Blizzcon shop and
45:39
get the first of the new skins released
45:42
uh, since they traded the game over to
45:44
the Heroes uh, to the classic team, the
45:47
Thraw cell-shaded kind of Mad Maxy skin
45:51
for free. You you say you want the skin,
45:54
you get it. Uh, it's part of their
45:56
BlizzCon celebration. So, it's not just
45:58
the mainline games, Hearthstone Diablo
46:01
and World of Warcraft that are getting
46:02
things. Heroes of the Storm gets a free
46:04
skin for anyone who wants it. And also,
46:07
Starcraft 2 gets a 14-day experience
46:10
booster for people who want that. So,
46:11
Starcraft and Heroes of the Storm are
46:13
both still kind of remembered by the
46:15
company. They're not like super
46:17
>> is the only game that they've kicked to
46:19
the side and eat with a shovel. I got
46:21
you anyway. Anyways, Heroes of the
46:24
Storm, yes, did have another live patch
46:25
that went live last week, uh, the 20th.
46:29
It's It's great, you know. Um, it's
46:32
probably [clears throat] my favorite
46:33
patch in a while. Uh, first up, they did
46:35
include another new skin, which is kind
46:37
of a Jetet Radio cell-shaded
46:40
look for Lucio. He's got a really cool
46:43
red suit, and it's very Jetset Radio.
46:46
So, if that game means anything to you,
46:49
you can get a version of it in game. And
46:51
it even has a little bit of custom
46:52
animation to it. So it it's one of the
46:55
more um involved skins they've put out
46:58
recently.
46:58
>> Yeah. It kind of looks a little bit like
47:00
um like a transformer in the face area.
47:03
>> Yeah. And if you look at his arm, he's
47:05
kind of got a cannon on his arm like
47:06
Mega Man. So there's a few different um
47:10
inspirations behind this look is the
47:12
word I'm going to look for is the word
47:13
I'm going to use here. But it's great.
47:15
Uh it's a it's a cool looking skin. And
47:17
if you like playing Lucio, and who
47:19
doesn't? He's fun and fast. Uh you're
47:21
you're in luck. He's got this cool
47:23
cell-shaded skin and it probably fits in
47:25
really nicely with all the other cell
47:27
shaded skins uh that they've released
47:29
like the tune Gildan and the
47:30
aforementioned thr that looks kind of
47:32
like a Mad Maxi guy. So, we also got a
47:36
home screen to go along with this. And
47:37
it was an event that looks like had
47:40
Heroes of Storm been in full production
47:41
this entire time, we would have got this
47:43
fun multiversal like cell-shaded video
47:47
game collaboration, but that they've
47:49
been releasing skins for, but it must
47:51
have been nearly complete whenever they
47:53
put the game into maintenance mode. And
47:55
I I'm sad for what could have been. But
47:58
the reason this this patch is my
48:00
favorite patch that has come out is that
48:02
in amongst all of their heroes updates,
48:05
Abther got some nice little reworks. His
48:08
um his trait where he lets out a little
48:10
Zerg Locust every once in a while that
48:12
goes down the lane got some love. It
48:14
changed how it works. Uh they shuffled
48:16
some talents around uh and made it a
48:18
little bit stronger overall for an
48:20
Abtherur to go out there and be annoying
48:23
and in your face. And if he takes risks,
48:25
he has a better reward payoff, which for
48:28
the ultimate weak, he's just a worm kind
48:31
of character is such a cool risk versus
48:34
reward setup and really solidifies why
48:37
he was such a great addition to the
48:38
heroes to the MOA franchise as a
48:41
character concept that the the more risk
48:43
you take, the better you can perform and
48:45
the better you can uh contribute to your
48:47
team. But he has a new level four talent
48:50
that is so funny that the as soon as I
48:52
saw it, I laughed and I laughed and I
48:54
tried to get Liz to talk about it for
48:56
weeks and weeks now because the patch
48:57
has been on the PTR, but she she was
48:59
insistent that only I could come on and
49:01
talk about it with any kind of verve and
49:03
gusto that this is my thing. I I know
49:06
and I appreciate that. But at level
49:08
four, Abther can now choose the talent
49:10
slapther. And that's right, you heard me
49:12
right. Slappther. Um, so if an abur goes
49:17
out there into the world and uses his
49:20
basic attack, which was until now just
49:22
this dinky little he's going to hit you
49:24
with his weak little arm and do
49:26
negligible damage. Now it does 350%
49:30
bonus damage and will stun enemies and
49:33
disable structures for one and a half
49:34
seconds. Uh, and it has a 6second cool
49:37
down for a target against structures and
49:39
heroes. So you can't just slap someone
49:40
to death. But it's so funny. It's it's
49:43
what made this game sing and what st
49:46
what made it stand out is that they
49:48
would take this meme concept of like the
49:50
videos of people putting in their best
49:52
Heroes of the Storm clips of two
49:53
avithers fighting it out somewhere and
49:55
they're just slapping each other with
49:56
their weak little noodle arms.
49:58
>> You're saying the Dan Habiki of Heroes
50:00
of the Storm.
50:02
>> Yeah, he's a he's a viable slapathon
50:04
now. You could go out there and you
50:06
could contribute to a team fight by
50:07
going out and slapping a hero at the
50:09
exact right moment and he does a little
50:10
bit of damage. Or you could go out there
50:12
and you could slap a for or keep and you
50:14
could shut it down for a second and a
50:15
half and that maybe is what separates
50:17
the difference between you taking that
50:19
thing and not hilarious. And I and I
50:21
love that they did that. The patch also
50:23
buffed uh Alexrazza and it buffed her
50:26
dragon form and it gave her a new kind
50:29
of reworked the talents around her
50:31
dragon form which was her trait. And uh
50:34
so you can if you do it properly, you
50:36
can spend more time in dragon form and
50:38
you can heal more and you can be a big
50:39
dragon which everyone loves which is why
50:40
Deathwing is so popular. And it buffed
50:43
uh Ragnaros and it made his uh trait
50:47
where he can take over a downed keep or
50:50
fort and it made that stronger. And I'm
50:53
not going to read through everything.
50:55
There's a lot of fun patch notes and
50:56
it's a lot of like numbers and there's
50:58
new stuff. But it just shows again every
51:01
time I come on I feel like I'm talking
51:02
about Here's a Storm because obviously I
51:04
love it and I'm one of the few holding
51:06
up the torch for it still. There are
51:08
dozens of us that [laughter]
51:10
>> at this point I'm willing to say there's
51:11
probably a few hundred of you
51:13
>> at least a few hundred. There must be
51:15
there's still tournaments happening.
51:18
>> There's still
51:20
up I I grab them off the streets as fast
51:22
as I can but no there's still more. So
51:23
yeah, absolutely. As of this moment, I
51:26
can see one of the streamers I follow on
51:27
Twitch streaming to 67 people playing
51:30
Heroes of the Storm.
51:31
>> So, there are people that want to watch
51:33
Heroes of the Storm still. Uh, you know,
51:36
they're they're making sure that the
51:37
game they're presenting is the best most
51:40
balanced version they can think of. And
51:42
once again, they have they've released a
51:45
suite of changes that take more than a
51:48
little effort to implement. Yeah, I was
51:50
just gonna say in a serious note here,
51:52
not not my usual teasing of you, the
51:54
difference between this game's
51:56
maintenance mode and the maintenance
51:57
modes for Starcraft or uh Diablo II is
52:01
pretty stark.
52:02
>> Yeah,
52:03
>> Diablo II hasn't gotten anything other
52:06
than yet another season in quite some
52:08
time. Uh Starcraft just got something,
52:10
but they have
52:11
>> it got a patch. It got a It got a major
52:13
patch um that changed a lot of balance,
52:16
but it was just a balance patch. didn't
52:18
change. It didn't add anything.
52:19
>> This one is still getting stuff as it
52:21
was released that was in the pipeline.
52:23
It's still it still is putting out more
52:25
stuff than the other one. So, it is
52:26
interesting. But at this point, um I am
52:29
going to move us on because we got a
52:30
little bit more we got to do. Um first
52:32
up, Joe had volunteered. I don't know
52:34
how you feel about this, Liz, but Joe
52:35
has volunteered to do the site news. Do
52:37
you mind if I just tag it over to him?
52:39
>> No, do it. [laughter]
52:41
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two channels set aside. We have the Q
54:53
and Podcast question channel open for
54:54
everybody. Same rules apply. And if you
54:57
are a Patreon subscriber, uh, we have
54:59
the Patreon Q and podcast questions
55:01
channel set aside specifically for you.
55:03
And we always look there first for those
55:05
questions, comments, or show ideas as a
55:08
way of saying saying thank you for
55:09
helping us keep the light. There we go,
55:11
friends. I'm going to kick it back over
55:12
to I'm I'm not going to give it to Matt.
55:14
I'm going to give it to Liz because I
55:15
want Liz to talk about this because this
55:17
has been so much fun. Um, Liz, talk
55:20
about what you streamed just yesterday
55:22
because that was fantastic.
55:23
>> Uh, yeah. I've been doing a Thursday
55:26
night live stream. Uh, Thursdays at
55:28
8:00, but I'm also fitting in some
55:30
whenever I have time because otherwise
55:32
it would take forever, play a single
55:34
game by just streaming for an hour or
55:36
two on Thursdays. Um, but I'm going to
55:39
be there every Thursday night at 8:00
55:41
Eastern to uh I'm I'm trying to play
55:44
through some indie games, see how see
55:46
what everyone thinks. if if everyone is
55:48
interested. I'm so I'm kind of doing a
55:50
trial run to see, okay, can I actually
55:53
commit to doing this? And two, are
55:55
people actually interested in watching
55:57
this? So, I'm I'm going to try this out
55:59
for a while. I'm going to play at least
56:00
a couple of games start to finish on
56:03
stream and they're going to be going to
56:05
YouTube after that. So, even if you
56:07
can't catch us on stream, it'll be on
56:09
YouTube later. And right now, I'm
56:11
playing a game called Desktop Explorer.
56:14
It's Yeah. Yeah. You hear Joe over
56:17
there. It's a surreal puzzle game in
56:20
which you are your uncle has gifted you
56:23
his ill and secrets and a game called
56:27
Desktop Explorer which seems bizarrely
56:31
related to real life things that you
56:34
figure out as you puzzle through it. Uh,
56:38
and it's full of little the whole thing
56:41
is packaged in a kind of Windows 95
56:44
interface and many
56:46
>> Oh, I think it's more like Windows 3.1.
56:48
This is older than I'm I'm I'm
56:50
oscillating back and forth between 95
56:52
and 3.1. I mean, it does it does have
56:54
the start menu, which wasn't that the
56:57
big one of the big 95 things. It has the
56:59
start [clears throat] menu.
57:00
>> It was, but it's like all the Windows
57:01
like it is it is it is nostalgic if you
57:04
are a computer nerd.
57:05
>> It Yes. If you are a particular kind of
57:08
nerd, yes, this hits you in some weird
57:11
ways and it it has a lot of puzzles
57:14
about figuring out the password for the
57:16
next folder. A lot of them involve,
57:19
okay, I'm going to look at the source
57:21
code of this document. Oh, I'm going to
57:24
look at the information. I'm going to
57:26
look at the properties of this file to
57:29
see how big is it. you know, you're
57:32
picking up little pieces of data through
57:36
real life computer skills that people of
57:39
a certain age may have those skills
57:42
inherently. People not of a certain age
57:44
may have to figure some of them out, but
57:46
it it makes all these sort of unique,
57:48
interesting puzzles. And not everything
57:50
is like that. There are a lot of visual
57:54
puzzles there. It's just very unusual
57:56
because the puzzles are all pretty maybe
57:58
not pretty different, but there's a lot
58:00
of different types of puzzles. I will
58:02
give one warning. If you are color blind
58:05
or have differentiating colors, I have
58:07
heard
58:08
>> that this can be a difficult game
58:10
because there are some puzzles that are
58:12
really based around color
58:14
differentiation and uh seeing things
58:18
after putting like a color filter on
58:20
them. So that can that's definitely a
58:22
challenge point for the game, but I have
58:25
had so much fun. I've streamed it for
58:26
maybe four hours total now. It's
58:28
probably about a 10ish hour game. Uh
58:32
it's just been it's just been tons of
58:34
fun. I'm still trying to decide what
58:35
I'll stream after this, but I' I've
58:37
still got a good amount of this to go.
58:39
And I think Joe is going to join me on
58:41
Thursday when I'm when I'm next doing
58:43
this.
58:44
>> I am. I I crashed Liz's stream uh the
58:47
last time and it was the most mecoded
58:51
section of this game that could ever
58:52
possibly be done because like it
58:55
involved Egyptian mythology and
58:56
computers. And my partner and I joke
58:59
because there's this thing where like in
59:02
our age group in like if you're in your
59:04
40s or like early 40s, late 30s, you
59:08
probably will understand this. There
59:10
were two very distinct type of kids
59:11
growing up. ones that were really into
59:13
Greek mythology and ones that were
59:15
really into Egyptian mythology. And I
59:17
was an Egyptian mythology kid. Uh so
59:19
like as Liz was going through this, I
59:21
was trying so hard not to just backseat
59:23
game, but also like it's pattern
59:26
recognition and like it was
59:28
>> I was stmming so hard watching like it
59:32
>> being Norse mythology.
59:34
>> Yeah.
59:34
>> I I still I still don't understand one
59:36
of those puzzles.
59:37
>> Which one?
59:39
>> Well, I I don't I don't want to give any
59:42
You I'm not going to I'm not going to
59:43
give an answer, but you can give a
59:44
general like thing of that cuz I'm
59:45
curious which puzzle.
59:46
>> Uh it's it's the very first one you
59:48
caught me on with the sixes.
59:49
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I
59:52
we'll talk about that later.
59:53
>> I kind of see what you were talking
59:54
about, but I don't uh but yeah, I know
59:56
Anna is wanting to play this as well,
59:58
and so I don't [clears throat]
59:59
say what the answer was. Yes. Yes,
1:00:01
indeed. So, I but it's it's a really fun
1:00:05
game. If you are interested in games,
1:00:08
weird, creepy, puzzle games, are hearing
1:00:11
me squeak in terror occasionally, go and
1:00:14
watch the stream, catch us on Twitch on
1:00:17
Thursday nights, or uh watch it on
1:00:20
YouTube. And uh yeah. Yeah, it's been
1:00:23
fun so far.
1:00:24
>> That everybody likes to listen to you
1:00:26
make squeaky fear noises, Liz. I mean,
1:00:28
it's it's not it's not
1:00:30
>> it's there's the occasional squeaky
1:00:33
terrified noise and then there's a lot
1:00:35
of h
1:00:36
>> also I'm going to throw this out there
1:00:38
for our listeners because we were
1:00:39
talking about this a little bit too
1:00:41
>> uh with the idea of Liz not always doing
1:00:44
these alone also looking for two-player
1:00:46
games that are that are capable of
1:00:49
running well on a Mac as well as PC. So,
1:00:52
our listeners out there, if you know of
1:00:54
a game that that is might be fun or fit
1:00:57
our wheelhouse, I feel like you've you
1:00:59
understand our personalities at least a
1:01:00
little bit at this point. Um, toss them
1:01:03
our way. You can hit us up on the
1:01:04
podcast at blizzardwatch.com or throw it
1:01:06
in in Discord. Uh, send some suggestions
1:01:08
at us and we can see if there's like
1:01:09
some multiplayer games that Liz and I
1:01:11
can play together and uh I can, you
1:01:14
know, cause her to have a heart attack
1:01:16
or something. I'm sure
1:01:17
>> I will point out
1:01:18
>> that's not a great suggestion about a
1:01:19
game that we could all play together.
1:01:21
Well, here's here's one you guys.
1:01:24
>> Mist Mist is good for Max. It works
1:01:27
really well.
1:01:28
>> So,
1:01:30
>> Mist.
1:01:32
>> Yeah.
1:01:32
>> Yeah.
1:01:33
>> But have you heard of this little game
1:01:34
called Heroes of the Storm? It's from a
1:01:36
small indie company. I'm sure you've
1:01:38
>> maybe you've heard of it. Maybe not.
1:01:40
But, uh I think it'd be really fun to
1:01:42
play all that together like in the good
1:01:44
old days. [laughter]
1:01:45
>> All right. One of the but one of the
1:01:47
things one of the things I really do
1:01:49
want to highlight here is some of the
1:01:50
indie games out there because most of
1:01:52
the time we're talking about these huge
1:01:54
massive games made by massive AAA
1:01:56
companies and there's so much exciting
1:02:00
stuff going on out there in indie games.
1:02:02
Those are the most interesting, weird,
1:02:06
creative games are all in the indie
1:02:09
space and it's ar it's it's super easy
1:02:12
to miss them. It's super easy to miss
1:02:14
these games. So, that's kind of my line
1:02:16
of thought. I might play I might try
1:02:19
some bigger games and it depends on what
1:02:21
everyone likes watching and everyone
1:02:22
likes doing. I mean, I got to play games
1:02:24
I enjoy because otherwise it's going to
1:02:26
be
1:02:27
>> miserable. But the Duck Detective game
1:02:30
yet?
1:02:31
>> I have not I have not gotten the new
1:02:33
one. The new one um
1:02:34
>> coming out soon, right?
1:02:36
>> It's already out. It's already out, but
1:02:38
I haven't I haven't picked it up yet
1:02:39
because there the other problem with
1:02:41
indie games, there are too many of them
1:02:43
that are too great.
1:02:45
>> There are so many great indie games out
1:02:47
here that uh are worth playing and I
1:02:51
think it's it's worth highlighting.
1:02:53
>> Make at some point, guys, we should make
1:02:55
a a thing on Patreon where if they hit a
1:02:57
certain like goal, I will stream me
1:03:00
playing Planet Dinosaur, which is a
1:03:02
dinosaur parks them game. Oh, I didn't
1:03:04
even get to tell Matt about the uh the
1:03:06
the Soulsite game that I found
1:03:08
specifically for him.
1:03:10
>> Oh, the Dino Blade one.
1:03:11
>> Yeah.
1:03:12
>> Yeah, I've seen I've seen that. They've
1:03:13
seen At this point, however, guys, we we
1:03:16
are getting pretty low on time. So, I am
1:03:19
going to say that one of these two
1:03:20
questions. Uh we're probably going to
1:03:22
talk about this weekend, right? Because
1:03:24
we're doing uh a tavern watch this
1:03:26
weekend. Am I correct as I'm speaking?
1:03:29
>> Yes. We need to figure out a time.
1:03:31
>> Okay. Well, I think that's a good point.
1:03:33
That's That's not an onstream
1:03:34
discussion.
1:03:35
>> Yeah. [laughter] Regardless, uh that I
1:03:38
think we can move on. And uh whilst I'm
1:03:41
really excited about God of War Lafi, I
1:03:42
don't I don't I want to go eat. Um quite
1:03:45
frankly, I'm very hungry. So, I'm going
1:03:47
to say thanks to everybody. Uh thank you
1:03:49
to Corey for being here with us this
1:03:51
week to make us again raise our hopes
1:03:54
that so Blizzard can expertly dash them.
1:03:57
Um
1:03:57
>> any day now. I swear it's going to come.
1:04:00
Thank you to Liz for getting him to do
1:04:02
it because otherwise he doesn't he
1:04:03
doesn't come around unless Liz forces
1:04:05
him.
1:04:05
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no,
1:04:07
no.
1:04:08
>> Cy out out of everyone, Corey is the
1:04:10
most likely to proactively volunteer.
1:04:13
So, everyone else I have to bully into
1:04:15
showing up. But
1:04:17
>> if if I'm if I have nothing else, like
1:04:19
if I if there's nothing real world going
1:04:21
on, I will be here with bells on. I I
1:04:23
love being here.
1:04:25
>> I don't bels.
1:04:27
[laughter]
1:04:28
finally an excuse to wear belts. And
1:04:30
finally, thank you to Joe, not just for
1:04:33
forcing Liz to talk about, you know, her
1:04:35
streaming and give people ideas for new
1:04:37
games, but also because quite frankly, I
1:04:41
I had forgotten that Egyptian mythology
1:04:43
took a big spike in the 80s and 90s.
1:04:45
>> Yeah.
1:04:46
>> Like they even had that they had that
1:04:48
that cartoon where they the Egyptian
1:04:51
gods showed up in San Francisco for some
1:04:53
reason. It was like a mummies show. Do
1:04:55
you remember that one? Mummies Alive, I
1:04:57
think. Mummies Alive. Oh my god. Yeah.
1:04:59
Yeah.
1:05:00
>> I remember Mummies Alive. It was kind of
1:05:02
like um
1:05:02
>> it was like Thunderhawks but
1:05:04
>> Yeah,
1:05:05
>> with mummies.
1:05:06
>> Or the Mighty Ducks cartoon but with
1:05:08
mummies.
1:05:09
>> I don't know if I agree on that one, but
1:05:11
[laughter]
1:05:11
if nothing else, Mighty Ducks with
1:05:13
Mummies is certainly something I could
1:05:14
imagine a video game doing. Yeah, thank
1:05:17
you to all of them. Thank you to
1:05:19
everyone out here listening and
1:05:20
supporting the site. And thank you to
1:05:23
Ancient Egypt. Take care, everyone.
1:05:25
We'll be back next week. [laughter]
1:05:26
Bye everybody.
1:05:27
>> Bye
1:05:28
>> bye.
1:05:35
>> [music]
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